Eno hammock single vs doublewhile a pad sleeve or double-layer can help hold a pad in place, they aren’t necessary, nor are they perfect at doing it. as i said in my first post here, i wasn’t sure my hammock was a cure for my chronic insomnia, and while it definitely helped dramatically increase the time i was “sleeping”, it turns out the quality of sleep i was getting wasn’t good. hang the hammock so that “once occupied” the head end of the hammock is around 16″ lower than the foot end, and by end i mean the end of the fabric, not the attachment point on the tree itself. major functional changes to our hammock design that you’re missing out on – some aesthetic changes and quality improvements here and there but nothing crazy. david – glad to hear you’re loving the hammock so far. if you’re the writing type, i’d love to have you do some guest posts about your experience switching from a bed to a hammock – let me know if you’re interested! we’ve got some great new accessories as you’ve seen and we’ll also be introducing a new hammock size in the coming weeks – it’s more compact than the single. it’s of course one of those things that is much easier to experience than to explain, but what you’ll notice right away is that when you hang your hammock correctly the center of the hammock tends to be the tightest section while the sides remain loose (the exact opposite of what happens when you stretch the hammock tight). it or not, the natural curve of the hammock is crucial to getting the flat, zero pressure point surface that makes hammocks such a healthy way to relax, meditate or sleep. following are some pictures showing how a trek light hammock looks and functions when it’s pulled tight:The first picture is our single hammock while the next two are actually our double hammock. cassandra – the answer to that is definitely yes, you can have two people both lying at an angle across the hammock to create an ideal sleeping surface. my treklight double set up in my haus in switzerland. i am on disability because of the discs and how they effect the nerves to my legs, i tend to have to use about 6 to 10 pillows each night to be able to pile so i can find a position i can sleep in where it doesnt bother my back and i will have a decent chance at being capable of even getting out of bed and standing without assistance, after reading several of your posts i am wondering if a hammock might be able to relieve pressure enough to make a difference and help improve functionality as well as maybe decrease pain levels, i know laying on a flat surface is extremely painful and causes worse pressure on the nerves… i wish there were a way i could test out laying in a hammock. but, after starting to write this chapter i realized that what i wanted to say about the single vs. they tend to stay put better in the hammock than air pads but they seem to buckle and poke more than air pads do as well. it comes to adverse weather you also have the added benefit of being off the ground – many times i’ve been warm and dry in my hammock during a rain storm watching water puddling up or flowing beneath me. focuses much of his article on the insulation options for double- or single-layer hammocks. werner’s recent post on choosing between a single- or double-layer hammock delivers some strong points about double-layer hammocks:The two layers form a pocket that can be used to hold a foam or an inflatable sleeping pad. my question is this, “at 6’4″, will there be enough room for me to lie angled in the hammock (in order to lie flatter) without touching the tarp, or does touching the tarp even matter during a rain? the double hammock you talk about in the posts only supports up to 400 pounds and, alas, between the two of us we exceed that weight. that’s typically around 18 inches off the ground, but at 6′ tall you may find it easy to get in and out of a slightly higher seat – the hammock hang calculator includes a field for chair height so you can experiment to see what works for you. comfort—while any hammock is subjectively “comfortable,” some folks who want to go lighter with their gear often pick thinner fabrics that stretch. but, what you’ll read in this post (and the entire series) is advice based on my years of experience sleeping in a hammock, learning about the history of the hammock and talking to literally thousands of people from around the world about their hammock experiences.’ve always heard that it is the extra stitching that made a double-layer hammock stronger and more weight bearing and it is less about multiple layers of fabric. is an average number though that gets tossed around in the hammock world and that’s 101″ (a little over 8ft). i’ve tried to sleep in the hammock something like 3 months. pads are somewhat unruly under your torso and placing them inside the double layer generally makes them easier to sleep on, but even with the double layer, pads will still be somewhat uncomfortable as they will still bend and buckle and poke and feel too narrow in an end-gathered style of hammock (like the blackbird or xlc) and so the most comfortable option by far is an underquilt if you can afford one. one of the best ways to use a pad in a hammock is to just put it inside your sleeping bag. naturally, i was looking at those “flat” style hammocks thinking they would suite me the best. you’ll still likely want a top blanket to keep warm, but you can always easily remove that if you get too warm – the underquilt style means that you don’t have to worry about putting a blanket underneath you in the hammock and wrestle with it as you move around in the night. if you have a tough first night as a couple, don’t give up – adjust the hammock if necessary, try some different sleeping positions together and you should still be able to enjoy the benefits of sleeping in a hammock with your husband by your side. a side note and just general information to other users who are considering getting a hammock… there have been many instances where i was just über tired. really helped me out, just had one sorta quick question:Im looking to purchase a collapsible hammock stand for my apartment soon, and i was trying to look up different hammock angles with the trek light double hammock i am purchasing and a decent stand that will last.
Grand Trunk Double Parachute Nylon Hammockthe issue you are trying to avoid here is mainly if you are hanging a rr that has a spindrift sock already installed on it, in this case it is possible to over-stretch and damage the spindrift from inserting the poles and stretching the hammock out to much, even if you immediately loosen everything back to normal before getting in you may have already stretched the spindrift out enough during setup to cause damage (you’ll know you have done this if any of the grommets on the spindrift come loose). you can’t sleep on your side in a hammock? the bb/xlc is designed to be laid in “off-center” so that your head is very close to the head end of the hammock while your feet are alot farther away from the foot end. question, the answer is that it probably boils down to the current sleeping habits of you and your hammock partner. stands are great when you want to use your hammock indoors or out and don’t have any other options to hang it from. may be able to find some cheaper hammock stands out there if you search around – many will be compatible, but without testing them with our hammocks we can’t confirm that they’ll be a proper fit so just make sure it has a good return policy if you run into an issue. the comfort of the hammock is still awesome, once i settle in. a road trip right now and just fell in love with the hammock i got for camping along the way. (i know i don’t need the double for myself but i often have friends over)., thanks for all the articles on using a hammock for sleeping! the first picture in the post showing the hammock hanging in a bedroom looks a bit shy of the 101″, but the customer loves it so it all boils down to what works for you. sleeping in a hammock require a pillow, or is the elevation from the curve enough to support your head? a simple test can be done once you are in the hammock, if the ridgeline seems like it is guitar-string tight (see blackbird setup video to see me doing this test) then the hammock is probably set too tight and you may want to loosen the suspension some if you can. my husband and i are about to buy a canal boat to live on with our small children and it occurred to us that hammocks would be a great way for us all to sleep on the boat, i found this article doing my research about whether it’s a practical idea. using the webbing/buckle suspension, make sure that the buckles aren’t turned sideways, which can sometimes happen if you hang the hammock without ever adjusting one end (buckles can be turned sideways in the stuffsac and may stay this way if you don’t make any adjustments to correct it), be sure they are aligned properly before using the hammock. a double hammock really able to fit two people comfortably for a nights sleep? read this post after putting up a hammock in my bedroom last saturday. but, the hammock had existed, not as a recreational backyard gadget but as a fully functional bed, for hundreds of years before the spreader bar was added. there, i have a couple questions and hoping you can give a recommendation for a trek light hammock setup. have an idea: let’s call the ‘hammock angle’ the “10 o’clock” position. i’m currently looking at la siesta – brazilian organic double hammock copa furia roja by la siesta on amazon. the tight frame of the hammock can even make some feel claustrophobic, a feeling you should never have to worry about in a hammock. with about the same weight capacity) if they plan on getting an underquilt eventually as pads can be used in a single layer hammock if needed. now that i understand hammocks, i’ve solved one large problem. there’s a good possibility we’ll have a triple hammock at some point down the road, but at this point the double appears to be the perfect size for sleeping in so we haven’t produced larger options yet. when the hammock was introduced to european culture, the curve of the hammock was considered unacceptable and they did what was necessary to make the hammock appear as flat as possible (at the sacrifice of both stability and portability). but the construction of a double-layer hammock will use the same amount of stitching as a single-layer hammock. you use hammock as a ground-shelter, always use a ground-cloth underneath to protect the hammock body from abrasion. the article above (and the rest of the series) goes into depth on the specifics, but as long as you accomplish those three things you should easily be able to sleep in a hammock and get a great night’s sleep pain-free. the reason i’ve spent so much of this post telling you what happens when you pull your hammock really tight and why you should hang it loose is because you’re going to need to use the width of the hammock to your advantage to execute the hammock angle. well, ever since i got mine it i thought it was the double, when i bought it in denver the salesman convinced me to get the double as opposed to the single. want to hang up a hammock in my room but im not sure the best way to hang it up.. so single layer vs double layer has as much effect on hammock weight and weight capacity as fabric type does.
! the banana sleeping shape issue is what kept me from being able to spend a longer time in hammocks so far, so i’m very curious how my life will change with this newfound wisdom and guidance. this keeps the pad in place even better than a double-layer hammock because the pad always moves where you do. i’ve been searching for a way to save space in my new apt i’ll be getting, and i’m not even sure how i thought of it, but hammocks popped into my head, and i immediately thought, “yeah, my back is not going to appreciate that., blackbird xlc, traveler hammocks:The following describes a detailed setup method that should result in maximum comfort (vs simply hanging between 2 trees and getting inside). after decades of intuitively yearning to sleep in a hammock, i found the tlg double and all the great reviews and posts and found affirmation that it’s safe and comfy to sleep in a hammock, so now i’m awaiting deliveries of my tlg double & vivere universal stand and am excited to try the whole thing out. investing in an under quilt or a double-layer hammock shouldn’t be a barrier to hammock camping.: sleeping in a hammock: your complete guide to going from hammock fear to hammock love(). if you’re working with a tighter space don’t forget that our compact hammock is also a great solution for narrower areas (it brings that minimum distance down to around 7./everything else, hammock 101, hammock health, tips and tricks/the hammock angle: how to relax (and sleep) comfortably in a hammock, even if you’re a side sleeper. received an email about hammock camping 101 and imagine my surprise when i read your whole blog, only to find out that “you” reside in the same wonderful city, boulder, as i do. learned i’ve been hanging my tlg hammocks too tightly! man, i never knew there was so much science behind hanging a hammock! without even applying the hammock angle trick you’re about to learn (no, that’s not it in the first picture), i think you’ll immediately find that any time you spend in the hammock is much more comfortable, liberating and relaxing – all thanks to the looseness of the material itself. but to be clear, that lack of quality had nothing to do with my hammock. we have land in new mexico with lots of trees and i think one of your hammocks would work beautifully there. adding a double layer of light fabric reduces the overall stretch, increases the comfort, and still keeps the pack weight lower than other options.[this blog post is part of trek light gear’s sleeping in a hammock series. claire – i’m not aware of any specific hammocks that i would recommend for sleeping that advertise to be stronger than the 400lb rating unfortunately. generally you’ll want it setup so that when you lay in the above referenced spot that you are basically level/horizontal from hips to shoulders, if your upper body seems too inclined or declined adjust the height of one end of the hammock or the other to correct this (normally just raise/lower the strap on the tree if you’re suspension angles seem like they are already correct). bridge-style camping hammocks, like the warbonnet ridgerunner shown here, include a pad sleeve that is an ideal match for a sleeping pad. warbonnet blackbird hammocks can be ordered with either a single or double layer depending on user preference, which is usually due to the increased weight capacity of the double-layer versions. for example when one end of the hammock is set lower than the other and the hammock is alot closer to one tree… rather than being equally spaced between the trees. but to be clear, that lack of quality had nothing to do with my hammock. the hammock should conform to your body and be quite comfortable to lie on no matter how skinny you are! the double hammock and cpap, insomnia seems to be (for now at least) out of my life, and regular, nightly, real sleep is becoming a welcome habit. knowing the exact hammock you’re using it’s difficult to say whether that’s causing the issue, but you should definitely be able to fall asleep in a mayan style hammock, so the style alone isn’t likely the culprit. the hammock appears to be just wide enough for one (skinny) person to lie straight up and down in the hammock. basically wondering if i could put a hammock in the back of my cargo van to use when i’m traveling. sleeping in a giant curve can’t be good, so did all of these early hammock users sleep horribly every night? one of the biggest mistakes you can make is to try to pull your hammock as tight as possible in an attempt to make it flat. you have pretty successfully taken away every qualm i had about getting a hammock, i’ll be for sure ordering a double from you in the near future. the bb/xlc has 2 elastic lines on the side of the hammock, the rr does not. double layer ridgerunner is also appropriate but you’re getting close to the upper size limit of the ridgerunner and may find it too narrow.
under quilts are very popular with veteran hammock campers, but even the long-time hammock veterans started off with using sleeping pads. this is a complaint i’ve never heard with our hammocks so i’m not sure i can speak to the problem you’re having. i’m sure this conversation will help others as it appears to be the biggest problem with ‘bed replacement’ hammock sleeping. if you did it correctly, you’re now lying almost completely flat in a curved hammock. there’s no universal answer if you’re having trouble getting out of the hammock but i know some people have added something nearby that you can pull yourself up on, whether that’s a piece of furniture or something you actually install like a metal bar or rope attached to the wall. so hopefully my hammock is still as great as ever and im not missing out on toooo many new benefits. only issue is that i’m using the double with the recommended hammock stand (so i can’t go any higher), and have taken great care to make sure the ridge-line measurement and angle are correct, but still occasionally bottom out getting in, and still haven’t figured out a graceful way to get out of it (still using a combination barrel roll/army crawl/face plant). i recently received a beautiful woven cotton hammock from gyana, s. i do toss and turn alot which is what worries be with the hammock. i’ve followed every tip for sleeping in a hammock that i’ve seen (hanging it loose, using the hammock angle, etc.′-9′ as a good minimum distance from end to end for the double hammock. the rr is best suited for smaller folks, folks over 225 may have issues with the hammock feeling too narrow or constrictive and may be better suited for the xlc. you can definitely work with even shorter distances and the hammock will just have more curve to it, but at that point it just becomes personal preference – some people love it and some want the hammock stretched a little tighter.. i want to try a hammock because i have a lot of health problems and it makes it very painful when i wake up. goal is to hammock camp as simple, light, and fast as possible. i wrote the previous chapter of this series, i initially hinted that this post would be titled “the hammock angle: make mine a double”. is a side by side comparison between the Eno single nest hammock and the Eno double nest hammock. so when using a rr with a spindrift on it, be sure to hang the hammock extra loose initially so that no damage is done when you tighten things up by inserting the poles, then tighten more if needed after poles go in. (my temporary solution, a mayan with the dreaded “hammock leprosy”/rope tattoo, has a nice dip in it, but after reading this i’m thinking it might still be not enough / too tight). you can immediately see how pulling the hammock tight causes the edges to tighten, narrow and constrict the amount of space and movement available in the hammock. when you’re lying down you’ll likely have high hammock walls around you (unless you use your arms to hold them down like you’ll see in some of the pictures below). would love to try sleeping in a hammock but weigh 250 pounds and don’t have anywhere in my room that i can hang it from (plaster and brick walls not studs and drywall),You didn’t talk about hammock stands and whether they were good or bad. i must get one of these hammocks asap so i can try it. i can’t sleep in a mummy bag, want more freedom and do suffer from hot flashes/night sweats (much less so from hammock sleeping, gratefully! is set and ready to go: you’ve got your hammock setup, a comfortable pillow, maybe a nice margarita or a cold beer and you’re planning on taking a nap or getting a full night’s sleep in your hammock. when the hammock is set up properly and you’re lying at the angle described the issue with your knees being hyper-extended shouldn’t be a problem at all. the hammock angle to create a nearly flat hammock surface opens up a wide range of sleeping positions that just aren’t possible in a hammock otherwise (not comfortably anyways). and don’t forget, trek light gear’s hammocks are designed to never spin or flip you out so you’ve got nothing to fear when moving around or shifting positions in the hammock. if sleeping in a c-shape is bad for your body and i’m telling you to hang your hammock with a good curve to it, how the heck are you supposed to lie flat and get a good night’s sleep? also, can your accessories like a rain fly and such go with other hammocks? you can see, keeping the material loose gives you a lot more space to stretch out and take advantage of the full width of the hammock. if the hammock you use and how you use it works for you and you’re as comfortable as you’ve ever been and sleeping perfectly then keep on doing it. stands are still great options though and plenty of our customers sleep in them nightly, it’s just that you’re limited by the height/length of the stand in terms of how your hammock hangs.