I'm dating a woman 10 years older than me

i wish i could write a character half as memorable. ”don’t forget the guy you canned for being dumb enough to fail your shit test and stay up all night doing whatever it was (or maybe that was junior high)., i am not sure if this is related, but i was really surprised when the phrase “people of color” became a politically correct phrasing because it reminded me so much of “colored people”. that shot of him shaking paula’s hand makes him look like a goon. the language is very strange and juvenile, and pb is right – “sloppy seconds” doesn’t even make sense., what i’m getting is that i should just hang back until i decide “i’m hunting for a relationship” and practically have it tattooed across my forehead. i never had a thing for older guys but i sure have a thing for him! moving east was the best thing that ever happened to me – i didn’t have to compete with california girls anymore. this is why teh wimminz is beyotches and can’t be trusted! i think it’s a direct result of the culture that says all men want is sex. but what does that have to do with making out? it was a case of “if that’s what men think about women, relationships and sex, i would be stupid to having anything to do with a male. have no problem with men qualifying women for commitment in any way they see fit. the thing is, i know women who are just like the type zach is dating, living in big cities like nyc, where they really don’t belong–high smv value women who are restricted.”if by “the man”, you mean you and me (i.. yeah, susan, that woman is insane, but if what she says is true, i just lost all respect for mark manson. i don’t think he wants to be my friend, and he probably need another female friend like he needs a bullet in the head.“i am not running anyone except ron perelman down, whom i consider to be a bad man. i also hear mixed things about meeting guys in bars, crushing on bosses, being set up by your grandma and giving your number to the cute barista. think vaguely of a mom trying to raise her sons. goldload more comments (1 reply)load more comments (3 replies)[–]justlikemercury 35 points36 points37 points 1 year ago (8 children)my husband is 27 years older (i'm 29, he's 55). older the guy is, the more likely it is that he’s economially secure. i don’t care where the hell i live, as long as i can make enough money to live well there.@ted dted, i was talking with someone last night about “the illusion of accomplishment. also went into my wife’s house once (when she was not there), we had a huge fight. december i am turning 33 and i find it depressing as hell that according to this blog, i’ve reached my peak and basically have nothing to offer to a quality guy who is looking to settle down. i’m 45 and currently living an all in “love relationship” with a 22 year old flower. i like hope’s comments as well as saywhaat’s.’s far from ugly, to the point where i ascribe anyone calling him such to a negative halo effect from the scandali find his looks very rodent-like. think thats a load of shit that applies to a percentage of the population which is not the majority. my family didn’t use it when i was growing up in the 60s. we had no where to go and my guy friend said we could stay in his massive mostly empty house until we figured something out., through pc, society stops expressing judgement, that’s when everything heads round the u-bend. actual consumption is more like buying lots of items, wearing them when it suits you, and then returning them. while that may work sometimes, the girl has to generate sexual chemistry in some other way. *scoff*) this is the part where i learned to ignore, cause it seemed all the girls wanted the validation of my attention, but not actually me.@lokland“i’ve been trying to accept certain things about myself since i was 15. this post i wanted to advise women to consider more men, and to deflate the prejudice against single guys in their 30s, which is hypocritical and unreasonable.@j1z“i wonder what the women here think of the cappy cap link? i’m not really looking to have a discussion in why reality is the way it is.@jackieas jesus says in the bible, prostitutes and tax collectors — those on whom we look down our noses — are entering the kingdom of god before you and me. have seen men much fatter, shorter and less conventionally than rp who are truly loved by their wives. your youth and beauty may get you the date, but they won’t suffice for the real deal. i also find that, once money is off the table, it’s the women who have fewer options or who have been abandoned by their own fathers who go for the older guys. that’s why most people spend a period of time together before marrying, and why impulsive marriages occurring after short periods of time often fail. it’s often done so well, that it sends the messege to most normal guys – i’m too much for you to handle. i do think young men often fall into the trap of feeling obligated to a girlfriend such that they feel they are wronging her by breaking up (i know i was that way). being said, as far as sexual variances go, my attitude is generally: anything goes in a committed relationship as long as everyone consents. if i was unhappy with my arrogance or “superiority”, i’d change it. all the sororities want the same girls, generally, so there’s always gossip among the frats about who got the best pledges. if high smv women would shoulder some risk and invest in men that show promise, there would be a lot fewer men that felt they got shafted in the dating market for building up themselves in some meaningful way rather than mere superficial charm. for instance,kelly just hooked up with a boy:After pe timmy kissed me behind the bleachers. if after ten minutes or so, it hasn’t gone anywhere else, it’s just kind of a big tease. you’re right, though, it really is a matter of personal style, and also habits. to me, it seems like the best route would be looking for men who are very ambitious and goal-oriented, being with him, and then developing together through age and experience. each of my children has a 5% chance of being born with a mental handicap, and a 5% chance of being born with end-stage renal disease (low, but still higher than average and enough to scare me). 😉 i bet we could write the same story and have it turn out totally different. people disagree, but i actually do think that having a child bonds a couple together even more firmly. just showed how out of it he is (never heard of ed, gayatri or subaltern studies) as well as betrayed his lack of a sense of humor.@ zachi wouldn’t fret about things with the new girl too much. it’ll probably change as you get older, and you can pick either casual sex or real relationships. you can feel it– the love shines out from them like a diamond. if i’m single at 30 (god forbid) i’d expand the age group. one guy tried to shoot himself in the heart and missed. they, in their collective hivemind, know what they are doing., my interest in what hollywood chooses to show, and what narratives they chooses to enforce is very different than what i would want to see in real life (i. my n is very low, so i personally think of myself on more on the restricted side. i could have called his wife or hr had i been that sort of woman. – what’s the psychology in dating an older man who looks young? it just so happens that they’ve noticed that this result comes more often if they assume a dominant position and demand submissiveness. my ex was 10 years older than me and he broke up with me a few weeks ago. fortunately i'm good friends with my ex and she's been very supportive of us both. i abandoned my career and women as my primary motivators in life and pursued fun. while that may be true for some, a 2010 study by the university of dundee in scotland found that as women become more financially independent, their taste may skew toward older (and better-looking) men. other words: are you part of the problem or part of the solution? granted, i really didn’t look my age back then, and she was very mature for 24. – man, if i had a million dollars i wouldn’t be on here, but if you think you can get blood from a turnip, knock yourself out. of the modern problem is that the transition from fun to work is relatively jarring and means that the “fun” part is going to decline because you don’t get to stay in the “fun zone”.” the primary reason given by men for taking their sweet time:they can get sex without marriage more easily now than in the past. my first boss in my first “real” job was about 10 years older than me.@kendrai’m so glad you returned to read all the comments to you! know this is a blog for college students but i found it helpful and interesting when i broke off my engagement to my fiance when i was 31, and was back in the dating game, which i hadn’t done since i was 25. but, seriously, if they ever do a reunion tour j is so coming with me. however, i suspect the single guys in their late 40s and 50s should have no problem getting single women in their 30s. if she wasn’t interested in him then why would she care about what he says to his friends? this is especially true when it comes to the perception of men in society who are constantly dating different women. perelman is alpha by that definition and he is beyond gross! for the record, her name was tracy, and she was a wonderful girl. a mid 30s woman approaching a successful mid 30s man is essentially asking to reap the benefits of stock she did not invest in when it was low. i actually didn't realize how old he really was at first because he looks awesome. you’re going to have a much easier time getting the intellectual girl to be more sexual than you would making the party girl more intellectual. a guy around my age (i’d say up to 24-25) would probably be best as he would understand where i’m coming from and why i work so much, etc. is always interesting to see girls get that deer-caught-in-headlights look when, after hearing their checklist of things they want in a man, you ask them what they are bringing to the table. – “in susan’s defense, usually the claim in the manosphere is that the carouselers “settle” for the beta to whom they aren’t attracted, since they can’t snag the more wild types for commitment, but are always secretly hoping to trade up from him. but unlike most 1’s, my view is not primarily based on religious conviction, it is just how i see things.@olivethe real problem is when you have a clingy and a non-clingy together. it’s pretty easy for men to meet girls in nyc. i guess i feel like my life hasn’t been super easy (pretty much every medical problem i’ve had, including bipolar and hearing loss, can be chalked up to tbs) and i’d rather not pass that experience on to my kids, whoever they might be, if i can help it. gold[–]sausagemcmuffdiver 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)my so is a nurse and most of the doctors and staff we deal with are associates of hers, so we're fortunate that we don't hear those things. ”to be clear, i find any kind of social stuff awkward, including emotional communication., i’m gonna take at least few days off from offending people.. it’s silly to look in the hebrew scripture for justification if premarital sex. however, his confidence and charm are ascending at this time, and are just below his peak physical attractiveness. some try to relocate to the location of the other, but it can be difficult to find jobs in the same location, especially knowing that further moves are likely just a couple of years away. i know very few men that i would consider attractive that are 40 and older. i realize your a big boy who will figure it out on your own but you do present an excellent teachable moment for the readers. has happened in recent decades is that the entertainment industry just gobbles more and more of the headlines and also the old la wasp “society” based in hancock park, pasadena & san marino has declined, so the upper class people who set the tone are all hollywood. i think iggles recognizes that she’d avoid that type, so she came off a certain way., but the “type” of escalation a restricted girl may want may depend on “when. obviously young 30’s, but older 20’s would be ok, and you should (if you haven’t already) seriously consider high 30’s early 40’s., what is “dating around” going to lead to when the girl knows that she doesn’t want an ltr at this stage and does not want to marry until she been through *at least* 2-3 bfs?’s a hard one to answer, mostly because it’s hard to diagnose depression over the internet. no one who knows me irl would call me submissive, but nearly everyone i know views me as kind and loving to those who deserve it. i have heard this exact story literally dozens of times.. zach and the woman he is seeing; jackie’s comments at 1419 made me think–brilliant observation. hahaha”if only… i had the raw tools and certainly at least a few traits to induce a tingle, i just had absolutely no clue how to use it, and a moral compass that made me feel it would be wrong to do so even if knew how. physical affection pretty much defined our relationship for the first 3 months. i was 19, it would have made no sense for me on any level to have done that. my roommate was one of the guys from my army reserve unit, and he was about 25. studies show that most men experience a 2% drop-off in testosterone production each year after they turn 30. because his company wants him to do a gig in london for 2-4 years, and you have no idea how the hell you would ever get a job in london. she said that the lack of stress from school and work was amazing. if you know you’ll be moving in 4 years, does it matter if your mate will as well? puzzles me when people talk about men and aging as if most men turn into george clooney at 47. he bought me a drink, and we actually talked for about an hour and a half.@sassy“i think the problem is that zach’s girl does not know how to convey sensuality at all”+1. mean, i’m, uh, glad that ted can make himself naked with other people.”so you don’t feel neglected…again, from my pov, just one ons for a young woman is riding the carousel., i believe that this has more influence on the growing college gender ratio skew than discrimination against boys in school.(i should be careful – he found me via this blog and for all i know he could be reading every word.@emily:” my experience is that the guy will stay in the bad ltr, but only until he finds his next jumpoff girl, so as to not interrupt the steady sex supply. this is all of course assuming i could attact a significantly younger woman, which is not a given. my mom was initially not a fan of the ages, but once she met him, she definitely understood. and being told that is your sole value in the eyes of men. proper diet, training, supplementation, and yes, plastic surgery if needed, it’s not too hard to err much more towards the side of clooney for men. he did get out and i found someone to rent the house. i curate digital content for a brand and i’m currently working on developing an education platform for the makeup artists of the brand in which i will write all of the content and screen directions and hire the videographers, editors, etc. the way i always experienced entering a relationship was as such: i like her, she likes me…courtship…nuptial dance…mutual seduction…and eventually we are together, with all avenues wide open in front of us. most women don’t do that, and in fact most cannot. watched louis theroux on the westboro facists last night – what charming people, fully empowered by their religious beliefs. are far too many people in this world looking for ltrs, for anyone the proclaims to being doing so to waste their time with someone would isn’t quick to comply., i meant to show cute ‘evopsych’ and ‘/evopsych’ tags there but the blog platform stripped them out.@zach“when i actually managed to get her to take a piece of clothing off , after we were done making out (which is all it was), she used her arms to cover herself up as we were ”my wife did this the first time i took her top off. you are most certainly not the man i recommend, lol. much as pli works, i think it works primariy for low investment scenarios. goldload more comments (1 reply)load more comments (4 replies)[–]imperialismho 19 points20 points21 points 1 year ago (1 child)ohio isn't that bad :(. but it really seemed to work despite the age difference, at least, short term. – “it’s interesting that judaism doesn’t include the nt (obvs! however, i do not revel in my shorter (male) friends having a harder row to hoe.@olive i wonder if, much like girls who road the carousel have issues when they try to lock it down with a restricted guy, guys who played the unrestricted game struggle when it comes to getting with a restricted girl. however, i feel luckier than ever to be with my man. that comment #8 that hans pointed to was serious bunny boiler material. white knight here, but i’m having a hard time understanding what susan said that was so controversial. which is ultimately why i had to simply give up on it and try other ways to filter. seeking professional advice are inappropriate for this subreddit and will be removed. hell, one keeps up with college kids reffing basketball games and barely breaks a sweat. have great feelings right now because i’m packing up to head home and see my wife and kids. i was freaking out again over the “her job, his job, submit” thing again, but this i can do.) iow, partnered women are not at risk for adultery during ovulation. long as it isn’t 100% intentional, i suppose we men are supposed to be ok with it… good lord i literally laughed out loud when i saw the original statement. perhaps it was because he said it almost every time that he saw me. i’m having a hard time seeing why you’d accuse me of trapping this man.@ zach:actually, with morality being a human social concept that is quite fluid across cultures and societies, and tribal affiliation being a genetically-driven (your tribe usually shares more genes than theirs), biologically common (all sorts of other animals display it) trait, i’d say it works the other way around. for me, it isn’t such a feeling of being “toxic” as being “creepy. but i have run into my fair share of christians who loudly proclaim how they are god’s servants, blessed be his name, etc & etc, yet they’re quick to condemn and not once have i ever seen their ilk working at a soup kitchen or similar.”it is true that the longer a man dates, it is less likely that he will be satisfied with the one he will marry.@jpi don’t really even know what people here mean when they speak about female solipsism. what is the point of being with someone this long if marriage isn’t the end goal? in mind what i’ve learned from my own relationship and anecdotes i’ve picked up from women in similar situations, i’ve outlined the perks and challenges of dating an older man. college kids at least have ltrs, and they mostly have sex much later than lower ses kids, many of whom have nothing but strs, producing children!, you don’t have to know from the start, but you should be able to tell very quickly. my experience, any man that i’ve given my phone number to who was interested in me called me within a week of receiving my number.’ll say it again: i have never met a young woman who was interested in going on dates, being in a relationship, or marrying for the purpose of “extracting resources. i literally chalked my limited success with women up to the wrong things. we only moved 3 miles away so not only did he go to the same school, he even still rode the same school bus. dating is a way of learning more about someone, and it’s going to make you like them more or less. think it more likely reflects a view of zach as a player and perhaps a knowledge that she is punching above her weight class in terms of sexual experience. topless by date three is a long way from sex, and could easily fit into a restricted person’s comfort zone.@ramble re: training: i suppose, but given i was in a full-time job with an extremely long commute (hour+ by car one way), and also in a mentally demanding career, with 10-11 hours of work + job, and 8 hours of sleep (extremely generous) that still leaves a solid five hours.” i was thinking you were like 5’0″ or something from your posts! too think of the jebbies as the talmudists of the christian world. most men will have married for the first time by age 30. they never actually mentioned the rule so it was a little nugget for those in the know. it has more to do with people becoming too entrenched in their age-specific social circles and thus lacking the opportunities to mix it up with an older set than an actual resistance to older suitors. not that women weren’t interested, but they tended to be very late ‘20s, early ‘30s types (and they weren’t coming around bringing me little treats and stuff). i’m sure they never thought that their wives were “having imaginary sex” with other men, and are also the most likely to have been cheated on by their wives when ovulation occurred, because that is when she is most likely to “step out” and take the risk. over a period of years, it became harder and harder for him to resist the temptation to try and get more of that.!@susanwhat zach said, in its entirety (and i’m not in ny). if its dating, then it better damn well be the kind of dating that leaves clothes on. honestly, a girl that uncomfortable with sexuality is not something i can deal with. get the impression that people outside my inner circle wonder if i’m lying and that maybe he picked me up at a hotel bar or something cliché like that. i would wager that the average length of an ltr from age 18-28 is well under a year.”m going to go out on a limb and say that charlotte is merely reflecting the conditioning of young people to deny interest in or investment in relationships. tonight after i get dinner done (wife is working late tonight so i’m on kitchen duty) i’m going to pour a glass of wine and toast to future cooper!@susanre: rp & eb– i believe that marriage (his 4th, i think? another let me take her out on legthy evening dinner dates, one time being to the starlit balcony of the yatch club, until i found out she was already regularly sleeping with a guy from my dorm. i dislike promiscuity in men just as much as i dislike it in women. it may be ok during one’s middle years, but as we age those ten years can seem like a lot more.’m not sure who you’re hanging out with, but that’s something i’ve never heard in a long lifetime of listening. i know quite a few women who are a bit older than their husbands, because they met as peers at grad school, work, etc. my social circle’s remaining men in that demographic, myself included, have mostly expressed a desire for stability and a family.@susan:“i prefer to take the measure of the real world, and come up with ways of dealing with it.“well, you’ve managed to royally piss off the mras, puas, internet feminazis, and reddit mangina dorks.”””i’m pretty sure that this is also the source of my primary philosophy, that i only got one shot at having sex, and i was basically required to follow through and get married if i did choose to engage in pre-marital sex.@charlotteyou remind me a lot of a very close girl friend (platonic) of mine. sure, the women sometimes are hurt that he never called again. the popularization of second wave feminism, with the accompanying view that a woman’s virginity was her own to dispose of, removed those laws from the books, but i would bet that someone on this thread will characterize the criminal prosecution of the man in your link as “feminist. endorphins are worth their weight in gold (to me at least). i went back to find him and he had left the party!. if by average, you mean the mean bmi of the american male, perhaps that is obese, idk. it seemed involuntary at the time, but looking back i realize there was always a choice not to talk or listen or even pay any attention to that other person. (my favorite is probably the wildlife foundation benefit at the central park zoo every year). was saying that you have a pretty big battle to fight if you want to correct these misapprehensions. i already know the smp sucks, i don’t see any point in keening and wailing over it. it was a big story in the nyc tabloids, complete with photos of her on the streets cursing a blue streak at the house. i mean just because a man courts you several times doesn’t mean you “owe” him anything.:the truth is, most women really don’t want to go more than 10 years older at the outside. is no question that that sororites make looks a criteria for entry though none would ever say so aloud. i’ve never experienced a man waiting more than that to call me/text me. i’m 32 but constantly get told that i look in the mid-20s. lot of the resentment of the fabulous carousel seems to stem either from religious considerations, which i wish charlotte had but its her business, or from resentful men who were never called to form part of it.”no, you’re explaining why she might be guarded, cautious and want to wait rather than get hurt. i needed to know that the man truly loved me and cared about me before he got to even first base. secondly, the market for sex has been set very low here in nyc. when you consider my point from earlier that without an inheritance or extreme luck, resources and youth are pretty mutually exclusive.” but if a man expresses that same sentiment in public and in writing about unattractive and overweight women, he’s a sexist pig jerk. matter what he’s telling himself on his setting page, a 30 year-old man spends as much time messaging 18 and 19 year-olds as he does women his own age. – “honestly, i don’t like it when a man tells me that he misses me either. goldload more comments (3 replies)[–]chowdermagic 17 points18 points19 points 1 year ago (0 children)my mother and i are the same. earlier up thread someone, i forget who, spoke about a 19 year old who found it enjoyable to be a stay-at-home girlfriend to an older man. obviously haven’t read the threads at manboobz so i have no sense of the discussion over there, but is it possible you were banned for consistently bringing up material that was off topic? you may not be very compatible with her, and there is nothing wrong with that. he has expressed more than a few times that “there really is no point to life. around here you have to earn the right to complain.@cooperthere something about suggesting that girls “date-up” in age that just comes off, to me, as just promoting hypergamy.@game of thrones devotees@hansolo: are you trash-talking the khaleesi? the manosphere might have started out with good gripes, but susan isn’t the “enemy #1” here. you want “nothing serious” (which seems to be code for monogamy), then have fun around with the players, that’s what they are there for. it was not a big issue for us – clearly he is more like tom than abbot. can lead a whore to culture but you can’t make her think. i know kids who applied to ten colleges and only harvard accepted them.:oh, i think it’s pretty clear what susan meant. goldload more comments (1 reply)[–]shinigamimuaythai 17 points18 points19 points 1 year ago (1 child)there's an 11 year age gap between me and my so, she's 21 and i'm 32. there is nothing wrong with an age gap of 10+ years but such pairings are rare.”response to your claim that an ltr ends the second someone better comes along. it was too gooey/mushy for my taste, and i told him so repeatedly before he slowly stopped doing it. i've learned so much about the world from her, and i'm sure it will save me decades of heart breaks and midlife crisis later. is pure alpha – they’re the ones most likely to look like him! whatever it is, she obviously doesn’t feel comfortable with him as relationship material.’m not sure, but off the top of my head i would assume that means you can go younger, while you might not do as well with women your own age, especially if they look older than you do.”the problem is that this results in somebody’s heart being smashed. i think it’s fair to say that any woman who marries you in future is a fool. it is nearly impossible to find a member of a tribe (religion, society, family) who, all other things being equal, will favor a member outside the tribe over himself. but i’m very introverted, whereas you, susan, zach and several others here who say dating is fun are obviously extroverts! personally, i’ve always been of the opinion that 28 is the sweet spot for males physically, but that’s entirely subjective, so i decided to do some research. but that’s the sort of backlash that happens when you indiscriminately oppress people. i could have made it work either way, but now that i know my son i certainly wouldn't have it any other way. i live in a suburb(not far from the beach) in the city of perth. the behavior behind the scenes is very similar, just not the same volume that a really promiscuous girl would rack up. we will dance and drink and party, and then we will make out in his car for an hour before i head inside. it may be ok during one’s middle years, but as we age those ten years can seem like a lot more …. not permanently, just to try it on to see what it feels like?“which is kind’ve why people who do it when they don’t have to are probably better bets for times when they should. you are 40, affluent and attractive, with no kids from a prior marriage, you should do quite well with women mid-20s and up. because he just got into medical school at wake forest. sounds like the expert, but even there there is probably a skew in which personality types go the therapy route, as opposed to sorting things out themselves (positively or negatively). my problem should have been finding somewhere to jack off not loneliness. he is making deliberate choices that expressly contradict each other, and, at the very least, set himself up for “high drama. as an indian, i have to point out that mother teresa did very little for the poor.'m sorry you went through what you did :/ i was really upset because after i broke up with him, all of my friends were like "oh, finally, he's an ass" and 20 year old me by this point was like ". i don’t think age has much to do with it; it has more to do with how he read you and the situation, which is to say that he was probably either looking for something different, e.) i have no intention of suffering the slow decline of a disease of affluence like so many in my family have. what is the point of even attempting to communicate anything to anyone if you’re going to simply invent your own personal definitions to existing words that have already been well-defined? – “(“at-will” monogamy until further notice, easy unilateral exit, no required consideration of the other person’s feelings). are assigned to work with someone from another division of your company on a group project. we've picked up a lot of habits (some bad and some good), but you're not about to change them. he was very good looking, but kind of a mess emotionally, he had a terrible relationship with his father, who was a high testosterone type who called him a sissy. i care about results, and to me people are a resource or a roadblock, but never the reason.)“can you think of any reason you might end a ltr instead of marrying that person? i'm even more relived that you got your kids and pets to a safe place and that you had friends who were willing to help you. now i don't have any issues with you wanting to date a man two decades older than you, but this baby shit is getting a little too gory for me. he got the real admiration that he lacked at home from me.. online dating offers a traditional dating model, though its success among women in their early 20s is mixed, as many are reluctant to go with the “blind date” approach so quickly. unlike men, who are good-to-go, women it appears are in a “switched-off ” mode through a disgust mediated mechanism. that’s the bitter part for me, because had i known, not only would i have had more success with women in general (if i wanted it regardless) but i’d have been a much happier young man since i could have just been myself.. at my age, if i was heavy on the sauce, it would take a little more than that to “stir my manhood” (which is not to say that it couldn’t be stirred).” making out and going on multiple dates makes her belong to not girl who wants nothing but to never see you/him again, and the act of making out makes her not asexual, but prudish, yes probably. i haven’t bought the game for that reason i freaking love it but the baby is too young to learn and our friends always want to try new games instead of the boring catan every single time we play, like i always want, in that vein my husband’s best friend wife tries to go for the “longest road” i’m more development cards/bigger army. jeff and i have a great time, i like this kid.”all of these examples would not prevent a good marriage from forming if two people are truly in love. i work in a female-dominated company (cosmetics), and a lot of us girls working have the same complaints about the guys in ny. i say unofficially because he was my manager from my first job, and i had to keep it under wraps for a while. there must be a reason why reasonably fit college professors were getting laid like tile by their students before they finally had to prohibit it to appease the feminists. jackie said she wanted to date a guy but maybe not marry him because she wasn’t sure but is still open to that, she would probably have lots of support. if he's ever said that you've made him the happiest man in the world i would bet that he was actually right about that. it will help you get over approach anxiety, will get you used to talking to new girls, some of which you will probably associate with a little bit more and become friends with, possible ltrs, etc. should any woman in a similar situation assume the guy is gonna go and do a pschyo-analysis about the time you cut your barbies hair off when you were 4 and its deeply troubled you which has rendered you asexual until the girlfriend label is introduced. i didn’t want to talk to anyone, but i was perfectly comfortable pouring my heart out singing on stage in front of them… *shrug* like i said, nuts. i would much rather be single forever than be with a man who married me to honor commitment in his heart when he actually felt something real for someone else. ok, maybe it isn’t bad ass in a traditional sense., she seems a very, shy, restricted, nervous woman, which in today’s world seems juvenile and way outside the norm. hope, you are quite the analyzer of human nature, in my opinion. reality is that many men date multiple women for the same reasons women date a lot of men. from the national marriage project (2004) report:age is yet another important predictor of men’s propensity to marry. (i mean, i read it as asking sandy directly, does sandy want a piece of pizza? actually agree with the idea that the body is secondary to the soul, but i also think you have to take a leap of faith because someone has to provide the body and maybe being imperfect is actually the key to fulfilling their destiny. but it is rather pertinent that the number of men who have a shot with gorgeous 25 year olds when they are 25 isn’t much larger.“how quickly do you think a person should be obligated to make that decision after meeting someone? gold[–]tehrin 100 points101 points102 points 1 year ago* (21 children)my wife is 14 years older than i am, works just fine - we've been together for 10 years. i think you underestimate that number of guys that married women who were at best marginally attracted to them, because they didn’t know any better.: “but the discussions here, such as the beta provider ones, tend to focus on the extremely unrestricted women, i. henry-type short story about a man who writes a pua blog on the science of seduction.”what cooper hears:“again to reiterate, i am not suggesting that women don’t date cooper, i’m just encouraging women to broaden the net and not be suspicious of men who have some advantages over cooper. when men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. i probably would not sleep with a guy until i was certain i really liked them, they reciprocated the feelings, and they were interested in things going beyond just the occasional dinner and movie.@just1zi deleted your comment on child support – i have no interest in a highjack that will bring hollenhund et al over here.”i think i have the opposite effect on people when i invite out my inner attorney. ever since i’ve been much happier with my life.“i really wonder how people come to the conclusion that money can make them happy. think that that is the point of the expensive engagement ring – she keeps it if he bails. 26, 2012 1,475 comments women in college perceive a dearth of relationship-minded men, so those who want to fall in love and have a serious relationship often look to graduation as the time when things will improve as traditional dating reappears. the neat thing is that your decision is made for you before you start actually dating them. townes-brocks syndrome has a 50% chance of being passed on (esrd and mental retardation are just two of the more severe/rare components) so the odds aren’t too good, but there is ivf/pgd (where they test the embryos before choosing one to implant as part of in vitro). published four hundred years ago in madrid, the book was an immediate success and recognised as one of the classic texts of western literature, revered by writers such as sterne, goethe, flaubert, dostoevsky, kafka and melville. don’t disagree that she needs better girl game, and i certainly made it clear to my husband that i was going to sex him up before we got physical.) shoes in the elevator and talking about what a good deal it is… it’s interesting to watch/listen to, but not for me. i’ll take that as a sign that perhaps i’m barking up the right tree.@susan“would you want a woman to marry you because she’d been in an ltr with you, even though her attraction for you had begun to wane in recent months, and a handsome guy at work was tempting her with regular invitations?“then she said all she could think about was the eighth grade term “sloppy seconds” and if i was going to tell my friends we went to second base. i think that guys at my high school worshiped a certain type of girl, and i did not fit that type. i see my wife every single day of my life, and i still on occasion find myself at this very desk “daydreaming” about being with her. the older one has been with the same guy (really really nice guy, by the way) for a few years. i get enough time to actually look it up, i’ll find it. quality men are in no rush – they understand that their mmv is increasing.@susanyes, definitely i am one of the guys at those charity balls.“one is the “don’t sleep with him until you’re dating”. day after that he was gone and i took literally all the food out of the house (i paid for it and i had kids to feed) and my microwave and my coffee maker.’the inability to maintain this state will result in being placed in the slut latter or being ignored completely cause you aren’t willing to climb the damn ladder. you unlock the subject, like calculus, the entire system falls into place like sandblasting a soup cracker because you see the unity. want fun and that butterfly feeling, and you can get it, but to do so you are either going to break some poor guy’s heart or else fall for a player or players. seeing lena dunham naked all the time was annoying enough.’s in keeping with what amber madison found in her 10 city survey of single men:on openness to relationships99% of men would welcome a relationship with the right girl73% said their primary interest in women is “someone to have a relationship with”95% intend to marry2. usually when people contemplate suicide it means they think it isn’t worth living here in this particular environment. on the other hand, i have a great uncle, also with type i diabetes and he’s now 80 years old!”and that’s too bad, because instead of making things better, it’s wallowing in the status quo. i very much dislike the behavior, but i do not hate the person, or sex, or race, or religion, etc. there are literally thousands of internet forums on pretty much any topic. be it modern medical tech, women having fewer children, or even the appeal of lululemon, to me a lot of women are staying attractive at much older ages than was previously true (one girl i was dating introduced me to her aunt, who was 40, and i honestly would have tossed aside the 23 year old in a heartbeat for her she was that gorgeous). he doesn’t fly loose and free with his intimacy, and he takes ltr seriously, which seems to be a long dead trend. are men who say all sorts of things about asian features. however, it would appear that the ugly sexy magic wears off.” a more restricted type of guy might like the idea of having a sort of sexual tabula rasa as his partner, and then developing things from there." which blew my mind because as far as i figured, my boss had no idea we were even seeing each other outside of work.@j“that may be pretty descriptive of the greek scene, but outside that scene i don’t think most girls date two guys and have have some romantic contact with two others in three weeks. i know quite a few, in fact, especially in the older generation! now i am picturing the classroom scene out of raiders of the lost ark. gold[–]hemolies 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (0 children)i like that you suggest to know the facts.”charlotte is protecting herself emotionally, which is an important survival skill for a woman in nyc! he got a bunch of tattoos and started cutting himself. even with a nine hour work day and an hour commute each way (absolute worst case scenario) that leaves ample time.@ jackiet-paine, using someone else’s bad behavior to justify your own is not okay.. let’s face it, dating in college and especially high school is pretty much darwinian and drives entirely towards the superficial. by no means am looking to rack up a high number. i basically charmed my way in i suppose, something i have been doing all my life.“they should donate their wonderful clear genes to me, as mine are tainted and i really want kids. on top of that, her language and concerns (sloppy seconds, thinking he would brag about going to second base) would suggest that she is, at best, emotionally stunted in this area and, at worst, full of real hang ups. ironically, women statistically have the best chances of snagging a ltr-oriented guy when he’s in his mid-20s…. when men pick up a girl in a bar, for example, they aren’t looking for a long-term partner. is it that the restricted guys think they are unrestricted because of their sorority membership and so they avoid them? it’s exhausting), the fear of commitment that plagues most twentysomethings, and the simple fact that most guys my age aren’t as emotionally mature as i am. so just another 25 years to go before i get those hugs too :)., that should be “clearly either your baby is a little angle or you have a lot of help from the family”. definition seems to be that at some point two people who are exclusively dating get married and suddenly the rules change and the relationship is serious. now we've been married for 3 years and have a kid together.[grandgeneralization]my guess is that highly empathetic people do not do that well in the “dating” world. however if i suspect when i get to be in my late 20s and 30s a 10+ age gap would be welcomed.”btw, i surprised my bf the other day with a sexy new chemise. also claimed to have a law degree from a prestigious but unspecified university. the whole purpose of going on dates is to see whether there is a potential match., the point isn’t to have an “emotional control valve”. if things didn’t move on to ltr by around date 4, i cut her loose and looked for another girl to date. sometimes the sexual spark/chemistry just isn’t there, and i have never seen the point of trying to force things. the difference is, while you seem to concentrate on the “little things” that can be changed quickly to push things in the right direction, i’m more likely to say the whole thing is broke, should be scrapped, and started over.@olive,if he was like me, then he started honing those computer skills at a very young age. there’s something to be said for dealing with infants in one’s youth rather than middle age.” the guy i was into ended up leaving to go to another birthday party in a rush taken by his other friend without taking my number, which i was a bit disappointed by.“so, she’s helping future cooper so that the youthful women know that he’s a good catch. whether it is because she is “overly” vulnerable, protecting herself from past mistakes, or zach did not create enough comfort, or she is simply prudish, she is most likely protecting herself.: “i do think that women dating guys in their 30s need to be very careful to make sure this is not the case – he should have a history of ltrs rather than strictly strs…”i agree. for example, 68% say that at this stage in life they want fun and freedom; 54% say they are not interested in getting married anytime soon; 64% agree “there are so many bad marriages today it makes one question the value of marriage;” and 41% agree that “you can’t trust women to tell the truth about their past relationships., girls who want to get married off in the near future should probably focus on older guys (late 20s-early 30s)., on the blogs were the adage gets a lot of credence, there are older guys who think that they can continue to be attractive to very young women into their 60s as long as they work out. naked women aren’t so bad to look at, especially the ones on got. i am 33, and would like to marry a woman about 20 years younger than me. i’m sure they never thought that their wives were “having imaginary sex” with other men, and are also the most likely to have been cheated on by their wives when ovulation occurred, because that is when she is most likely to “step out” and take the risk.– and i could be totally mistaken here, please correct me if i’m wrong– but you read to me as a very “bottom line” kind of person. i literally carried him for 9 months in the womb and nine months in a sling. i’m also pointing out that this attitude, which susan has given voice to, is one of the primary reasons the manosphere exists. women who want men with ltr qualities as they age may or may not be able to get them, depending on whether they are perceived as worthy by those men.@passerby“well, you’ve managed to royally piss off the mras, puas, internet feminazis, and reddit mangina dorks. came over a few times to try and get me to buy her booze, but never actually asked. perhaps hus has a self-selected group of men that have never done so either?@j “here,” she said, “it’s not mine, but it’s the number of someone who looks like me that you might have some things in common with. deti, i think what susan is guilty of here is making a snarky remark about the looks of someone whose behavior she found ugly. – “that is what i feel like when you post jeremiads about how slutty and awful and unrestricted the way things are today. like they will wait until they have the baby and then try to loose as much weight as they can to look like a million bucks when they actually do get married.

Dating a man 10 years older than me

in fact, i know widows in that position who refuse the attentions of frailer men.@ saywhaatthat reminds me, i’ve been meaning to ask…how exactly is your goal to get a girlfriend coming along?: settlers of catan strategiesi usually try to monopolize a resource and get its trading port. for example, my first bf was not very bright, but he was sure good lookin’. if the man fails, he is communicating to the woman that since he cannot even stand up to her, it is probably the case he will not be up to the task of protecting her and her children. yet, even the women who join the carousel because they feel that is what they need to do–bring the sex up front–they are not happy at all. susan would be happy to know that in hs some wanna-be alpha tried to alpha his way into her pants and she gave him a big fat red stop sign.”the ancient hebrews were also excellent at picking fights they couldn’t win and then not winning them. if she has been a more restricted girl, you probably scare the hell out of her. an alternative view to the beta provider bait and switch gambit. you don’t even allow the small talk with the woman at work. i automatically make the assumption that all individuals who are adults are independent. i mean, i spent 4+ years with two women i didn’t marry, but most of that time was spent assuming i would marry them when i could.@charlotte (also a little @susan)just finished a major project at work, and the rest of my afternoon looks pretty free, so this may turn into a bit of a russian novel. i want more for the future, so the men who catch my interest are upper class.) the true self is always looking for other true selves to take on as gurus and learn from. 🙂btw, i surprised my bf the other day with a sexy new chemise. how “colored” marks you as kkk but “person of color” means you are more enlightened than buddha. most of my male friends have never said anything like that. hus will let me convert a closet to a small rubber room. i think you are missing is that many guys want a few relationships before they marry as well. one point, i told him point blank that i didn’t want him to tell me that he missed me. i haven’t spoken to a single young man in the last four years who wants to marry before his late 20s at the earliest. if you can’t manage to keep a relationship together for more than a few years but it does happen. i love his humor, though some of it goes over my head., you are the exact opposite of zach, as conversation and compatibility appears not to interest you. than that boy and those fathers, you got almost no attention from boys because of the competition from taller, blonder california girls and then you go to college on the east coast and you are getting dates, from different guys, each night of the weekend. it just makes me laugh how these status markers work. his “maturity” is not what got him that woman with the very shiny face., it makes the legal case better the *more* psychiatric hospitalizations they have. i bet his wives won’t put out for him., the median age at marriage for women with a degree is 30, and there is a very large population of women your age who are not partnered. if he tried to befriend you as part of a group it might be different, so i think your reading is accurate. not forget to tell us what the results of the magic were. but, read literally, most would take it to mean that attending mit was what magically made him able to understand calculus, rather than the other way around (i. that, my parents and other relatives would have been seriously on my case if i even thought to do something of the sort–live with a man as a “kept woman,” a mistress, i would have never heard the end of it. puzzles me when people talk about men and aging as if most men turn into george clooney at 47. getting it right most of the time, wrong a few times. yes, he is physically repulsive, but it’s so much more than that! i dance to free bird and stairway to heaven with tommy b.@tedd:“jp – man, if i had a million dollars i wouldn’t be on here, but if you think you can get blood from a turnip, knock yourself out. be honest here: what makes you deserving of their love? keep in mind this is my uncle’s second wife, and she’s just a few years older than his daughter from his first marriage. he smelled nice, and i was sensually aroused, but my mind had checked out at that point.”and in my defense, i didn’t fire the first volley on this particular skirmish. it turns out, most of the guys i know never pined for them as well. to the extent i could make any sense of it, i took it to mean she was afraid of other people coming to view her as sloppy seconds by virtue of the fact that she took her top off on the 4th date. i don’t know if this was the policy or just the accident, but i enjoyed the diversity of people my children will never have (and, thanks god for that! “i would wager that the average length of an ltr from age 18-28 is well under a year. i’m not trying to complain or whine, just trying to paint a realistic view of how ‘betas’ see the world in college and why they can become so bitter later in life. by all means she should shop around but she should be careful to let go, gently, the merchandise she knows she doens’t want as soon as she knows and before extracting from him/them any resources under dubious pretenses.. more immediate access to sex, or is already involved w/other women (even something lined up for later that night) and didn’t need to escalate with you at that point. – “by butterflies, i didn’t mean the excitement of omg they texted. women value kissing for the activity itself, and they get a lot of chemical information from kissing, most notably from the male’s saliva., j will probably have a good concrete suggestion for dealing with your friend, but if you think he is really contemplating suicide i think you should alert his loved ones and urge him to talk to someone asap. also, way way way way more open to debate and intepretation! he’s a member of your tribe, she’s not.@detideti, the repulsiveness of perelman is in his character (or lack thereof, rather). i know he was playing pool and mum was checking him out. i think it’s a direct result of the culture that says all men want is sex. the few times we are both clingy at the same time are kinda funny. speaking of which, got to run because that is literally where i need to be in 20-30 min. perhaps there’s a guy in the room who’s interested, but more likely not. you want long-term, you’re going to need to learn to drop the expectation of sex by the third date.>> “one of my upcoming posts is about the book the technique of the love affair, written in 1928 by a gentlewoman. you need a venue with men who’ll be receptive–a conservative church mixer, an orthodox jewish matchmaker, a group of indian parents looking for a suitable woman for an available young man.“and speaking as someone who fell hard for a guy, only to discover later that he lied about me giving him a blowjob at a party, no,”well, if you’d just given him the god damn blowjob he wouldn’t have had to lie, now, would he? as i am not a huge fan of the terms alpha and beta (even though i do employ them from time to time), i am also not a big fan of the term “dating”. to a woman, “macho” characteristics signal “cad,” so we tend to steer clear. but keep in mind, the ‘sphere tends to collect the “herb” type men after they’ve been burned, so perhaps many of them have indeed been in marriages where no or little attraction was ever present.@detisusan, you want to know why men are bitter and angry? since india’s independence in 1947—or more precisely since 1943—there has been a spectacular revival of the phenomenon in four northern indian states: bihar, uttar pradesh, madhya pradesh, and especially rajasthan, a former stronghold of sati. i’m not talking about “holy”, but just having standards in general.“as someone else said, guys don’t have a medium between booty call and girlfriend. he can get a 25-year-old whose youth and beauty trump anything my 33-year-old self might have to offer. i didn’t take it that personally because i know my standards are a modern day anachronism.”it’s very counterintuitive to me that you would need to stand up to somebody in a relationship, since a relationship implies that you give the person what they ask for whenever they ask for it (and you are really supposed to be doing this for everyone, based on my understanding of morality that i absorbed growing up, meaning turn the other cheek, give to those who ask, etc. i’m forty-two, about to marry a thirty-year old, and have never been in as good shape or sexually-driven in my entire life as i am now. truth is, i’m completely content feeling that i’m smarter (at least in a street/common sense way) and more moral than most folks., i mean this in the nicest way, racking up your n in search of butterflies and maybe “the one” would be a serious mistake for all kinds of reasons. do not approve of any person using any other person for gain while pretending to be making up their mind. most days i could barely drag myself out of bed, i could barely motivate myself to do work, and i would break down crying pretty much every day on the train. imo, christianity is based on a false god, that we call jesus christ. read a nyt piece on her and it talked about her youtube video she had of her in a bikini when she was 21 and described her “ample” thighs and “generous” belly. he’s a member of your tribe, she’s not.@rolloyour smv graphs bear an uncanny resemblance to another smv graph:i beg to differ, they look nothing alike! she may turn out to be a wildcat once you clear her filters for comfort and intimacy. i mean obviously i would never string some guy along until he is head-over-heels in love and i cackle when i tell him i’m really busy and selfish. not all dbags and players are so obvious, many are quite charming and can have grown up conversations without groping your ass, so to say. i’m with cooper: there are two reasons to date:2. enough, the son emailed me a couple of years ago, having found hus on his own, asking me if i was his old next door neighbor.. the fact that 10 years later guys are still using this wingman setup is incredibly pathetic. why did you lie to my face for almost a year about how you thought he was great. i find some awkwardness and shyness around sex to be a little endearing.-stringent requirement as to not be more than a few years older than the woman… then you pretty much just have a caste mating system because you simply cannot have youth, appearance, and resources in the same man unless it is inherited, and this is speaking as someone that jumped from a working class family to umc well before he was 30. this is to some extent reflecting my own experience and prejudices regarding the reality of nyc, perhaps the world capital of attention-deficit combat dating. but it really doesn’t make sense to complain that some women are unrestricted.” i think there are many people each of us could be potentially happy with.. i’m interested in a person 18 months younger than me. in the mating scene, that’s the same as dating guys for longer than a few dates when you know you don’t want them as a spouse or even a ltr. when a man is finally ready to settle down, he’ll take the best woman his smv can barter for and make it work… the way it’s always been, from aristotle to today. i’m fine with p&d’ing a girl cause she’s cheating on her boyfriend. but now i’m thinking i might be wrong on that. otoh, i do not believe that the answer is what deti suggested – women going to college already married, or foregoing education and career pursuits altogether. i have to admit it’s comforting to be in a serious relationship with someone who’s somewhat financially responsible (read: less impulsive). 😉 )but ya know, i think cappy makes a lot of sense here. my point is, even a “restricted” woman can ride the “carousel” once or twice, and if the primary sticking point is riding at all, then unrestricted vs.’d choose the lady of winterfell (what’s her name again? the ones with the highest smv are the biggest losers, oddly enough.@rambleyou are right, my appeal to males has not been consistent over time.”i can’t speak for the other guys, but i’ve never “dumped” a woman in my entire life. it amazes me sometimes how resilient we adult children of troubled individuals can be. and it appears to be pretty great for him too. the majority of college age women went for older guys out of college then who does that leave for the college guys? course, this is all just based on a few long comments by her (and sometimes reading between the lines), so maybe she’s totally different than how she strikes the guys here. gold[–]thegarp 55 points56 points57 points 1 year ago (9 children)i was 31 at the time, divorced. and that young men are right to slum-it-up in their twenties playing video-games, then wreck havoc on the smp when they get their turn to. goldload more comments (1 reply)[–]thecoffeetoy 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (1 child)hi there. once i was at a party at a frat house and i heard muffled pleas for help from a closet in the kitchen. hope so, but at the end of the day, right now we prioritize something other than ourselves, our company, and its hard to know how long it will last. so if only one person in the entire world sees something i post and changes for the better, i’ve done more than i set out to do from the start. personally, i can see why someone might communicate that adage, but, i don’t find it to be all that helpful (sure, sometimes it applies, but, so often, it does not). at some point will stop eating, but the drinking will continue. that women’s preferences shift more towards dads than cads as they get older (and incidently less attractive)?“looking at the male attractiveness graph, is there a cutoff? and on the flipside, why spend more time than the hours of 11 pm to 9 am with a girl who isn’t going to sleep with you? if he were, he probably wouldn’t have talked to me or hit on me whatsoever. i was extremely uncomfortable, even as my friends were squeezing my hands and blinking back tears. in general, dating games are rather boring to a guy who’s probably had his fair share. but calling such men fat and ugly, and how his wives wouldn’t put out for him and that’s why he keeps getting divorced, probably isn’t going to help attract many women to men like this. my daughter was 21, she had a summer internship in dc. they, in their collective hivemind, know what they are doing. i dropped out of my university engineering program because the campus became hell on earth, to me. i have 11% body fat and most people i meet think im in my early 40`s. know a couple girls that have similar complaints of not meeting guy, despite very active efforts. he was in a shit ton of debt, still lived with his mama, all of his paychecks would go to his bills and whatever was left would go to pot (he had a serious dependency), we would split our dates fifty/fifty but most times i would end up paying the whole thing [despite him making 3 times what i was]. drop her and let her find some guy who appreciates what she may have to offer.! i generally go back and forth, depending on my settlement locations. i like seeing the responses of the men who find her endearing, ie.@just1z“i wonder what the women here think of the cappy cap link?.one commenter even gloating about cheating on his so with other women from time to time. can we not give men some credit for being able to date casually without becoming unstrung? should donate their wonderful clear genes to me, as mine are tainted and i really want kids. she is 8 years my junior, so i think i did pretty good. mind you, this was after the former story so i was probably not escalating.@hansolo, tedhere is a quote for you both:one idea/lights a thousand candles–ralph waldo emerson. i’m saying the attitude and opinion she expressed is one of the reasons why. you know how i am about being around people and being noticed. i’m pretty restricted myself, and i forced myself to get involved with some unrestricted women to become less judgmental. how many times have we heard guys say “sloppy seconds” here? in an smp as neurotic and frenzied as that of nyc, however, both men and women need to present a complete, full-featured package right out of the gate or they will probably find it difficult to get any traction. but it costs money to visit japanese festivals/finnish fortresses/lithuanian theme parks, so i need to focus on cash after all. one thing i want to write about more is how women can be high quality as potential mates.*make sense = i have no idea what i was thinking. there has to be some kind of detente from one side or the other to resolve this. i know that this has been said quite a few times before, but it’s always worth repeating.: “would you say, then, that men can express disgust at fat and ugly women, but women cannot ever do so about men?@pvwsusan, why would they feel off limits to the restricted guys? gold[–]lordsyyn 20 points21 points22 points 1 year ago (2 children)if you're both happy, then maybe you should try and find out why you have those insecurities. is generally very positive about the appearances of average-looking men. that khal, who was basically ass raping his wife, fell for her the minute she showed tenderness and requested intimacy. gee, i don’t know, maybe because not everyone goes to grad school at mit.@zach then she said all she could think about was the eighth grade term “sloppy seconds” and if i was going to tell my friends we went to second base. the sex is great, there’s honesty-without-drama and i find it really refreshing. three of them followed that scenario in their early twenties and married well in their late 20s and early 30s. he's great with my kids, loves my autistic son and his challengers, and cherishes my tween girl even when we both want to throttle her and her hormones. but as long as he keeps adjusting the age of his women up to compensate his aging, dating will become easier and easier. goldload more comments (1 reply)load more comments (10 replies)[–]captncheerio 28 points29 points30 points 1 year ago* (0 children)my boyfriend is 10 years older than me.“there is a social and sexual cost to being smart and studious for a boy that is much higher than that for a girl. peej, the reason that you are repeatedly banned is because you:1) make a few sane comments – people think that you are not as bad as they had been told. mostly because i’m not sure that really works that well. we were there for 4 months before he admitted that he had a massive crush on me for 5 years and was just waiting for me to leave my boyfriend. many women’s faces don’t develop and look good til out of their teens. this is based on the idea that people are foremost autonomous individuals with their own needs and wants, and they should be free to satisfy their preferences as they see fit. or have had it easy at any point leading up to their (potentially) newfound status bump?”and that’s too bad, because instead of making things better, it’s wallowing in the status quo. if my husband told me he was going to miss me at work, i’d be alarmed. most of my male friends have never said anything like that.@ intj:did meet this girl during astronomy study group but turned out she had a boyfriend.)it is not an accident that the queen bees mainstream media ostracized them.’d rather give myself a mental illness than to put so much effort into “living in harmony” with my emotions. i mean, by definition, half of all girls, in any population, are going to be below average in the looks dept.” the other dumped her bf of 2 1/2 years when she went abroad because she wanted to hook up with foreign guys, and was extremely pissed to find out he had a new gf when she came back (as she’d expected him to wait around). it's true that he's old enough to be my grandfather, we've gotten that comment so many times haha. you’ve done so well for yourself and your family though. truth is, the places it seems to show the most make life interesting. you have a lot to offer, you just need to understand your target market (it’s not 25 year old men! still, were the 3s, 4s and 5s in missouri getting all those dates on the weekend, or was it more something you saw in your (above average) sorority? better to marry someone closer in age, because chances are that you will end up spending more time together with the one that you love. yeah, i agree that a divorced guy might not be an ideal bet, but as a formerly divorced and now remarried man, i’d at least say don’t discount a guy simply because he couldn’t make it work with some other woman. i’d like to think that men eventually grow out of their desire to date the stupid bleached blonde with the fake boobs and high pitched giggle. i told her she got no nookie without a commitment, and she agreed. because that is the age range i find most attractive, and since i’m the one doing the work, it’s up to me to choose my target. i think 26-30 is when are most attractive…they are still young, handsome, and virile, while maturing and developing those “dad” traits many women look for in a husband. and it was nbd, just a chance to get to know someone and have fun. – “i current;y have 234 emails which i’m really not interested in reading. time i see a cartoon by that person, whoever it is, i think “bitchy girl who deserves to be alone.“can we not give men some credit for being able to date casually without becoming unstrung?@susan:“moving east was the best thing that ever happened to me – i didn’t have to compete with california girls anymore. which is kind of like what you’re doing but involves me working all weekend because i took on too much work 18 months ago.@ramble“i am also a fan of seeing shorter guys, in pop culture, having a more difficult time with taller girls because that is something we see in real life”i’d settle for them even being shown on television in the first place and not be disabled, criminal, evil, abusive etc. if following a script when physical intimacy happens before emotional intimacy isn’t yielding the results you seek, then try another way! he wasn’t perfect (see john snow) but he was a man of honor and character, a benevolent alpha. sex life (and i believe this is true for most guys) is just so important to me that i can’t commit without some indication of how it’s going to be.@zachi thought of you when writing this post, knowing full well that you’ve got women after you now who would do better to go older, and you’ll also have women after you in 10 years when you’re ready to settle down. an alternative view to the beta provider bait and switch gambit. would break up with a girlfriend for cheating on me. you should at least give her chance before breaking up, imo. out that the joke was because she was 17 at the time. there was little to no resentment of their previous flings, as their husbands had made the rounds as well. we don't want to be shoving our way through a bunch of sweaty people to get them. i love talking to people who i click with and being a great friend to your significant other is one of the most important things i think. believe that robert downey jr is in a similar boat. all the females who commented on not being able to be attracted to an older man when you were say, 18-22 (i believe pvw, madison and a few others said this):a friend of mine, when she was 19, had a stint where she not going to college…she sorta took a year off. i would say get comfortable first, get intellectually and emotionally close, and then see how sensual you can get. it was almost as if experiencing enough pain to think about suicide was a benefit because it put things in context and made me not just change my life for the better, but change my life so it fit into reality. i would rather have the quietest, most subtle wedding before the child is born, than have a huge shindig wedding with a 9 month old in tow.“he’s a member of your tribe, she’s not.@ramblei’m not sure what you’re after…you had a bunch of pretty gfs in hs and then you did not have one average or below average sister in your sorority (“none were below a 6″). to zach’s girl, i just can’t figure how anything that happened between them had anything to do with “sloppy seconds”. this month i’m going to shave it all clean, and see if any comments are made, or if i see any indication at all that she misses it. that’s the manosphere myth – the notion that a woman is likely to cuckold or cheat with some more alpha male during ovulation. for fun sounds very much like using other people for your entertainment.”i repeat: 😯 for those yearning for a throwback to an earlier era, back then people went on dates all the time– usually with a different person each day! in other words, the women like them better if they expect the women to be somewhat submissive.@jpi think the hus record for most comment in a single thread sits around 2600, iirc. i look at the ideal, see how “real life” differs from it, and try to figure out how to push “real life” in the direction of the ideal.@rambleas you can see, men tend to focus on the youngest most fertile womeninteresting, while i was researching this post i came across a raging debate among evo psychologists. too often, we spend so much time thinking about what we want that we forget to think about what we have to give. it just so happens that they’ve noticed that this result comes more often if they assume a dominant position and demand submissiveness. and clearly a woman who is younger than him is going to be just that, unless he is extremely good looking. i’m 32 but constantly get told that i look in the mid-20s.@ olive:it’s not that a girl would necessarily be disgusted by an unrestricted guy’s past, but perhaps she would not be comfortable moving as quickly as other girls had been, and that would turn the guy off, or make him think she was weird. don’t worry, not all finance guys are dbag frat boys just like not all fashion women are ditzy elitist materialistic hyper-consuming solipsistic entitled trust fund princesses with art history degrees from expensive ne private colleges with 60% acceptance rates. i’m pretty much a 1 on a scale from 1 to 5 when it comes to restricted vs. it goes strictly against deti’s lectures last week – perhaps you didn’t agree with him about a woman following her husband and putting his career first? i have been reading about how female attraction triggers change as women mature, and they become less impulsive. because at least you tried and someone tried with you. to a parent like that, you are an angel temporarily disguised in human form. i was in therapy, i remembered a scene from my childhood. husband is a great emotional communicator and listener, nf type, and he had a bad bout of depression in college as well.., nice stable providers) after the young women are done giving the best of themselves to the hot fuck material is a grave insult. my parents were married at 20 and 32, but waited 7 years to have kids. i wouldn’t mind “i can’t stop thinking about you! openly admit that i moved to my current city to be with my bf; the original plan was to join the peace corpsolive, i am not sure if you have regrets about missing out on the peace corp, but, i had a few friends join the peace corp, one went to south america and the other (an engaged couple) went to west africa (maybe cameroon, i am not sure). certainly wasn’t any second wave feminism in my worldview. for a tv show/movie to show a girl being dumped specifically due to weight gain, was your hope right? by starting families in their thirties, forties and beyond, men could be increasing the chances that their children will develop autism, schizophrenia and other diseases often linked to new mutations. gold[–]sairyn 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (12 children)we were in the same atheist group for our area for about six months. you troll here, at rollo’s and and at manboobz? my opinion of that is: “screw the investors” who is more important, them or you? was dead nervous to reveal my boyfriend’s age to my parents, so much so that i stalled introducing them for six months. for example, nat turner and his supporters killed a lot of innocent people, and that was very wrong. his daughter ends up being played by a cad who used the lessons directly from her dad’s blog. while i certainly do respect and appreciate his ability to do that, i wouldn’t say that he dominates me. i think of a ltr, i think of someone who i feel safe around, comfortable showing my true self. most guys in their 50s dont have what it takes to pull an alec baldwin, fact., if i did go workout, assuming that this was, say, a 45 minute workout, by the tie i got back and showered, it would basically be bedtime.”yes, the stakes keep getting higher and higher, and the numbers more and more disadvantageous to women. of course, lately i’ve been working at a client location an hour away, so my morning “thinking” time has been lacking. i bet his wives won’t put out for him. i have some friends who are in relationships just to be in one, or for the sex, and it honestly repulses me. however, a relatively high percentage of these 30-something men are ambivalent or averse to marrying anytime soon.’m aware that he will probably never move back to the east coast, and i sometimes feel like i’m constantly straddling the line between doing everything i can to succeed in my career and maintaining my relationship. think the problem is that zach’s girl does not know how to convey sensuality at all., the ring was considered “a gift given in consideration of marriage. 2009summary and conclusionby bringing fathers into the family, marriage allows to increase parental investment in children. most single guys that age, while more financially stable than guys in their 20s and 30s, aren’t wealthy enough to pull off such a feat., j had the wherewithal and feminine wiles to dodge that bullet. i have not heard from chuck (who has my number, and easily could have asked about my roommates interest) or dan." for your date with an older gent: as cool as it is, not everyone needs to know that you were part of an nsync fan club (cough cough).)yes, it’s the same problem as the alpha/beta dichotomy. kind of explained the relationship arc that i noticed that i generally experienced in terms of intensity of experience. i am somewhat curious as to why that behaviour happens. the rule of half your age +7 the question of age difference for mating can be a controversial one. we are advising her here, don’t fall into the trap of giving her advice that benefits men. my reply is, okay, so what tangible results do you have to show for your efforts? he thought i was 6-7 years older than i am. be among those unmarried men most ready to commit to marriage. i'm a male, so maybe this is different, but it becomes extremely difficult being 2 generations removed from your dad. ok cupid data on desirability by age as you can see, male desirability peaks at 26 and stays strong until about 30, at which point it decreases rapidly. gold[–]mojavered 38 points39 points40 points 1 year ago (14 children)when we met, yes, though the relationship didn't start at that time. at that point, she had said he was so nice and funny (he really was a cool guy) but i had no idea if she was interested in him romantically. obviously that doesn’t work so well, at least not without a heavy dose of something alpha to offset the “ick” factor., this site sometimes has in my view its posts kewed or flawed, and, as i mentioned before, many a comment unnecessarily vulgar (vulgarity killed the cat), but it is essentially well intentioned. us on facebookfollow us on twitterfollow us on pinterestfollow us on instagramget the newsletteryour daily dose of the latest in fashion, beauty, and entertainment--delivered straight to your 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(granted, her older sister was kinda slutty, so, you can’t win them all.>> “i am very open to a ltr especially if i hit it off with someone. human beings are naturally motivated to assert their values; to think their values are best; and to be intolerant of people with opposite values. there are girls my age that would take a 35-40 year old but they are not a numerous bunch. to me, it's not the age gap that matters but the actual ages when you first became a couple. make take time for them to find for their niche and meet the right person, but most restricted folks are happy with their choice.@coopcooper, i just got back from the gym and i saw a guy there who reminded me of you. think you know it when you are with someone you can see as your lifelong mate, and i believe in that intuition. i’ve said that when i was single i probably would have fallen in the middle somewhere. don’t doubt that you are right about what a modern ltr means in practice. campaign against living miserably is a charity in the uk that attempts to highlight this issue for public discussion.@bastiat“jackie, that’s one of my favorite movie scenes! i totally get how male validation motivates women to hook up – i am lucky that wasn’t the norm when i was 18. focus my emotions and energies on my husband, mil, our baby, and female friends. younger woman, older man thing will always raise brows from both sexes due to jealousy. these terms are useful shorthand, but the reality is a spectrum with infinite increments. gold[–]amandapanda2784 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (4 children)how do you remind him of that? truth is, i dislike promiscuous behavior in men and women. she has a reputation of being hard to get and assumes that other guys will ask how far he got with her.. is a girl more important that the things you are passionate about? in fact, borg et al have done some research which hints at cultural factors also being able to modulate this response. as your friend’s buddy, your job is to help him get laid (or get the girl, whichever). you don’t see too many tropes of marrying the middle-class guy and living “frugally ever after” ha ha! a pointer: i found myself talking way too much about bipolar several weeks ago, so i found a subreddit dedicated specifically to people with bipolar. compare and contrast her photos: google “ellen barkin” and then google “young ellen barkin”. bastiat’s suggestion of a kindler, gentler carousel might be just the trick for charlotte.”can’t he just set the portfolio on “auto-trade” using some quant-provided mathematical algorithm and just let it run? here’s how it stacks up: note that the peak of physical attractiveness is from 25-30.”i think you may perceive it that way, but that isn’t where i am coming from. historically, most of the people that today don’t want kids would have had them anyway due to no birth control and other factors. the upshot is women leave college at their peak smv but men still have five more grueling years of proving themselves before they even approach theirs.“you’re not explaining why she looks at sex through the prism of a 7th grader. the cosmetic company benefit has a new product called the perk up artist. i couldn’t provide as much help as i liked. we had the blessing of a civil marriage at my parish church. clearly he's into you, just like you are to him. he was merely questioning why a bunch of “pious” christians would cheer lead for players. apparently what we think of an ltr is a “mini-marriage” where you pledge fidelity indefinitely, and perhaps have some major deal-breakers like “cheating”, where you break up. that makes it seem completely futile to think one can change ‘how it is,’ or chance being an exception.@escoffier“well, passer-by, if you want to have that argument all over again . from what charlotte has said, i see no indication she would do so. gold[–]probablyeatingtacos 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)i'm 21 and my boyfriend is 30. i also recall being shocked by some of the pairings – girls i thought were 4s getting together with guys who were easily 6s, and not just for sex.“i’m wondering if she got “sloppy seconds” somehow mixed up with “second base” because she was worried zach would be bragging that he got that far. but again, to me it is nothing more than an excuse. i hated every minute of it but it was necessary. we just liked being around each other more than it bothered us. just move together based on whoever finds their job first, or has the best likelihood for success.”your 23-24, i’m 2-3 years older than you depending on the time of year. goldload more comments (1 reply)load more comments (1 reply)load more comments (7 replies)load more comments (1 reply)[–]blbd 101 points102 points103 points 1 year ago (7 children)don't worry all of us act like we're 5 anyways. he was extremely prone to jealousy – our whole relationship was high drama. think those of you who think zach is dumping her for not having sex right away are completely missing the point. goldload more comments (4 replies)[–]imentet 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (1 child)my girlfr.…for men, 40 seems an obvious tipping point and it’s earlier than that if someone isn’t involved with anyone.@ramblein that particular case, i would still quietly take care of the marriage certificate asap. some guys didn’t seem to like it but tons of girls thought he was hot, regardless. one is the “don’t sleep with him until you’re dating”. there are plenty of 30+ men who would have no problem taking the ltr dating path with a young women with her shit squared away. not many men want to get married at 40, with only 5. what your doing by suggesting that a relationship can end for any reason might sound great in theory but it does not occur in the real world. don’t know why it’s surprising or objectionable that people’s tastes would mature as they aged. i don’t really know anyone that launched immediately into a ltr. i’m not knocking that stuff necessarily, but i’m 100% sure i’m not interested. red head fire chick who has smoke baby demons come out of her vagina. i was in college in the 70s, here is what was perfectly normal and appropriate…. the man i married at twenty was a brilliant, morbid, handsome, abnormal creature with magnificent eyes and very white teeth and no particular appetite at mealtime. maybe he should start going for hot 30-35 girls, right, or maybe even women closer to his age?”then all relationships would end, as soon as you eventually ran into someone hotter, by design or accident.@susan“that’s the manosphere myth – the notion that a woman is likely to cuckold or cheat with some more alpha male during ovulation. more comments (2 replies)load more comments (18 replies)load more comments (1 reply)[+][deleted] 1 year ago (1 child)[deleted]. goldload more comments (1 reply)load more comments (7 replies)[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (0 children)my heart is bursting from joy. there is no way you can discern that without dating them first. i’d hate to have a record at cps of all the times i threatened to “kill” my kids or at the da’s of my saying something like, “dh cheat? last week he was with a late 30’s hot japanese woman. or more specifically, the nuns teaching at catholic school didn’t appreciate my attitude…. i don't try to weird him out about it by bringing up things like "hey, did you know when i was in kindergarten you were driving. i don’t think their entitled to either of those outcomes, it’s just simply *why* their going on dates. more comments (1 reply)[–]little_shirley_beans 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)my boyfriend is 10 years older than me., but i’m not feeling it, so cut him off after two slow dances. (aside: i appreciate my luddite father right now, since i would feel extremely weird reading any hus comments he would have!*i bet if there was a guy who looked like a carbon copy of him, who was just a regular guy of awesome character who truly loved his family and adored his wife, we’d all be swooning. his “maturity” is not a plus unless it affords the woman something she can’t get from a guy her own age or a bit older.”my lord i hope no one here is trying to use me as an example of holy or something. i only do unto others, as i’d have them unto me.@zachone quick point about dating older men is that the older men may not always want to date a younger woman. ”nothing says “i’m a huge winner in life” like going onto the internet to brag to a bunch of anonymous strangers about sexual conquests. if you know you’ll be moving in 4 years, does it matter if your mate will as well? those yearning for a throwback to an earlier era, back then people went on dates all the time– usually with a different person each day!”they seem to have taken something you wrote to suggest that every person in a non-marital ltr is in constant “trade up at the first opportunity” mode.! and that's coming from the straight man who never questioned his gender identity who is also the manliest man of the world.@cooper“so, if the girls can get them, why not? 😉this reminds me of another example of how history was unkind to beta males. 😉susan – “if my husband told me he was going to miss me at work, i’d be alarmed”don’t take this the wrong way, but that statement made me feel very sad for you. so, because a woman “matures” into wanting a beta provider, it is no longer considered “bait and switch”. i’m not one for hip swaying or public displays, and i’m very stiff when it comes to kino with strangers. you can’t dodge this by redefining it to be college-educated only, unless you want to admit that you never talk to men without college. i am just so busy with my own life right now, that i have to be a little selfish. wish i could set up a flirtation/sensuality seminar or something.’ve sadly watched two of my very good friends ruin really great relationships because they were on the hunt for something else, “just to make sure this relationship is what i want. after dalrockgate and the sphere’s targeting of me in general, i resolved to continue to help men in my own way, independent of them, whether they like it or not. even her grandmother doesn’t see it as something immoral. goldload more comments (2 replies)[–]barnabeejones 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)my fiancé is 11 years older than me., while the manosphere can complain about the smp today in comparison to the monogamy of recent history, they should remember that for much of ancient history omegas and deltas would have much bigger problems than getting laid. but i was mortified to have it played so casually like that in front of a bunch of people at a party! i’ll admit that zach’s descriptions of this woman have me finding her endearing, and i don’t know a damn thing about her. because that is the age range i find most attractive, and since i’m the one doing the work, it’s up to me to choose my target. his lover briefly left him after he was discovered to have had an earlier relationship with a minor student. i didn’t realize that i had a vitamin d deficiency, caused by too many months of no sunlight. we were having a good time and he decided to give an impromptu concert! this type of story is gold for women’s fiction, ie.@intj“did meet this girl during astronomy study group but turned out she had a boyfriend. and intj have united to form the united moral alliance against marginally or improperly moral people.“that assumes that all women or most women give their sexuality to bums, and i’ve just spent six months driving the final nail into that coffin. while our relationship is fairly egaliatarian, i have repeatedly described my husband as a socially dominant individual who exerts his dominance over the business world in such a way as it produces resources for our family. they just have not found the right woman yet and will keep trying until they do.’m honored to have the prevailing mating strategy of a generation named after me.”this i agree with, if you’re limiting your comments to ron perelman.’s = secret crush on her (even rollo can’t resist and comes sniffing around here!

Would you date someone who was 10 years older/younger than you

“most people do get that gold diggers aren’t into much older men’s looks. gold[–]dracinia 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (1 child)this is how my parents, who were 35 years apart, met each other too! but at least you grasp the radical notion that others may not think and feel exactly like you do at all times., jackie, tons of guys go whiteknighting thinking that this is the path to success and then become crestfallen when they see the girl with the guy in that shitty band. it could have simply been a nervous slip of the tongue…. also, because he was not attracted to monica when she was heavier. while cliché dictates that, sure, men are into it, there’s been some recent research done about why younger females often gravitate toward mature men.”the latter can take care of themselves but i think you owe it to the former either to make your intentions clear or else to just avoid them. for me, 10 to 15 minutes of that is more than enough, and then we better be taking off clothes, or i’ll need to go vent some pent up frustration soon. even so hubby doesn’t has diabetes his family doesn’t develop it for some reason probably lifestyle choices and i won’t get it till i’m in my 60’s or if i become overweight, the kid was not born with it so this is something he will need to be careful but is not damning. goldload more comments (1 reply)[–]adeadpixel 26 points27 points28 points 1 year ago (7 children)my partner is 29 years older than me. i said in the post, the women i know in their 20s are not typically interested in men even 10 years older. zach mentioned she is fairly conservative, so she needs to find her niche. or from resentful men who were never called to form part of it. deti november 27, 2012 at 2:37 pm hope: i’m not here to gain points with the manosphere. those who worry about falling short are often more devout. don’t expect any major changes here, but i’m curious if she will notice. in some ways i get on better with my grandma. i love how he talks about missing girls, just looking at them since he never had any action., forgive me if i misinterpreted what you said, but you seemed to say that since customes and mores are observably variable across cultures, that proves that there is no truth or right. its pretty much impossible for me to divorce a religious wife as it would never proceed that far.@zach:“obviously charles manson is an extreme example, but it’s absolutely true. very few couples maintain that excitement for a long period of time… though some manage it for a lifetime. woman zach is seeing has been burned by someone, and he’s the rebound. however, we had those shameful traditions more than thousand years ago – it’s shocking to learn that there are countries were last such practices were just what, 25 years ago?@ escoffieri said much the same thing at dalrock’s–that players need to be shamed along with sluts–and the religious party came after me as if i were the anti-christ. i actually think that could dissuade a man more than anything if the girl is like an instant cling-on, talking about their future together from the start. i have a friend who can can do that, she does it all the time mildly, but can amp it up.: we feel the same way; because i didn’t feel mature enough, it seemed wierd that a man that old had an interest in me and that i should be interested in him for that reason. i would wager that the average length of an ltr from age 18-28 is well under a year. i’m certainly not thinking in my head, “oh you are just boyfriend number one of x amount,” if i really do like them, of course i would fantasize a bit about our future. writing love songs and poetry for women has been a hobby of mine since middle school.”ok so my references and humor went over the heads of everyone here, even my fellow desis? but if you really feel it let your so know it, don’t just assume they do. so, to you the ‘average’ woman with a few flings under her belt is normal, to me she might as well have an n of 20. there was one point that even i was tempted to say, “hey, welmer, i can sympathize with the raw deal you got in family court, but this guy makes me want to ensure that all children come from anonymous sperm donors in the future! some people are just super clingy in relationships, and it works for them. i also shake my head at people who talk about skydiving…. you’d have to revoke suffrage, uninvent birth control, and criminalize abortion. heck, they will probably ditch me first anyways if they feel i’m not all that into it. given that fact, one might expect that the men, ages 30 to 34, in this survey sample. i mean, how many range rovers can one woman drive? had to show up at wharton early with about 50 other students to take calculus for dummies. i know it is impossible to really “know” what goes through mens minds, but you have so much insight. it’s an opportunity to explore how compatible you are with another person. he has expressed more than a few times that “there really is no point to life.@ charlotte:i’m pretty much in line with susan’s advice. i’m just encouraging women to broaden the net and not be suspicious of men a bit older, who have some advantages. modern ltr, those dealbreakers can be *anything* (including the best one – “i found someone better”), heck, they can change from moment to moment. but she was also incredibly frugal and did not indulge me., i’ve seen the opposite in the case of divorce and break up of very long term relationships, but we’ll have to agree to disagree., i’m not saying fake it as a game technique though. i want neither of those things from him, so i shouldn’t lead him on. i should know they are the ltr guy for me immediately? i’m also pointing out that a sizable number of the men in the 80%, the betas, deltas and gammas, and the betas susan says she wants women to meet, date and marry, are going to resemble perelman physically (short, fat and physically unattractive) even if they don’t resemble his personality. yeah, but it puts him on the spot and you read his immediate reaction to figure out what’s up. in market terms you want to buy when the price is low, and when your own purchasing power is the highest.’s possible be generous and loving to a man without being submissive. he ages, like a fine wine, his awesomeness will increase somehow, as if by magic and he will be the target of a massive unplanned intragirl war, out of which he will emerge the victor and the older cohort of girls will lose, finding themselves relegated to men under the age of 25 in despair. reminds me of the convo about deception vs deliberate omission of truth. like i mentioned earlier, explicitness usually doesn’t do anything for me. so, it’s not that i hate or dislike that part, it’s just warm and fuzzy rather than fun and exciting. is how a lot of my girlfriends got their relationships, after they got fed up with the bleak “dating” scene and terrible dating prospects at school. not the vibe, not his friend rushing him to leave, not what chuck said about his interest in you. we struck it off amazingly- something from storybooks almost, and we've been together for three years now. did have the power to re-arrange my curriculum at will and go on field trips with impunity, which was a perk. i already know the smp sucks, i don’t see any point in keening and wailing over it. and to be honest, the music stuff was one of my best methods for generating interest. that being said, we get plenty of out of town kids here, and perhaps it is this way for them. you ever really had to work at anything –i mean, in regards to developing a skill– where there has been no immediate payoff? my last boyfriend did that a lot, and i found that it grated on my nerves a lot.@ passer_bycrap, now i have to rush home quicky and have my wife take care of this raging hard on you just me. if the only reason a person quashes limerance is out of some paper that says “you’re married’ thats infinitely less meaningful than because… well you know… you actually want to make the person next to you happy. it sounds like zach’s date is absolutely not going to wake up the morning after sex and shrug off talk of a relationship.” but “i miss you” implies some sort of need that is not being met. even then we’re not talking your average umc gent who’s divorced his wife. thread just took a major detour into a very strange place. but i worry that 30 year old guys, and even 27 year old guys, are afraid of younger women because their mo is to settle down and get married in the next few years, and a girl who is 21 or 23 wouldn’t want to do that? had i been exposed to those blogs before i started dating, i never would have dated. india, having sex with a woman by falsely saying you will marry her is considered rape. i will only offer a counterexample, until then:if i remember correctly, susan had some less than flattering things to say about lena dunham’s appearance in “tiny furniture” before ld’s show “girls” had started. should think of susan herself being ahead of her time, and us being far behind ours.” it’s probably what i deserve for hanging around the manosphere too long, because i become very… dark… after too much “women are only fit to belong to men and carry their offspring and this is the only way civilization can happen and now it’s broken and once more they’ll be crawling to us” talk and then i want to eat myself to death again., but this is not a committed relationship, this is date three. i know that this has been said quite a few times before, but it’s always worth repeating., since coming here, i have heard it used quite a few times. in fact, i almost think that is a “tell” that they are surely the opposite. the question is whether an unrestricted man would be willing to work with it or not. isn’t that what the crowd at a certain other blog condemns susan for advocating? that its more based on routine, boredom and actually caring about the other person and not the kicks you get being around them. from “i’m so into you” to “too hip, gotta go! what, you think i’m not lying, and not secretly using birth control myself? it took five years of programming as a teenager before i could take freelance jobs on the open market. i do think that you speak for the majority of women wrt male age.”not to beat a dead horse, it’s just that her sexuality was most valued when she gave it to the bum, and now she wants the most valuable period of the responsible guy’s life. i may miss out on some good people on occasion, but i don’t want many friends anyway. in the manosphere would not say that they want submissive women. you know how it goes: the more manic you are, the more you don’t need to sleep, and the more manic you become. (i probably have the details wrong here but…)so, you being restricted still have some historical pock marks, but you seem to be saying “if you guys would just lay off the real sluts, the rest of us women out here are just lovely.” the attitude i adopted was, if he doesn’t want me, then i don’t want him.)i’ve come to expect that the restricted girl i’m lookin for may very likely seem like this.”it was a fake number, which is what made it so funny. that’s really all i’ve been saying charlotte should do but you’ve responded as if i were making some paleolithic demand., men are making “ugly and fat” comments about women all the time online. even the most restricted girl person in the world will want some small amount of escalation, otherwise why bother? know this firsthand, as i’m 25 years old, and i’ve been dating an older guy nearly 15 years my senior for almost four years. time and circumstance being chaotic, two of those 4 relationships ended before marriage, and one 12 years after marriage. but he has some 20 kids spread around the world and he never payed child-support. the hell of uni that was going through was also my parents exercising their control of my life via finances. two guys behind the deli counter gave me free food! i had been working at a place for 5 months when she arrived, and at the time we both had significant others but i was in the process of breaking up with mine.. i do doubt though that, were i a healthy and fit 70 year old, that i’d want to take on the health problems of an 80 year old guy. you get the “ted d almost spit his coffee all over his desk” award for today. she’s just a) not accustomed to or interested in a luxurious lifestyle or b) not able to identify with most women’s preferences. there seems to be a pattern here… ;dfew guys have any interest in being pretty. long as you are neurochemically high, so to speak, it’s hard to see how you figure this out. two guys behind the deli counter gave me free food! find it difficult to explain to people how my relationship came to be. it reminds me of that horrible incident between roosh and that female dc blogger – he wound up posting details about their sex life, ugh. aggregate a lot men with a lot of bad experiences here. my bf and i own the game now, but we don’t get to play much, since you need three people and all. claims about women wanting hypermasculine men during ovulation are bogus. goldload more comments (8 replies)[–]ragingcluepromotions 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (21 children)i'll take your word on the first 2 for sure but not the third one. there doesn’t seem to be anyone pushing them toward the altar anyway. i hate just the idea of dating and plate spinning, and going out with different guys in one week.”i don’t really even know what people here mean when they speak about female solipsism. in fact, regional differences could explain megaman’s observations about the smp there.“in india, having sex with a woman by falsely saying you will marry her is considered rape. have no quarrel with that demand, it is very reasonable.@swone guy told me to take off my clothes, and i promptly went to the bathroom and changed into my pjs, lol! is this something you see in a lot of men, or just a few that are at the ends of the bell curve of the ones you’ve dated? now if i know the girl very well as well, i probably will just keep my mouth shut and not lie. “too many men will look at these comments and say “see? at graduation we were still talking shit and busting on each other like none of us was moving far, far away (we all did). i am curious if there’s a heritable genetic difference btw people that actively want kids and those that don’t.””what sw really means:“again to reiterate, i am not suggesting that women don’t date cooper, but if cooper is consistently unwilling to settle down or commit, i’m just encouraging women to broaden the net and not be suspicious of men who are willing to commit and may have some advantages over cooper. yeah, but it puts him on the spot and you read his immediate reaction to figure out what’s up. a man 10 years older and you could be in for a 20+ year widowhood.@ ramblei always tell scared guys to start talking to everyone (minus children). those guys will not have the provider/income progression nor the social skills progression (charm and confidence) that you are gaining now. i rarely get to talk to people like that because they’re already on dialysis at that point, so they don’t need my help. and lots of times it only lifts the spirits of the one party. a vast majority of college aged women (18-23yo) don’t give two shits about finding their future husband, and won’t even start to look at the ‘provider’ role until about 23yo. again, this would be a guy who at oldest is 25, not a guy who is 30 and is either a guaranteed player or either really looking to settle down and get married asap. when we see a guy in his 30s, we assume he could obviously be married right now if he wanted, so he must be choosing to play the field indefinitely. women want young dads just a bit older than they are. i can’t promise i’d take the “higher” path in the eyes of humanity, but my solution would work. i’ve never ever heard that meme in any other country or culture. i remember one guy i dated a few times – i told him that i’d gotten into wharton and that i would be moving back east to go to business school. did you actually notice that he might have been crushing on you ever so slightly before he actually burst open with his declaration of undying and eternal j love? i’ve randomly picked up a guitar or sat down at a random piano and just started playing so many times in mixed/unknown company that i truly couldn’t count if i wanted to. goldload more comments (3 replies)[–]thegarp 29 points30 points31 points 1 year ago (1 child)that's the story. can clarify what she meant by the perelman comment, if she meant him physically or what is known about his personality. are plenty of late 20’s, early 30’s guys i find attractive, but i wouldn’t feel confident in dating somebody who was much older. and tons of employers, believe it or not, were very impressed by my acceptance to the prestigious program. petraeus was one of the nominally most powerful men in the world..Jp – yeah but you are literally sticking it to the “man” when you sue the fed. believe me, it’s very, very easy to take 5 second to take a girl’s number. don’t see the problem with charlotte’s perspective, as long as she’s not back here to complain about getting “played” by a non-serious guy she caught feelings for after the fact. yet, despite the fact that the ancient hebrews succeeded in a scenario that most guys can only fantasize about while playing wow, there is so much anti-semitism in the ‘sphere. for all we know, she was misinformed and ignored at those “peak ages” as well. i also have single pals in that age group who’re trying to differentiate themselves from the rest of the pack. if a quality is intrinsic, why would it ever need to be announced…it actually has the opposite effect…”i always shake my head when i see or hear a woman identify herself as “independent”.’s a staple of english lit, however, though the penalties were civil rather than criminal.” i was thinking you were like 5’0″ or something from your posts! and there are future coopers competing for the same girls as i currently am, always been always will be! there was the guy (and his son) who came out gay and broke up the family. it’s understandable that female intrasexual competition will intensify if younger women put the older guys in play.. found out you were 21 and has been conditioned by feminism to believe he’d be creepy for going for you (or that you’d think he was creepy).. if you want to engage in some degrading “exotification” of my magnificent, circumcised, steely, vanilla cock, well, knock yourself out. lifting is a good example of this in terms of the physical body.@hopei have to say though that the last line of this post was my favorite., my family would bloody murder me for trying to get a divorce., that should be “clearly either your baby is a little angle or you have a lot of help from the family”. sure, a couple of them are slackers, but the vast majority of them are just about to finish school and many of them are quite intelligent and will do very well career-wise./olive – my wife and i are both kinda ‘clingy’, but we seem to take alternate turns. if you aren’t where you need to be to get what you want, make a plan and get there. it doesn’t matter if you are restricted or unrestricted. loved when hope spoke about preferring the longer distance, online dating experience because it gave her ample opportunity to understand a man before she would be too intimate with him. in college, i was engaged to a man 9 nine years my senior. anything less than that is just dating under another label.(my version is a 21st century equivalent of “dangerous liasions”– an epistolary view. when we see a guy in his 30s, we assume he could obviously be married right now if he wanted, so he must be choosing to play the field indefinitely.“i can’t imagine demanding a life experience with no heartbreak. woman voting has nothing to do with promiscuity that i can see. (kidding)actually, i think we like it after we’ve already fucked her at least a couple times, but before that, it’s only one step less frustrating than making out.’m of the opinion that the myth of the one can lead people down a path of looking for something they’ll never find.“i think it takes pretty heavy parenting to motivate through that, and a natural degree of intellectual competitiveness on the boy’s part. it’s not to say that i won’t end up married at 25 if i met the right guy tomorrow. that she isn’t just obsessed with the number 2 (damn the count from sesame street! should add that if a man must have the following to secure the unconditional love of an college-educated attractive young woman (~18-25):-above average resources compared to the us population, even though resources take decades for a man to accumulate.… your friend needs to piss someone off to get help. the first was a less-affectionate type so we weren’t a good match as has been discussed today. for how “high caliber” he was, the whole scene seems pretty juvenile and a bit shady. keep in mind that the apex of all these charts is not something to wait for; that would be relying way too much on timing, a default approach that i think younger women are finding to be unreliable at best. did have men hitting on you in junior high and hs (even though it was creepy).’s true that as a man gets older, he will have a tougher time dating 20 year olds.@saywhaatunfortunately, unless calibrated against the woman’s menstrual cycles, that doesn’t mean anything.” she should be hailed as a girlfriend-worthy material, and yet she’s being called weird. if you want a room full of cheerleaders you are free to enter the market and try your hand. the grocery store yesterday, in a 40 minute timeframe, i had 5 guys come up to me and start talking. good experience altogether (amazing students in my group), but i hated the academic component. they want to earn that show of emotion, and too many words aren’t all that helpful.?@ted dgetting to know someone may take different amounts of time depending on what you need to know. ive seen men @ late 70`s that you would guess to be @ 60, and some men at 65 look and act 78. finally j reached inside her purse, grabbed a pen and wrote a fake number a napkin.! my family lived in westwood, and i don’t think i ever saw an overweight person! as stupid as anyone who would judge a woman for being single at 40 or 30 or 22. for the girls here saying they’d never date older guys because of this and that.@intjgot doesn’t have as much nudity, but what nudity there is is of considerably higher quality 🙂one of the reasons girls had so many male fans was that it came on right after got. i know that this principle of least interest thing is not the best strategy, but it is sort of in my nature to do that., don’t walk, away from any man who wants to lock it down right away. the practices of self-sacrfice of the “most-beloved” wife and willingly burning herself together with her deceased husband are well recorded for slavic tribes and ive read at least one description of viking (granted, those were rus, so may be already slavicised)., if you went through four years of college and pretty much no guy seemed good enough for you, and the guys you know all pretty much got the message that they were not good enough for you, i’m guessing there’s your problem right there. where each blog post/rule of seduction is going to be contrasted with how the innocent daughter views it through rose-colored specs as the cad uses them against her. i don’t know if dc lawyers can pull young women if they’re high status or what, but she felt like she was being approached by middle-aged dads all the time. it’s just in the early twenties the amount of “better” men is quite significant. for you, i find it hard to believe that you were at the bottom of the pile with those luscious big brown south asian boobies and delectable chocolate nipples. – “but i was mortified to have it played so casually like that in front of a bunch of people at a party! as long as i’m getting enough response in that age bracket, why would i change?. change your mentality from what you “want” to what you “can get.😯i would say pulling a b & e is a little beyond not letting you come up for air! wasn’t talking about offending you – i know that’s damn near impossible. in addition, you had a very serious relationship end after years of being together. dunno, my brother has created an entire social world around gaming, and to this day he is far more social than i’ve ever been (and i’m the extrovert too! no “dude, you should just do such and such” or “buck up, man. i mean, how do you feel about a dealership called “honest used cars”? was an overly romantic/sentimental type, and he would tell me things that would make my skin crawl. we met online through a video game and are happily living together for a year now., i do see it as my role here to help the young’uns. only alternative i can think of is to become one of those really “emotionally in-touch” people that make me want to roll my eyes and groan when they discuss new age stuff like chakras and meditation. having said that, as long my wife was only asking me to take care of it, i could tolerate a lot. to me, tacit silence reads as :: acceptance of whatever the person is saying.(you may have noticed that if i don’t understand something is bothers the hell out of me). your “open to meeting the right person tomorrow” but telling guys “your not looking for anything serious” then those guys are the right person. is it that the restricted guys think they are unrestricted because of their sorority membership and so they avoid them?” again, my perception of the situation is that the only difference between you and the “unrestricted” girls is your actual n. he has finally found an area of interest in his major.@jackie“i am surprised that sw’s bf or sassy’s suitors did not call you out for a duel!, as a guy, i find the words “i am a very sarcastic person so someone that wants to be with me needs to take a little bit of an edge and not feel personally hurt by it” a big red flag. call me old fashioned, but i consider “bad boys” to be bums of a sort (not hobos, obviously). he is just a few years younger than my dad). day mother teresa wrestled with the idea that god had forsaken her, that jesus didn’t exist and that her work with the poor was in fact the product of her throwing her life down the shitter. and i saw more than a couple of newscasts where an awkward silence about holly petraeus’ photo made the point very clearly. you’ll more than likely met him through a social circle that you are establishing now. i can’t wait for you to meet him (not associating you with him, i just like him). if she knows she does not want a ltr right now, then she absolutely should not be accepting lots of dinners and other nights out with men picking up the check–unless she wants to reciprocate with sex, which is sort of sleazy but fair in its way. :pi dunno ana, are you sure this isn’t just more proof that the hus ladies are outliers? can’t force someone to love you, and you can’t force someone to stay with you.“i prefer to take the measure of the real world, and come up with ways of dealing with it. gold[–]kitzinger1 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago (0 children)late 80's and early 90's (90-92) were an amazing period of time. gold[–]cactuscat 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child)research it and throw statistics at them. like a commentor (i think it was marie) said upthread older men do not compete with younger men, they are in two different categories. gonna do that right now, but i wanted to comment on this:“however, studies have shown that they seek this in their partner, provided there is sexual attraction there to begin with. my problem was getting attached/obligated to a high school girlfriend who was probably too religious to be a reasonable match, but that’s a different story. recently had mentioned the vast difference between the word college and university. now i see that it’s important to reinforce that.@ramble:” still, were the 3s, 4s and 5s in missouri getting all those dates on the weekend, or was it more something you saw in your (above average) sorority? 🙁could you explain this:“besides, i was always more of an old testament kinda guy., i’m not saying these are conscious reasons why i’m dating a man quite a bit older—there have been several moments when i’ve thought that going out with someone closer to my age would be much simpler. she should be hailed as a girlfriend-worthy material, and yet she’s being called weird. she’s quite tall (5’10), quite attractive, very smart and a very informed and engaging conversationalist (we spent a good 30 minutes talking about oil prices last date). we were not very compatible, and i only would have continued hurting his feelings. it is just so fun to have a crush, and i really miss that. but, when i do it– it seems to get the guy more interested and relaxed.@rambleso, i guess my question is, outside of hus, is anyone actually incorporating this rule of thumb into their advice? yes, it’s just “one thing”, but that one thing means a lot, especially since the gen appears to kept in shape. person was asked to share their name, where they are from, and what pronoun they wish to be addressed by.“we’ll, i’m not really looking for something serious” is precisely what cads would say, afterwards, no? is declaring where her mind is as a general matter,yes she is, and that is exactly where most 21 year old women’s minds are.“another male blogger recently wrote that he wanted to take a scalpel to the faces of women who complain about sexual dry spells. i’m simply saying that you can decide to break up with your gf for gaining 10 lbs. i got asked to go grab some dogs that were freezing to death and a rescue group would pick them up from me in the morning.@otcmy personal view of a ltr includes a much deeper level of personal commitmentwhat have you promised someone in an ltr? in the 3 years we’ve been together, he got an apartment, graduated, got a good job, signed for the mortgage on the house, and became a father. 😛so i guess even though i meant it as a funny, it does have some deeper meaning i suppose. i’ve divided qualities determining male attractiveness into 3 groups:physical qualities: sexual maturity and potency, physical maturity, health and fitness level, probability of surviving through critical years of childraisingpsychological qualities: self-confidence, charm, mental sharpnessability to support a family materially: income, financial independence, social status and standing, capacity for work, ability to focus on productive activity“attractiveness” shall be defined as the sum of these three qualities. i also see how many new parents are in the same age group as us, so much so it looks to becoming the new "norm" which makes me feel better. in fact, i’d say i treated him a good deal of dignity which he seemed to appreciate. but my fiancé is super mellow, could care less what others think, and has a confidence about him. goldload more comments (1 reply)[–]caldwing 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (1 child)i can't even figure out what is confusing you.@susan:“i know you feel this way, you say this a lot, but this has not been my experience. remember when i was a little younger than charlotte and a guy invited me to see a concert, that was going to take a 3hr starlit drive though the desert to get there., other than the part about moving solely based on job location (i think you must give real thought to family location etc. we definitely need some bad boy shaming, and parents are the ones who should be doing this. it didn’t get me any male attention in high school, but the greek scene was so social i got a lot more exposure and did get some male interest. – ” it makes me really, really sad to hear that religious people told you that you were “evil”! 🙁i was being intentionally hyperbolic– you’ve never said the 5lbs part to my knowledge. so far, i have just not run into the stereotypical emo dude in my circles, lol.), while females primarily use less violent methods such as overdosing on medications.(i didn’t have this issue, i once spent 3 hours solving an incredibly complex inheritance problem from a couple years forward, while in a biology study group studying for an exam that evening. it was only until i was in my mid 20s that i felt mature enough to date more mature men in their late 20s and 30s. however, i was accepted and welcomed to the inner circle of popular girls. my aesthetician skin-person is from scottsdale, which is interchangeable with la to me– very current on trends, very “plasticky” (plastic surgery at a young age, even as a teenager 🙁 ).@ susangot doesn’t have as much nudity, but what nudity there is is of considerably higher quality 😀ah it’s all good then. witnessed the female side of these events with my girlfriends (both as dumpees and dumpers), that is most assuredly not true. you have to try different people on until you find one that is a great match. i can’t imagine demanding a life experience with no heartbreak. i clean (i was actually his house keeper for 3 years so i was well used to cleaning this house). his then followers got to divy up the captured chicks after they conquered groups and killed the men folk.@ ted d my lord i hope no one here is trying to use me as an example of holy or something. woe be to the guy who took her at word that she wasn’t looking for something too serious and just wants to date and have some fun and butterflies, if she decides she caught feelingsyeah, i think you’re reading between the lines. out is truly nothing but a cock tease to most guys. we met in an aol chat room back in 1993; married in 1995, he died in 2009. gold[–]dramboxf 32 points33 points34 points 1 year ago (6 children)i moved from tucson to northern california. so, it will be more like glorified friends with benefits. offered a good example of how to be emotionally supportive when he was talking the other day about relating to his wife. then he said he didn't know what to do because i had all the vehicles, all the food and all the money. i am american living in colombia where it is normal for a 20yo to date or marry a 40yo for cultural reasons. it can be time consuming, but if you’re in a dry spell or have nothing on the horizon, it deserves a place in the portfolio of strategies. henryk sienkiewicz, with fire and sword, fredonia books 2002, isbn 1-4101-0057-x and the film based on it. but being with someone who has an established career and fully formed network hasn’t made it easy., the “i also felt repelled as the tears streamed down his cheeks and fell from his cleft chin” woman feature is very useful in certain situations, like mine. but as long as he keeps adjusting the age of his women up to compensate his aging, dating will become easier and easier.”except that this violates the moral prohibition against lying, so the appropriate thing to do is to tell the truth if asked. now can i sit in this woman’s presence and feel nothing. of course i am open to something serious, but i guess what i meant to say is that i expect to date at least two or three guys before i get married, but who knows. as first recounted by his brother william, he replied:“be it so. think you’re incorrect about that…i actually watch the mindy project (and bf likes it too! deep down inside, i truly do believe that i am correct and the rest of the world is nuts. someone old enough to be a much older cousin/young uncle/father, when i didn’t have some kind of daddy complex…. but to be fair, i kept what i used to see as “my end of the bargain” by passing up opportunities for nasty casual sex. i was extremely uncomfortable, even as my friends were squeezing my hands and blinking back tears. which is why they assume there’s something wrong with me., i generally find it’s not useful to use celebrities as examples. i’m glad i’m not the only one that noticed this. but if you find yourself in a situation of dating regularly and you meet a really great guy (there’s no shame in okcupid by the way, i had a profile for awhile), there’s no reason to break it off at a certain point because you haven’t “dated around” enough.”i continue to harbor the thought that much of my internal wiring is crossed and more female than male.“however, you aren’t entitled to either one, no woman owes you either one. he trades on his family influence, has to buy his women, and is also overshadowed by jamie and ned. it’s not meant as a compliment; they scare me.”i’d want her to end the ltr not marry me. one thing women in that age range have said to me is that they get messaged primarily by guys in their own age range, and rarely by guys who are 30 or more. i'm 24 dating someone who is 42, and it's great for now but i'm not sure if it's what i'll always want and i feel guilty about that because he wants to settle down and get married and i'm all like "i'm just a kid". this is the first time in quite a while i’ve dated people my own age and i actually like we have first-hand experience with the same bands, the same music. all the more reason to stop shaming men in their 30s who are single. it goes strictly against deti’s lectures last week – perhaps you didn’t agree with him about a woman following her husband and putting his career first? sometimes the contrast itself, lady in the streets and sex kitten in the sheets, is even better! he was my boss, but it wasn't until after i quit the job to go back to college that he realized he missed me and i realized i was thinking and talking about him a lot. others don’t even say “i love you” vocally (my parents) and that also works for them. in other words, your loss of libido is perfectly timed to coincide with your brand new lard-ass physique and moody attitude. i’ve loved everyone of them and i sometimes file away the longer ones for later reminders. if a modern ltr can end “for any reason”, then a woman gaining 10 pounds counts. the men were ages 25 to 33, and none of them were gay. 😉i am probably the most restricted person commenting here and my reply to this:“dating for fun sounds very much like using other people for your entertainment. he’s so weird it’s impossible to categorize him. you can see, men tend to focus on the youngest most fertile womenfixed that for you. relationshipyou’d be hard pressed to convince me he asked you out “for fun”. at 15 years old and after two dates, i made my first ltr “official” and stuck with her for four years. in fact, she may need to take the initiative in order to achieve the marriage. it has far more to do with maturity than actual age, but i fear maturity is coming later in life these days. jeez, if i had a nickel for every time i’ve seen the manosphere rag on women who let themselves go! i believe i did a kindness, as those men went on to date women who did fall in love with them and marry them.” that seems awfully harsh to me – 30 is the median marriage age for college educated women. most of my thesis students have girlfriends, correction all, none of them are imagining some impending doom that will end their relationships as susan is suggesting.. that’s also why i mentioned early in the post that commitment-avoidant guys often become less so after graduating from college, because they get knocked back to low man on the totem pole. people ever get the comeuppance that you hope they will because they don’t have the same ethics as you do. you don’t even allow the small talk with the woman at work. do think that women dating guys in their 30s need to be very careful to make sure this is not the case – he should have a history of ltrs rather than strictly strs…. i will have to remember about it if i ever will go to states. i got banned last year from telling the truth about islam on manboobz and then this year on the same site for telling the truth about christianity and judaism. would most definitely not abandon my wife for the same reason. are right about men – as long as they revise their expectations to increasing female age commensurate with their own, they should find dating easier. most girls are sick of the bar scene, have not met any actual nice guys, and think, “i’ll try online dating”. i helped them get ready for proms even when they were freshmen, but i never got asked to the prom myself. i’m simply saying that you can decide to break up with your gf for gaining 10 lbs. adultery is far more easily forgiven in france and europe at large than in america/uk., let’s just take the most popular show from the 1990s, friends. google fool-saint if you don’t know what i mean.@cooperyour comments in this thread make me realize that you are quite rigid about what you expect and how quickly. if men see me as the enemy because i think ron perelman is gross in every way, including physically, they’ve got issues. 😉 (or, more accurately, how they would be without a lot of self restraint). even if it doesn’t imagine if stephen hawkings mother would had decided not to have him., i did not read your comments before i posted, but, yeah, that is what i was trying to say.) however, men have a strong preference for younger women, as illustrated in this ok cupid graph of male messaging by female age: as you can see, men tend to focus on the youngest women in their already skewed preference pool, and, what’s more, they spend a significant amount of energy pursuing women even younger than their stated minimum. you know, when i feel like i’m starting to give up the selfishness because this guy is really “worth it”.@susan“haha, that would be hilarious, but i daresay you would be labeled someone who is not respectful of our lgbt friends, and your application to be a spiritual leader would be rejected. one improves society, the other harms it…there is no equivalence. uhura a “charming negress” then he felt bad about it but she said it was fine, she had evolved beyond caring about such things. (i heard a noise late one night, freaked out and ended up setting a ton of traps incase someone did try to break in.’m going to keep score of how many marriages i know of where i’m “absolutely 100% certain* i know the sex of the person at fault for the divorce (and the reason). dh and i once had an argument during which he picked up our older son. a very small minority of men have a shot with gorgeous 25 year olds when they’re almost 50 (of course depending on what they’re definition of what “gorgeous” is).”fwiw i don’t see the 8 years between my wife and i as any kind of problem at all, and at this point i could easily see 10 years being a non-issue. one thing i’ve seen psychologists express concern about is that people don’t have a serious relationship at all until their late 20s, and then that marry that person.“as for you, i find it hard to believe that you were at the bottom of the pile with those luscious big brown south asian boobies and delectable chocolate nipples. “mark manson used deception to play erika awakening, which is totally not cool (though erika awakening does bear some responsibility for who she chose).!can you give concrete examples of what i’m missing?, is your friend getting enough sunlight (one of those lamps can make a difference)? wouldn’t, it sounds like you are able to pull the women you want. goldload more comments (2 replies)[–]ahm_an_ahlehphahnt 16 points17 points18 points 1 year ago (10 children)i'm so so so glad you got away from your bf like that and went to a better place. tyrion lannister is the most “alpha” guy on the show! asks me out to dinner, but i’m not interested in him, so i thank him and decline. there must be a reason why reasonably fit college professors were getting laid like tile by their students before they finally had to prohibit it to appease the feminists. i haven't had time to flesh out what i want from life, but i love her and for the time being (hopefully forever) that will be enough. some of the guys say she sounds “weird,” but if she slept with him quickly and put out the super sexual vibe she’d be “easy. others believe men are most attracted to women who are fertile now. my last boyfriend did that a lot, and i found that it grated on my nerves a lot. was just not interested in a relationship at all during that time. is it really realistic to expect charlotte in modern day nyc to have experiencs like that without upping her n considerably? i will say that sometimes our ideas of how to do things clashes, and sometimes she has said she feels like she's playing catch-up with me in terms of where we are in life presently, but overall it hasn't been much of an issue. the truth is, most women really don’t want to go more than 10 years older at the outside. so i save the “love me tender” stuff (which to be honest is something *i* want more than her…) for the week prior to shark week, and ramp things up right after by starting up the more aggressive stuff.” imagine that you are dating a woman and have been for two years. we met at work and i was attracted to him more than i have been to anyone else.’m not the type of person that enjoys emotions very much, but this is exactly the kind of thing i need to share in my romantic relationships.

12 Things You Should Know Before Dating an Older Guy

i am aware, though, that jeff took nancy to the hayride last weekend, which is fine. think this is not uncommon with artistic types – and this guy did go on to make his living acting and singing. it’s not that a girl would necessarily be disgusted by an unrestricted guy’s past, but perhaps she would not be comfortable moving as quickly as other girls had been, and that would turn the guy off, or make him think she was weird.) i decided to count how many women were not skinny in the hour i was there:2 women, out of the dozens i saw in that hour, who were bigger (ie not skinny).@ the womeni’ve also never understood the appeal of dating “for fun”. 😛 the only people i can “hang around” with are the ones i have some deep connection with, be it friendship or romantic. i think most women would agree he is extremely unattractive, with smv about equal to his wife’s. am going to assume, with great confidence, that when this adage was coined they were not thinking of 80 year old men. and when i finally reached that point, it still scared the living hell out of me the first few times. you are assuming that it is, or at least that is not bad merely that “it is. in any event i can’t count the number of times on a certain so-called christian man’s blog, where many of the male commenters said revolting things about women and their age and appearance and it went unchallenged by the blog host. conversely, if he really wants me, then i will probably really want him. over a period of years, it became harder and harder for him to resist the temptation to try and get more of that. is in nyc, so maybe he’ll chime in with some good suggestions about how to meet guys, although i suspect he is one of the arrogant men at the charity ball. they aren’t all that interested in having children anytime soon, which is of concern to the researchers because the biological clock is clicking on the women they will someday expect to mother their kids. i go outside to get some fresh air and new guy follows me out. my hubby and i met later in life (30/41), and we'd both already heard about the other through my brother and our mutual friends. in other words, if your friend says something about a bullet through the head and he has a gun lying around, then yeah you probably want to alert someone. one woman wrote to me that she waited 6 weeks after describing herself as severely depressed. why am i having to explain the basic risks and benefits of dating? payed his part of the rent, bought him his clothes, food etc. i think it’s unwise, short sighted and offensive; and will just give her detractors more fodder for unfair criticism.. recognizes basic biological differences, values youthful fertility, values youthful sexual attractiveness, seems to give men an advantage, etc. my sense is that what men want is for the hottest, sexiest, most dtf women to have somehow waited patiently for them to come along and stake a claim. males on the other hand have a hard time talking about their problems.. if you’ll excuse the extremely unfortunate pun, weight is such a huge chunk of smv that it’s very difficult to overlook. except i have two half sisters from my dad that are 39 and 36. of course i am open to something serious, but i guess what i meant to say is that i expect to date at least two or three guys before i get married, but who knows.“that guy didn’t even let me come up for air. women will then label these men as guys who are not serious candidates for long-term relationships. (this is not a typical swimsuit choice in boston unless you are at the pool to swim laps. it also a fairy tale for men to want girls who are really physically attractive that acted with modesty and a low n by the time they marry? i will have to remember about it if i ever will go to states.”i’m pretty sure that i wasted way too much time on games, generally., here’s the point:“the point is that a lot of women view in this way men who are not classically physically attractive. but with no escalaton, even a tiny bit, it’s just time to move on… who cares what the reason is?@saywhaat“passerby, having still been at the bottom of the pile at 19 and 20, go easy on her. salvatori, an oilman who helped make reagan’s political career, had to fight like hell to get reagan into the la country club, and he did so by telling the board that since reagan worked for ge, he was an industrialist, not an actor. but who knows when it’ll happen, we’re both poor as church mice atm. but the truth is, i am the change i’d like to see in the world already. i know she wanted to make a move earlier but didn't because of the age difference. he basically said that the way our relationship was wouldn't work as we continued growing, but if we "started fresh" in a few years it would be more equal between us.”i wasn’t actually part of the argument (i don’t think, maybe i was), so no i don’t want to have it. i think 26 is my upper limit and that would be really really pushing it!‘ohh i met this girl, she’s just a touch prettier, tits are a touch larger etc. if she wasn’t attracted to me, i can easily see how she would be easier to “lead astray”, and back in my blue pill days, i wouldn’t have had a clue, and would have been utterly devistated and confused.@intjomg, j will probably have a good concrete suggestion for dealing with your friend, but if you think he is really contemplating suicide i think you should alert his loved ones and urge him to talk to someone asap. i have no idea how they made a living, but they were the dudes who populated the singles bars. i am a very sarcastic person so someone that wants to be with me needs to take a little bit of an edge and not feel personally hurt by it. for some reason they seem to get a bad rap in this part of the internet, and i’m not sure why. personal theory is that as women get to their thirties, they are programmed to have their range of attraction naturally broaden, since they are nearing the end of their fertility and they can no longer attract the apex alpha of the tribe. it’s weird that you guys are projecting immaturity onto her. a million years i never would have thought of those terms. mystery had his daughter and did that lame song about her, everyone was joking about what a great trophy bang she would be, but how she would have a defcon 10 bitch shield because of her familiarity with game.“paternal age effect”men who want healthy children should have their children early. both guys have great jobs and i’m sure they are busy., the beta provider gambit ascribes nefarious motives to the female. gee, i don’t know, maybe because not everyone goes to grad school at mit.” only 24% agree that “your most important personal goal is to get married. goldload more comments (4 replies)[–]blondekay 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (3 children)it's been almost 2 years since i broke up with him, but i don't think i've recovered even a little bit. he doesn't act his age though - most people mistake him for around five years younger - so it's not so bad. suffice it to say that all the fire and brimstone i spout here about promiscuous woman has been sprayed against men in other venues. i think for a lot of women, it plays out in more innocuous ways., did you mention: “i’m super busy with work right now so i wouldn’t even have time for something serious. my point is, even a “restricted” woman can ride the “carousel” once or twice, and if the primary sticking point is riding at all, then unrestricted vs. peej-state-1 doesn’t get banned, that’s my point in asking the question.”the real problem is that there isn’t really a smp because a market is not the best analogy. ”i thought a point of life was to avoid romantic trauma, meaning that you marry the person you fall in love with. plus, since this is a blog for young women, i don’t see the point of highlighting what i see as bad male behavior. either way, we are happy, we love each other, and i wouldn't change it for the life of me. i was rather in awe of the man in that picture, but somehow over the years i completely forgot about it, until just this week. am down with this, and i’m down with susan’s goal., having still been at the bottom of the pile at 19 and 20, go easy on her. only way this is possible is if the person does not shut it down immediately. wish i was there to take notes, then write a comedy script. it is the part i can’t wait to blow through so my life can get back to normal.’s seriously something that i never learned about before (meaning 6 months ago). next day i got a friend and we wheeled in and grabbed the car of mine that he had been using. he definitely has done a much better job of keeping in shape than she has.@susankhal droga became a pussy at the end and let his wife boss him around too much, leading to his death. believe the term of art in this situation is “negress. is not true that to treat female depression “you just have to be a good listener. no one is asking her to meet the situation in white plains, or freeport or scotch plains. been to kalbarri a few times, where they have great walking tracks gorges and rock formations.”if i was in college, and my gf landed a very good job first, i surely would *consider* moving to where she was – since i don’t have one yet. four of the six could strongly relate, while two were not affected:the editor, 36it’s not an internal thing for me. i wore a lil’ smirk, held the flower in front of me, cocked my a head a bit, and said “just so you know, no hard feelings about the parking spot. gold[–]aniquin 352 points353 points354 points 1 year ago (4 children)somehow i doubt it.’ve always been like this, but my wife didn’t realize she was until she got with me. burning of wives on the funeral pyres of their husbands, widow-burning, commonly known as sati (“suttee” in english), has been practiced in india since at least the fourth century b.. recognizes basic biological differences, values youthful fertility, values youthful sexual attractiveness, seems to give men an advantage, etc. in closing, i am very open to dating a guy 4-6 years older than myself. she’s been riding the alpha cock carousel, has racked up a high number of sexual partners, but now is going to find some sap who will pay her bills and not ask too many questions, and marry him pronto. hypergamy arises from the fact that women must be compensated for the utility loss associated with the foregone mating opportunities. i just kinda assumed sometime way back that it was part of the purpose of the role of wife/mate. it was weird for a few months, but we got over it. i think that i was good at gaining entrance to the most popular cliques even though i did not necessarily have the looks.“that would be 15 or 20 seconds they would never forget, let me tell you”foreplay too huh?. well, despite the fact that there are probably a few guys here who, i would, assume regard me as an old battle axe, dh would say that i am “pleasant (enough–he likes a little feistiness), loyal (to a fault–as is he)and want to fuck him silly on a regular basis (as long as both our aged knees hold out)”.@ hansololol you should put the “intj don’t read this” disclaimer at the top of the post.@lokland:“i’ve seen enough college kids shut that down the person flirting with them to know that is an absolute load of shit. it’s difficult for many women to feel sexual if they don’t feel secure first.. i am going to come down on zach’s side here. it shocking to me having known them all my life. my body really did change and want that so its okay.) he must bring something else to the table to compensate. that’s just as true of marriage as it is of dating.@ted di’m not denying that women seek more sex and like more dominance during ovulation. if you never got asked to prom, then you can probably relate well to a whole lot of men who had to wait (or are still waiting) to see their smv rise into view – and that’s a good thing. by age 50, sperm have gone through 800 rounds of spermatogenesis, with 800 opportunities for mutations. what’s the difference between what you’ve been reading and the beta provider bait and switch gambit?@susan, why would they feel off limits to the restricted guys? gold[–]aniquin 20 points21 points22 points 1 year ago (3 children)i would imagine that's a great way to bond. don’t think you have much to lose by trying to talk to her about it at some point (either now or after a more platonic date). it’s a part of my serious lack of social skills.“there’s nothing that says “how to win friends and influence people” better than someone’s who is rigid and has complete self-confidence of the moral superiority of their position. this pissed her off at first but they stuck together and gradually her prissiness wore off and she really loosened up and aquired a better taste for humor herself. i have a habit of daydreaming, which is fine when one is walking, but kinda worrisome when driving. he loves to bullshit and claimed he was 39 and i believed it for entirely too long. i would need a reason to change my outlook – a reason.@zachgive it time to see if she loosens up and gets more flirty as she gets more comfortable. the time i find my husband most irresistible is when he is leaving for work in the morning, dressed like a british banker. as a result of proximity and some real personal admiration, it became more for him.@intjit is not true that to treat female depression “you just have to be a good listener. my parents were married at 20 and 32, but waited 7 years to have kids.@otcyou may very well be right about watching what men do rather than what they say. that no one would ever want me, and that i would never get married. we continued to be work friends, but since leaving that job, i never see him alone. years older (the female preference), you might want to look at guys a bit older. they often get played freshman year once, get even more cautious, and promptly become invisible to the frats for the remainder of their college years. i’ve done this, with me being the one holding the chainsaw. if i’m making out for hours i’m going to want more than kissing. or, if you were to think of reasons to keep dating her, what would they be? and fwiw, one of my good friends (who is also on the business side of a major fashion brand) met her boyfriend through okc less than a month after i introduced her to the site. it originally bothered me but honestly my dad may as well be in his 30's., quite a few men in hollywood are less than tall. i’m sick of guys making blanket statements about women that have no basis whatsoever. to assassinate the character of someone you don’t even know! the big easy has one of the sexiest film scenes i’ve ever watched. btw, i wanted to use the words “prediction”, but it sounds too heavy; what’s english for the superstitious belief that you can reveal your future by puting hot wax into water (no, i am not searching for words like “stupidity”. – “it is odd for someone you’re seeing frequently to say they miss you., if i were married at 19, that would have been a different story; married, going to school on my academic merit scholarship, but living under my husband’s roof, that would have been within the acceptable range of my family’s expectations. there’s money to be made from selling crap, and nothing sells crap like sex.@ susan walshhe was the most emo guy i’ve ever known, but to be honest, that was part of his appeal.)or imagine her (and your kids) finding hus on the computer with your login info clear and easy to read. he’s a great guy, you should really go out with him. people are foremost members of larger entities, such as families, tribes, or nations, and these large entities must be protected. remember that zach is not like you in that he considers girls he dates to be ltr-worthy off the bat. the idea of waking up next to ron perelman (i can’t even bear to think about going to sleep with him) is enough to make me want to run away to the other side of the country and wait tables. it’s not the worst thing in the world (it works well for my dad, who is unbearably difficult to speak to without it), but it’s not right for everyone. as susan noted, monetary compensation often makes up for other departments that are lacking. he’ll figure out his real mmv/smv soon enough. anxiety over the friend zone after just meeting a girl? you are assuming that it is, or at least that is not bad merely that “it is. i was in college in the 70s, here is what was perfectly normal and appropriate:weekend 1:on friday night i am going to the pike luau with mark j.“i said much the same thing at dalrock’s–that players need to be shamed along with sluts–and the religious party came after me as if i were the anti-christ. – “it’s clear from your commentary that you want women to be very restricted, in behavior, attitude and desire. but the problem for the woman you know is that the guy wasn’t genuinely in love with her. have to say though, that i am in better physical shape than ever and i’m much more secure and confident than i was at 25.“i just got back from cancun for 10 days, and took down four girls there. i have always been career-minded and together, i’m not a huge drinker, and while i still like to go out, i keep myself pretty composed., so you did extremely well in junior high, were the 4th cutest girl in hs (though, no takers), did not have one average, or below average, looking girlfriend in college…is it possible that you account of what was typical for a girl in the late 70’s was not as common as you think it is/was? but, i think we would would make interesting friend-circle acquantances. not that the research is wrong, but as with most research it generalizes across the spectrum. the truth is that there are tons of “good matches” for every person, and you will never be satisfied in your search for the one because there will always be someone “better” than each one you find. nyc is full of super-busy people, especially businessy-businessmen doing lots of business. 🙁intj, is your friend getting enough sunlight (one of those lamps can make a difference)? am going to assume, with great confidence, that when this adage was coined they were not thinking of 80 year old men. i would actually prioritize their responses over anything i might say, but i can add a couple of things from my experiences of speaking with women:1. i’m already often the oldest guy in the room at social events. an older man is established, less prone to let his affections meander, and much less likely to fall prey to a young woman’s shit tests; his younger counterparts generally do not have the wisdom that comes with experience. that young men are right to slum-it-up in their twenties playing video-games, then wreck havoc on the smp when they get their turn to. that lasted seven months, and he didn’t fall in love. considering how many men here have denigrated gold-diggers, i’m surprised by the approval of it — i guess it’s groovy if you’re really hot. goldload more comments (1 reply)[–]cutemusclehead 83 points84 points85 points 1 year ago (2 children)that's fucking cute!@ljbut if you look at more than just raw numbers i think guys in their 30′s have a better “selection” than men in their 40′s and certainly 50′s especially if you’re a guy who is not interested in being a step-dad and would prefer to be with a never-married/no kids woman. most guys i know think that way as well, but plenty of girls i know have said they could make out for hours with nothing else. the only thing that is sort of a bummer is my dad has quite a few health issues, and i'm the only child between the two of them (my dad has other older children that aren't in his life) so he relies on me for laundry and a few other things (him and my mom are not together). 😛but yeah, i can see your point about how the message is being delivered. american association of suicidology makes available a summary of national suicide statistics as soon as they become available from the national center for health statistics. i understand that that discussion does not need to include the subject of marriage, but after 2 years a girl is usually on the wife track or she is getting off that train. of course in those cases it is lopsided and unfair, which leads me to…for the record, i wouldn’t support anything that only made women more restricted. i've met older people who are modern and all that and other who are stuck in their ways and old fashioned..Permalinkembedsavegive gold[–]ohmyluckystars 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)i'm 26f and he is 64m, so 39 years.@ramble“however, i did ask you a question a few threads back that you never answered, so, i will ask it again:oh man, ramble, if you are going to talk about how much you long for women to get dumped if they gain 5 lbs…. if men see me as the enemy because i think ron perelman is gross in every way, including physically, they’ve got issues. remember how ramble wants movies/tv to feature a girl being dumped by her bf for being 10 lbs overweight?@ passer_bythere is a social and sexual cost to being smart and studious for a boy that is much higher than that for a girli missed the memo somewhere along the way. the optimum age of marriage…i’m currently reading edna ferber’s 1911 novel “dawn o’hara, the girl who laughed” (which is pretty good, especially for a first novel)…ferber’s protagonist muses thusly:“some day the marriageable age for women will be advanced from twenty to thirty, and the old maid line will be changed from thirty to forty. in life make us stronger and wisers, pampered people that got it easy never achieve anything of worth. if dating goes well, the next step is ltr (so far we are on track). as one male writer put it, “we don’t want high schoolers going after middle schoolers or dads going after their daughters’ friends. no matter the nomenclature, she has some sort of awareness that he’s been with more girls that she is comfortable with.)maybe i’m a corny weirdo, but i’d like to think one’s “mmv” is so rare that is can only be converted into one currency: true love with the right person.“maybe it looked like she didn’t care, maybe she really didn’t care, but the point is that you don’t know the whole truth. you think your post has disappeared, see spam or an inappropriate post, please do not hesitate to contact the mods, we're happy to help. you can’t stamp this out in me unless you can completely unmake me and reform me into something else. is that how you refer to elderly women and grandmothers?@susan:“i was inspired to write this post by a couple of women i know who are really, really enjoying relationships with men ten years older. is not an accident that the queen bees mainstream media ostracized them. think when i was younger i had this perception that my life would be over once i hit 40 and the rest was a slow slide into oblivion. good grief i’d have absolutely no idea how to show any affection to you if we somehow ended up in a relationship. i guess you could say youth is wasted on the young, and i get that susan is trying to wisen up the freshmen before it’s too late and the axe of turning 30 falls, thus complicating matters somewhat.”i think love is so transformative that it can take those traits and invert them and flip them to the good side. greater social stigma against male depression and a lack of social networks of support and help with depression are often identified as key reasons for men’s disproportionately higher level of suicides, since suicide as a “cry for help” is not seen by men as an equally viable option. well, during that time she started dating a guy that was older than she was (i don’t remember how much, but definitely older)., she’s just aiding the youth alliance in the coming massive intragender conflict over an older, more power, more sophisticated future cooper (due to the lack of adequate supply of future coopers) , which will pit the aging 28-33 year old women against the younger, more aggressive, 23-27 year old women. 😉“i assure you that i can put many evangelical preachers to shame when it comes to fiery speeches about sin, evil, and eternal damnation, and i’m not all that invested in the religious aspects at all. i gave online dating a try because some of the women i was looking for (those sick of the bar scene) are there. abc news:“the good news is that men who marry later may be more financially stable and emotionally mature,” says popenoe. his kids are younger than me, but not by much.@cooperare you really missing the point on why guys go on dates? saying she is looking for good ltr-guys, but doesn’t want to “be their everything” or might “want to date at least two or three… before getting” serious, she is potentially setting up a really nice guy for a whole world of hurt, when he gets emotional invested.: beach people, i was one for a while, then i ran away from it, now i want to be one again. but, on the other side of all that would be something that ran like clockwork, and made the majority of folks happy and content. in fact, most of the time other people being around annoys me. plus, when it comes to things like taxes, real estate, and life hacks that you pick up over time, an older guy can be a goldmine of useful information.“for me, 10 to 15 minutes of that is more than enough”. but it’s not you see a girl and think “wife wife wife” but rather “is she for something more serious (not necessarily marriage, but an ltr) or just for hmmmm hehehe conversations and watching porno. life is too indeterminate to base your relationship choices on mere biological chronology.@ jevery day mother teresa wrestled with the idea that god had forsaken her, that jesus didn’t exist and that her work with the poor was in fact the product of her throwing her life down the shitter. my dad) and would not trade my parents or how i turned out because of them for anyone., the concept that marriage was a shot in the dark.”i was definitely with my college gf just to fill the “relationship hole”, meaning that i wanted a relationship, but had no interest in marrying her.@ cooper- maybe she thinks he’s below her “league” and would be ashamed to have people know they slept together? from what i’ve gathered, a man in his 20s is more likely to blow his cash on frivolous things, while men in their 30s and are likely to save money for the future or for experiences, like a romantic vacation (wink, wink). problem is, most girls in their early 20’s are not mature enough to date an older guy. the truth is that without these mores, many men would have sex with females who are not yet adults. day i had to go in front of the mirror, while she would call me names until i cried.@ j:my own pattern went 1) meet guy in class or atparty 2) hope guy asks me to have coffee in student union/elsewhere 3) hope for date 4) date a few times 5) rinse and repeat. so “shopping around” in the mmp, when done properly, is better likened to window shopping than to actual consumption., women’s taste in men doesn’t necessarily change when they hit 30. it’s pretty rare, in my opinion, for a man to age into a “silver fox”. not to mention, where would i even meet an older guy? i’m also pointing out that this attitude, which susan has given voice to, is one of the primary reasons the manosphere exists. of my favorite things to do is to walk seductively through small crowds. i recall one guy at the spearhead who was so crazed and embittered that even the most similarly crazed and embittered would tell him to stfu.“yes, the stakes keep getting higher and higher, and the numbers more and more disadvantageous to women. i’m really feeling like i’m missing out with all this game of thrones stuff.”a uniquely american admixture of anxiety, repression, and emotional immaturity? i think we are missing each other’s mark, though.@pjpuh-leeze lady, purdah is a muslim thing (your sister-religion) and sati is the name of a goddess…., what i’m getting is that i should just hang back until i decide “i’m hunting for a relationship” and practically have it tattooed across my forehead. however, this seems odd when we are raised in a pc culture., i don’t consider myself an intellectual, but i will say that restricted chicks are operating on a whole different wavelength than you’ve been accustomed to. i know for a fact that i looked my best when i was around 35. i don’t actually believe his walking around the room was checking out other women. wonder what the women here think of the cappy cap link? is very different from the rest of the west coast. was recently explaining the ins and outs of drinking and how to ask permission from your elders to me (different culture). 😛i tell my wife i miss her by text from time to time, mostly when i find myself sitting at my desk at work missing her.@ susan walshit is odd for someone you’re seeing frequently to say they miss you. he views n in the context of how many offers a woman gets – it is a relative measure that reflects her attractiveness to men. i will only talk to a guy for longer than a few minutes if i actually would like to get to know him better and have an interest. but after having your son, imagining a world without him is damn near impossible. why the change in tone in regards to older men dating younger women? or, you know, some version of whining about your age. researchers conducted eight meetings with 60 “not-yet-married” men in northern new jersey, chicago, washington, d. i’ve not seen how long term co-habitation is taking up any of the slack…which might lessen the effects on society. in the fridge i found a brick of philadelphia cream cheese. i have to say though that the last line of this post was my favorite. he ran away with himself emotionally, i let him down in a respectful way and little was said about it afterwards. he would have done much better at 40 in that same job, and he wouldn’t have gone for a 40 year old. we will dance and drink and party, and then we will make out in his car for an hour before i head inside. she dumped him because he was a loser and wanted her to come with him and live in a tent. the percentage never married stayed the same for the two sets of women over five years – they didn’t get married on a statistically significant rate.”and like i already said, most individual women choose not to marry and have children with much older men. i’ve just never met a guy (other than one who is just a total douche who has tried to get in my life for years and i know to stay very far away from) who gave me that cozy, safe feeling. you want a woman to marry you because she’d been in an ltr with you, even though her attraction for you had begun to wane in recent months, and a handsome guy at work was tempting her with regular invitations?“and my manic episode/subsequent hospitalization and grad school dropout. if that is not what she wants/needs, she might need to start running with a more conservative crowd, where i’m sure she would be welcomed and fit right in. is obviously gonna depend on the guy in question but theres a sweet spot that can maximize a woman’s comfort zone whilst maximizing her number of prospective mates. maybe it’s the wine talking… not about being on her side, but the rest. mostly i would say that greeks self-segregate, but that leads to a perception by others that they’re not really interested in mixing it up. at least in my perception, there’s a lot more tolernce for fringe opinion in the’sphere than there is in the democratic party. had they grown up seeing women breast feeding then they would have already known and been comfortable with the primary function of the breast. theory is that in the eea, if a male survived into his forties and had some authority, that would have been a proxy indicator for high genetic fitness (since most didn’t make it that far), and thereby triggered something subconscious in some women. my error was that i didn’t understand doing so was damned hard for many/most people. mother was dead from breast cancer at 50 and my father was disabled from a stroke before 55. see, i and many men i know never went through that “bleach blonde” phase, so although i understand the stereotype you were shooting for, it is only because i’ve seen it in popular culture. although it was challenging at first, he truly makes me a better person! with the best i could possible have to offer, what 25yo girl isn't going to be able to find a 25-35yo man that can top it? that is when i turned the most heads and got the most offers, even though i was married then. the college bubble is going to burst, and grad schools will be part of that – perhaps that will make a difference., did you continue to date him even though you knew it woudln’t work? the only time it was noticeable was when talking about movies he'd watched growing up, that i was too young for when they were popular so i never got around to seeing them.! my ego is taking a beating today…i made the mistake of subscribing to a thread here once. what you lack in lifetime achievement you gain in proximity. i guess that doesn’t really matter though, because i’m 33. relationship between gender and suicide has been extensively researched by western sociologists, given that males die much more often by means of suicide than do females, although reported suicide attempts are 3 times more common among females than males. goldload more comments (2 replies)[–]bridgerdabridge1 74 points75 points76 points 1 year ago (25 children)im 17, my dad is 68.“slow aging body” is kind of a silly way of putting it, but weight lifting /does/ increase testosterone which prevents age from showing.”which means if things don’t get serious, then they aren’t the right person. and i assume that after a lifetime of sexually activity(began at age 11 with two girls 5 years older than him) he’s probably far better in the sack than most young, hot guys. i did not see that happening until i realized that my husband really felt he was in a one down position to our son. there is absolutely nothing more annoying than a girl who does not put energy at all in sexual foreplay. i used the word boor to describe him as a “rude, ill-mannered person. yes, to me a ltr is essentially a work-around for that rule. because people don’t want to get married before their late 20s., more like how they frame ron paul to sound like he is some sort of radical (you see, he was both in favor of smaller government and opposed the iraq war…what a nutjob)., when they judge those of us for putting emotions before sex, as prudes, sexually repressed, weird, etc. there are tons of girls who are “younger, hotter, tighter” than me. i guess i feel like my life hasn’t been super easy (pretty much every medical problem i’ve had, including bipolar and hearing loss, can be chalked up to tbs) and i’d rather not pass that experience on to my kids, whoever they might be, if i can help it. gold[–]armydude19 74 points75 points76 points 1 year ago (1 child)damn she still hasn't gotten on her feet after 14 years? a woman forfeits some male smv if she goes over that, but it’s still worth the tradeoff until about age 35 or so. ”most of these things won’t be revealed until marriage and the fun wears off. cousin, also known as the most beautiful woman born in the year 1956, had four daughters. now try to remain less interesting and less unusual to reduce embarrassment possibilities and to increase the likelihood of re-invitations. in short, i guaranty it would be a time of much misery and suffering. oops don’t drink and blog…it tickles me to know someone is dinging the fed. how can there be a nefarious plot to brainwash us into thinking weight doesn’t matter, since i would bet serious $$ that is all every girl has ever heard about? think about it; the women in their 60s as a whole don’t look all that great, forget the ones in their 70s. i openly admit that i moved to my current city to be with my bf; the original plan was to join the peace corps, which i opted out of specifically because i was in a relationship. “feminine wiles” is not a term that most would apply to me. now, if you couple that with the fact that she might have just been making a joke about him telling his friends (i. right now, i tend to over-emphasize one aspect without efficiently incorporating the others.”i’m not trying to be a pita here, but i have friends for this stuff.” (to a certain degree)it’s like susan using the word ‘rigid’ to describe me, yesterday. a little birdie told me that hot professors get hit on a lot by female students. maybe it’s different on the west coast, where not all the women are as hyper career focused as in the east coast cities. it just isn’t something local kids here worry about much.: a month or two ago the men here hijacked yet another thread and started posting about fantasy hot girls; i think the average age of the women listed on the aggregated great fap-off material list was probably in the 38-42 zone. – “my point is that sociosexuality is indeed on a spectrum, but the discussions here, such as the beta provider ones, tend to focus on the extremely unrestricted women, i. that guy didn’t even let me come up for air.’ve always noticed my perception of what an attractive age to date has always gone up as i aged.. live the rest of your days doing that while you have the opportunity to do it and make the best of it. obviously the physical attraction would exist for a wide range of very young women but it’s hard to imagine spending significant (non-sack) time with a woman way, way younger. being a bit more selfish and less idealistic is a bit difficult for me, but i am trying. i had a friend from new york who, as with so many native new yorkers who leave, always made it out to be the world’s greatest place, even though he left to live elsewhere.: i dont think of you as a thin, sexy woman. the part about girls being more critical of her looks before they realized that they liked her is really interesting. they do fall in love, but the pall of impending separation looms. it’s not to say that if the timing is right, it will happen, but i’m not going to fuck the city of manhattan and expect to be treated like a high-quality catch. number of young women who feel as you do about not being ready for or desiring anything serious, but who can’t articulate it–even to themselves–vastly outnumber the young women who feel as you do and can state it with perfect clarity. i feel like online dating is amazing for 30+, since at that point people are a little less (at least try to be) focused on sex, sex, sex. what i said was:“a large number of ordinary average men in their 30s to their 50s are going to resemble [perelman].’s been in coming here, that i’ve learned that there is nothing shameful about dating for a mate, and not for ‘fun. i’m still working out other methods to vent this stuff, but i’ve been getting back into writing and performing music as a way to help. i am lucky in that my wife has a genetic gift so that people that meet her usually guess she's in her early 40s. i’m a very good reader of male interest, and from what chuck was saying, i mean i really assumed he was interested. you’re not willing to wait, by all means zach, cut her loose. i was 18, i did not feel mature enough to be dating a man in his upper 20s or 30s. imagine a woman at the higher range of that age, say 40-50, the only women i read about who go that age are those who marry men with lots of money, and the cynical view is that if he will become frail within a relatively short period of time, they are ready to scoop up the dollars. i look older now, my face looks tired a lot. thing is that in the mainstream nyc smp, sex comes first then relationship.”i’m fully aware of what i’m sure many women see here as a major difference between an intentional trick played on a man by a woman and a natural progression of maturity. modern ltr, those dealbreakers can be *anything* (including the best one – “i found someone better”), heck, they can change from moment to moment. he eventually invited me to see a comedy show with him, but i declined.@ escoffieri mean that the two terms are less than a milimeter apart yet one signifies that you are confederate plantation-owning civil war general and the other means you are chair of the department of peace and conflict studies at mills college.“your comments in this thread make me realize that you are quite rigid about what you expect and how quickly. i just kinda assumed sometime way back that it was part of the purpose of the role of wife/mate. she would have to be 13 years my junior before we hit 29, which imo is not only still reasonable, but honestly a goal i think i could have managed provided i was willing to make some compromises. i have no doubt he chose computer science as his major in part because it was something with which he was already familiar, and now he’s got a sweet job/salary set up for next year. i didn’t feel like putting all that into words, but you did it marvelously! lurkers need to find that spot, which is going to be individual to them, and work to become that type of girl.’t hold my peers in contempt so much as i blatantly ignored 8/10,1/10 i was blatantly rude too. after two months, the woman at work asks to get off the project. and others addressing this point:personally, find a gap of more than ten years problematic.@j“i will occasionally slip in a manosphere trope like, “would you like me better if i were more submissive? my point is not that people should keep shopping until their wedding day. not gonna lie, when society dictatates that you are the one that should pay for and plan the fun, it’s kind of lame to watch someone wax on about it. it was the best way to break out of the limp college scene. it goes strictly against deti’s lectures last week – perhaps you didn’t agree with him about a woman following her husband and putting his career first? i’m physically much stronger and have a better body than at any previous time, my libido has diminished not a lick, and i have much more ability to sexually connect with and electrify my partner. the great male survey at ask men:it has been said over and over again that today’s couples are choosing to marry later in life. in fact, the maturity angle strikes me as a great way for women to feel ok with this bait and switch.@rambleif you haven’t yet had the pleasure…why we shit test. i challenge you to also consider what you might bring to the table., and maybe this is just from living in the northeast (the south and midwest are fat), but i constantly see early/mid 30s women who are very, very attractive. it was quite strange to read all these avowedly devout people get angry at me for saying that the player lifestyle is immoral. gold[–]vidur88 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago* (0 children)boyfriend of 2 years is 17 years older than me; not wierd at all. do you know what was going on in the ex-wife’s mind pre-divorce? add to that my tendencies to feel i’m always right, and that i’m a judgmental asshat, and you can easily see how me and catholic grade school just didn’t get along well., men are very comfortable being exotified, while women are not. sexually i have lost nada since my twenties and i can still bench 300 pounds. whereas toxic garbage like jezebel gets corporate funding, a (toxic) writer like roissy never would…even though he is a much better writer than anyone on jezebel. is odd for someone you’re seeing frequently to say they miss you.@ jason773it’s all game (psychological traits) and physical stature (eating well and working out). there are many restricted folks who have a hard time finding partners because the prevailing script (sex first then “see where it goes”. when that time comes there will be surprisingly few divorces. she has a great sense of humor – you click from day one and thoroughly enjoy working together. committing before a trial period, aka dating, is likely to lead to divorce. men know that they deserve the best life has to offer. another male blogger recently wrote that he wanted to take a scalpel to the faces of women who complain about sexual dry spells. his daughter ends up being played by a cad who used the lessons directly from her dad’s blog. pickwick is misunderstood by his landlady when he proposes to hire a valet and is subsquently sued for breach (through sharper lawyers), she wins the suit, he refuses to pay, and is sent to debtors prison. old way of dating used to be that people moved as soon as they realized he/she was not “the one. says “match made in heaven” than unrestricted meets emotionally immature restricted. thought that was how most men (and women) dated these days. about 9 months single, exactly two 1st dates, two three weeks in to the second girl and… you guessed it: ltr that then became a 12 year marriage. you are probably going to have to include online dating as part of your strategy. after three years of powerlifting training, i’m at an “intermediate” level per exrx’s strength standards.+1and regarding the high fashion clothing being intimidating, this can be the case. i’m sure you’ll be a great mother if you decide to have kids.’s not coming through at all in any of your posts. instead of going for a fat, ugly boor she could opt for some ib all-star half his age making a very nice living indeed. she looks like a heavily made up 43 year old cougar with thin lips and an odd nose. the words my mother used to tell me: whatever you focus on, you will get more of. know you feel this way, you say this a lot, but this has not been my experience. remember when i was of college age and i listened to other young women talk about the sororities they were interested in and the fraternities associated with them, ie. put another way, two particular people may totally suck as husband and wife, yet they both may be terrific spouses to someone else. nyc is an online dating haven, what’s the standard website used there? tell you what, if shit really does hit the fan in the west, i’ll do my best to be poolside somewhere you can reach quickly. gold[–]bigredjohnson 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)as a guy in his 40s madly in love with his 50-something girlfriend who sometimes has similar insecurities, i say please knock it off. what if ex-hubby was contributing to the marital decline by being fat, lazy, unhelpful around the home? you’d think a harvard law grad would at least be able to formulate a logical and well-thought out argument with a clear progression.

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@susan:“no, because once you make a lifelong commitment, you exit the market and stop shopping. i said what ted and i think of as an ltr, is what you have termed (i think) an “mini-marriage” (not “college married”). can you please explain to me what the actual difference is between a restricted and an unrestricted woman other than perhaps how high her n got? these are the beta men (confident, competent, accomplished, kind, nondominant) you’re telling your female readers to marry and whom you say are attractive.“you’re missing the fact that you can see potential in a person and fall for them hard, and happily enter an ltr with them, all the while knowing that you will most likely not marry.“however, there are plenty of sensitive guys out there that will be head over heels for a girl soon after meeting her ”sensitive? dated older men, well always- i did they’re not different from their younger counterparts. men that are attractive to young women past 40 take care of themselves, age well, are successful, confident and wealthy. girls were trained to be able to captivate by showing the underside of a wrist (during the tea ceremony)! i was reacting to the idea that us old guys have delusions of wrangling up some super young virginal bride. a friend of my daughter’s says he only wants women who are size zero.”i envy your willingness to help those who would do harm. i suppose that if you sling a cross around the neck of hamster it begins to look more like an easter bunny to you. playing catch, roughhousing on the floor, and even pulling the inevitable all nighters get more difficult over time. line: stop being a perpetual resentment machines and accept your low smv if that’s the hand you’ve been dealt. to me “dating” is just hanging out to see how it goes., i would like to see a study that measures the amount of testosterone a 45 year old power lifter is carrying around compared to a 21 year old nonathletic college student. their society didn’t have that issue (except in the case of prostitution) because the custom was “you break it, you buy it. for a tv show/movie to show a girl being dumped specifically due to weight gain, was your hope right? in addition, you’ll find not only “never marrieds” in those age brackets, but divorced guys as well. a girl without any sex appeal, even though she’s attractive, might as well just be a friend to me., i guess my question is, outside of hus, is anyone actually incorporating this rule of thumb into their advice? also, there are legacies that are automatic ins for a lot of sororities. but who know, maybe she wants thing to go at this pace. however, i do agree the scrutiny on men is ridiculous since it is women that are delaying marriage and thus, many men remained unmarried. to admit, the polish winged hussar makes a great husband. girls tend not to be too interested in magazines that don’t have women looking “fabulous” in them. my post about ukrainian feminists was deleted because it linked to half-naked protesters, or because of ufilf acronym, or was it just because it contained some malformed html or was caught by spam filter?), and a guy approached me and asked if i wanted to play pool. do not date for the mere excitement of butterflies – that’s preposterous., i have never recommended terminating relationships without consideration of the other. as for those curves, you are on one side, i am on the other. either way, there was no way i was going to get involved with him after that.”well i’ve been doing it for 42 years, but i am certainly willing to entertain the idea that it isn’t the best method. think there needs to be a big smv swap; let all the restricted people hang together, and all the unrestricteds in their camp. go to italy, get into race car driving, eat ice cream, breed wiener dogs, whatever you want to do. he’s also the one who broke into my apartment to leave a written apology while i was sleeping after we’d argued., a new study finds that while women do respond more favorably to the faces and bodies of men with strong immune responses, they seem to cue into fatness and thinness, not macho features, when making their judgments.@ted d but keep in mind, the ‘sphere tends to collect the “herb” type men after they’ve been burned, so perhaps many of them have indeed been in marriages where no or little attraction was ever present. · 1438 comments what popular fictional character would wholeheartedly support trump without a second thought? dh and i once had an argument during which he picked up our older son.””(dawn’s desires at thirty should not be thought of as “settling”…the author makes her sexual desire for her older & more stable new love interest just about as clear as one could get away with in 1911 in a mainstream novel)the beneficial aspects of raising the “marriageable age” for women don’t seem to have transpired as projected, though…. should donate their wonderful clear genes to me, as mine are tainted and i really want kids. as a running joke with dh, i do an imitation of kay and ask him questions about how he would like me better., your account above is way too tame for what we have now.. i’m wondering if the reason i haven’t heard from them is our ages. which is why i keep saying that n alone is useless, but how a woman got her n is not. perhaps that’s why so much of this went right over my head, i wasn’t just “tricked” by the romance myth, i think i’m wired to actually like most of it as well…., i think more and more guys are doing just that! there are certain life milestones that break this up more than you might think (marriage, kids, etc).“i thought that was how most men (and women) dated these days. why are these two still together after 2 years if they haven’t even discussed getting engaged? says she isn’t looking for anything serious, but at the same time says “that is not to say that if i met the right person tomorrow, i wouldn’t get into a serious relationship. c’mon, vd, jon snow is where it’s at. the point is not that mit post-grads are the only people capable of easily grasping calculus, it is that most people find calculus to be difficult. you are only getting the smallest taste of what women are getting, re: criticism regarding physical appearance. if he refuses to formally marry her, he still owes the bride price. it possible that you account of what was typical for a girl in the late 70’s was not as common as you think it is/was? goldload more comments (1 reply)[–]statlerloveswaldorf 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)i am the same age as my father-in-law's new wife. as someone else said, guys don’t have a medium between booty call and girlfriend. but, like i said, my wife/mate has always been my outlet for it. his point was that was that some people just have that intellectual intuition, which others don’t (which is essentially the same as yours, i think). if i come to the conclusion that they won’t annoy me constantly, then i’ll start to chat them up and see what they are about. for every guy over 30 who is lavishing in the rewards of their labour which may or may not include aiming his attentions at younger women, there are dozens of men who are reeling from divorce, struggling with a highly competitive and increasingly demanding mid-career, or are otherwise temporarily or perpetually lacking in status markers or physical attributes (the short, fat, bald crowd) that are more than enough to reduce his smv/mmv to the point where his age is just one more detriment; a far cry from the kid in the candy store or any kind of position from which he projects this blanket discount upon his female peers. in addition to causing a lower libido, that decrease can also result in changes in mood and emotions, a decrease in strength due to loss of muscle tissue, and an increase in body fat. many n’s can dance on the head of a pin? i’ve come to view most of them as keyboard playground bullies – all trying hard to grab my braids and pull them. it goes strictly against deti’s lectures last week – perhaps you didn’t agree with him about a woman following her husband and putting his career first? or not susan or anyone else here calls such men fat and ugly makes no difference. there is a social and sexual cost to being smart and studious for a boy that is much higher than that for a girl. the right idea, shared in the right way, can trigger a change in someone. evolutionary psychologists say that relationships like this often occur because while fertility lasts only from puberty to menopause in women, it starts at puberty and can extend long into midlife for lots of men. “the thing with prudish girls and asexual girls and girls who want nothing but to never see you again is that they’re all exactly the same. on the other hand, i would expect that if she has read her father’s blog, she’ll know the female attraction triggers to avoid and not get played. it was quite strange to read all these avowedly devout people get angry at me for saying that the player lifestyle is immoral. there’s nothing wrong with playing video games as a form of entertainment when work is done. gold[–]pamelahoward 61 points62 points63 points 1 year ago (3 children)it was actually in the 90s, i was born in '94. a one night stand is more likely on their minds. the fact that we formed an entire religion and society based on the teachings of jc alone goes against the 10 commandments: thou shalt have no false gods before me.”no, i try not to do that at the office, but give me a couple hours. she ends her prime years at 31, while the male stays in his prime through 36. without those rules, many women would have sex with men who aren’t interested supporting their children![–]elliewest 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (8 children)my ex was 6 yrs older than me and he was such a grumpy old man from the get go. i would give anything to have seen his face when you emerged.’m willing to bet that for him, he was hoping for one of two things:2. lowe looks like he’s had some work, so i’m not sure that his naural physical condition is much better than that of the mother who gave him two sons and stuck with him through his drug issues. he came home and told his wife one day that he was in love with a man and wanted a divorce. i had other scholarship money that covered my books and fees..they were really pure and delicious raisins, unchewed by other men., ser jorah, that’s pretty much the definition of being friend-zoned!, at least change your environment before you try to commit suicide. i should also state that my brother and i have a shared circle of friends, with a few exceptions. that’s why she’s pretty good at advising younger women, she’s been there with the concomitant quasi-transactional attitude. the tables may turn at 30 in terms of male/female smv trajectory *potential*, but a man still has to run the table to reap the benefit. may be better examples, but my point that “doubting but doing” is better than sanctimony still stands. i started working as a makeup artist on fashion photo shoots when i was 15 and continue to do so in the time after work or on weekends, so i will also be the lead educator on film in the videos, which requires quite a bit of personal maintenance (hair done, in shape, nice clothes, etc. but suddenly, they would be coming around asking my secretary about me and whether my marriage was solid (in one case), leaving little treats (nothing significant), repeatedly eye fucking me in the hallway (in the case of a different one), or, in another case, just repeatedly asking me if there is anything she could do for me (though not in my department) and getting all red and flustered and unable to keep eye contact when i spoke to her. whatever you said i’d defend your right to free speech (but watch out, if your words/their reactions are amusing enough i might tape it). gold[–]crazy_pants_wolf 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (2 children)my boyfriend is 17 years older than me. i simply got to the point where i knew what i was looking for and screened for it… and she happened to be twelve years younger, level-headed, feminine (not feminist! i would also like someone pretty outgoing as i can tend to be a workaholic and need someone to push me out of my comfort zone a bit. so long as they “own it” – accept responsibility that their standards may leave them high and dry – how is that a problem? just got back from cancun for 10 days, and took down four girls there. broadcast:thursday 16 march 2006melvyn bragg and guests discuss miguel de cervantes’ 17th century novel, don quixote.***jackie november 28, 2012 at 2:19 pm @esco “i said much the same thing at dalrock’s–that players need to be shamed along with sluts–and the religious party came after me as if i were the anti-christ.@ cooperwhat gets me, is the fact that being willing to forego such a future advantage, now, has no merit. since you are in your early 30’s, you are in a decent place in terms of the range of ages you *could* consider for a mate. after two months, the woman at work asks to get off the project. was the norm for all women and men in the 1970s and before.‘ohh i met this girl, she’s just a touch prettier, tits are a touch larger etc. desires and your desires are, in general, significantly different and often complimentary.@adbg:“once i started working full-time, in an actual interesting job, and was in a supervisory capacity on important projects…and once i had a decent real-life social network…my video gaming and online life dropped dramatically.’m going to continue to agree to disagree – i don’t think you can prohibit that. the record, perelman and barkin had a pre-nup which stipulated that after a certain date she would be eligible to receive some rather large chunk of his fortune in the event of divorce. remember when i was younger, i used to see men with women who were 20 years younger, and thought “what a selfish asshole. one really hot guy did and i accepted that deal for three years. but woe be to the guy who took her at word that she wasn’t looking for something too serious and just wants to date and have some fun and butterflies, if she decides she caught feelings (while, at the same time, sarcastically putting him down on a regular basis).’ll go get the divorce papers then…or better,*ring, ring, ring‘hey mom. had his own job, made his own money, had sex anytime he wanted with a kinky and very good-looking woman – for free. i can and do have a relationship with him without the aid of another single soul. after all, going up to a total stranger in a bar and making an impression isn’t easy, and it takes a certain amount of confidence, which often comes with age. and i would consider my husband to be an very high quality guy, not some dregs i had to “settle” for. speaks the truth– that time in life was beyond terrible for me.”it’s kind of hard to know this until you really are married to somebody. i just want to shake my head at the moral equivalencies. and if your doing it for “fun”, your much more likely to feel more comfortable with the guy doing it for the former reason. men know that there is a difference between an amazing girl and an amazing girl who is right for them.’m not looking to get married any time soon, but it would be nice to have someone to get butterflies in my stomach from when i talk to them.@olive:” it’s not that a girl would necessarily be disgusted by an unrestricted guy’s past, but perhaps she would not be comfortable moving as quickly as other girls had been, and that would turn the guy off, or make him think she was weird.: “i haven’t spoken to a single young man in the last four years who wants to marry before his late 20s at the earliest. i’m interested in confronting reality as it is today. i do doubt though that, were i a healthy and fit 70 year old, that i’d want to take on the health problems of an 80 year old guy. goldload more comments (3 replies)[–]okletssee 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (1 child)did you still work together when you started dating?. dating successfully requires skills, and the only way to gain them is by dating. must post a clear and direct question in the title. don’t get to 2,000 blog comments without derailing the threat at least a dozen times.@jyou’re right, it’s an exception for young women to go after 50 yo men, but it’s not quite so tiny. my mother had to put her in a home because she could no longer care for her.’t take this the wrong way, but that statement made me feel very sad for you. while  you may not want to focus exclusively on older guys, i recommend that this be one strategy in your portfolio.?) or anything under 25, then really no one shoul expect her to think about marriage whenever she met a new boy.”that was the only tool in the colic prevention arsenal that we had that i was sure would work, temporarily, at least. thing is, i remember a painting rather similar to this one hanging in my grandparents house as a young boy. if you make sure that a group never gets a mainstream outlet, then they are guaranteed to be portrayed as fringe elements.@vd:” it reminds me a little of when my father couldn’t figure out why anyone thought calculus was hard. which is ultimately why i had to simply give up on it and try other ways to filter. which makes the timing rather comical to me…)all this talk of 10 years being too much is bs and only applies at the lower end. funny how two men with opposite experiences can agree readily., she was not near her family, did not have a “career” going and knew that she would be going back to school shortly. actually, i think most regulars here believe that i am supportive of men.” please, please, please, all you lurkers out there, never devalve a woman. 🙁and i would be interested to know the attachment style/family history of mm as well.% of married woman have an n of 1 or 2 (including their husbands). didn’t know it could even last that long… this is a good surprise for me. get asked a lot of questions about my boyfriend’s finances (why else would i date someone much older, right? i know i’m not “one of the good people” and i’m ok with it. when we see a guy in his 30s, we assume he could obviously be married right now if he wanted, so he must be choosing to play the field indefinitely. it also makes it harder for the victim to find a husband. hopefully disney will make some good movies to make up for it. i’m 45 and currently living an all in “love relationship” with a 22 year old flower. that is why men are bitter and angry, then yes, they need to man up. think there’s a “gamer stereotype” that gets passed around among people who don’t know very many gamers personally. i really, really, really don’t think that nyc is full of men halfway to the breaking point when they have coffee with a girl. no “dude, you should just do such and such” or “buck up, man.,question: are you getting any flack from buddies about not closing the deal yet? i think there’s a “gamer stereotype” that gets passed around among people who don’t know very many gamers personally. did ignore some arguments that were relevant to my point which is that marriage is not the point at which loyalty/permanence enters the relationship. the idea of waking up next to ron perelman (i can’t even bear to think about going to sleep with him) is enough to make me want to run away to the other side of the country and wait tables. that is, i ltr’ed before because i couldn’t marry at that time, but planned on it as soon as i could. i would not say the ok cupid chart is misleading, though, as it perfectly represents my target audience. but, after a month (and no sex), the two of you were not so emotionally attached such that your feelings would (or should) impact his decision whether or not to continue the relationship. (where the girl winks at him with a love note written on her lids!, you’ve managed to royally piss off the mras, puas, internet feminazis, and reddit mangina dorks. problem we run into is sometimes, its hard for me to accept monogamy and 'giving up. i couldn’t say that i’m the prettiest girl on the block; so developing a lot of sensuality could be that extra oomph that would push me to that next competitive level.@escoffier 90712 lines from aristotle (a philosopher) have no place in an argument about genetic bases or behaviors. of my friends im the only one that actually sees 35 year old regular guys as attractive, they are pretty much invisible to most girls my age, ime. if she isn’t comfortable with you, whatever, that’s not your problem. grandma and grandpa (maternal) had an 11 year age gap of 17 and 28, her being younger, and they being first cousins. i want/need some way to release that, and traditionally i used my romantic relationships to do so. 🙁 i am super restricted, but even i know that you can use about a million things to create a spark.” i was thinking you were like 5’0″ or something from your posts!, but mostly the pissing match between you and plain jane. men don’t want to be referred to in derogatory terms, they would do well not to emulate mr. i did not receive attention from boys in high school., so, at 36, i am just past a male peak’s value 🙂 good i have secured the relationships already 🙂but then, i bet not one of you would have guessed my age correctly. are you really saying zero men and women followed a purely serial strategy? may now tell your wife: “even if the sky will fall that very moment on our heads, do not worry, as i will support it with my lance”hmmm somehow “lance” seem very odd in that place 😀@zach. i do hope, though, that this young woman starts to hang with a more restricted crowd, and that if zach is frustrated with her, he should move along. the best part of settlers: no two games are alike! (and looking back it pisses me off just a little that he saw it, and didn’t feel he had any right or place to do something about it…)rofl. obviously at this point i’ve realized that he just wasn’t that into me, and i am glad to have the more in-depth input – so helpful! a date is essentially an audition where both parties assess compatibility and attraction. because i started working at a young age, this company trusts me to do this even though i’m quite young. went to a few of their weddings in the past few years and they looked like they had each consciously traded a sexy guy for a secure one. it's also true that the generational gap means we disagree on some things, but my best friend's (30) dad (mid-60s) is the same way, so that's just different personalities. the question is how do you motivate more boys (junior high and high school) to do well enough in school and to go to college in numbers equalling or exceeding the number of women, assuming there is value to that. another sign that men feel the pressure, the frisky asked six bachelors in their 30s about their state of mind after one guy friend worried that he was becoming a “toxic bachelor:”i want to settle down. my problem is, as much as i want to mold them to my way of viewing the world, i currently question whether or not that will help or hurt them in the long run. is this the kind of ltrs i can expect my children to be stuck with until they reach 30?”don’t the emails contain a link to manage your subscription? i'm a softie for anything romantic (sounds like an awesome plot for a british romance novel to me). as it’s delusional to assume that all men age into clooney, it’s just as unfair to assume that all men age and look like perlman. such societies often develop moral concepts such as duty, hierarchy, respect, etc. just think that it makes sense for every buyer to become acquainted with the full range of products. oddly, it's the least emotional/intimate long-term relationship i've had. when i was 18, i did not feel mature enough to be dating a man in his upper 20s or 30s. then she had to get over it to start dating. most are not nearly as handsome and wealthy as he is and never will be.) if she were with a man who truly loved her. i’m fairly certain i learned this by observing my grandparents marriage. in fact, most of the time other people being around annoys me. i'm a 46 yr old woman dating a 26 yr old man, we met at 22/42. what point does a ltr become more important than finding happiness?“spoken like a true daughter of the upper middle class”@vd. if i was friends with charles manson, and a girl who he was hitting on asked me what he was like, i’d tell her he was a fantastic, balanced, sane guy. but then whatever game they were running (assuming as much) it has piqued your interest and has you on your heels a bit which is kind of the point of it i guess. lucky for my wife she caught me before i had any clue about my mmv. i’m 42 and married to a woman 8 years my junior.”i never encountered this and i didn’t seriously date until i was in my 40s after my divorce. my dad had a loooong blonde ponytail, which is now cut short and he makes up for it with a giant ginger beard, and my mother had blonde hair which has now naturally gone brown.“instead of going for a fat, ugly boor she could opt for some ib all-star half his age making a very nice living indeed. in the event that you stumble across someone you are extremely attracted to, you shut that down. i don’t really know anyone that launched immediately into a ltr. when a post goes on and on in that vein for what be at least a few printed pages, it’s a bit worrisome. before marriage, you are not obligated to stay with someone through thick and thin.”one point of moral and civilizational development is to transcend loyalty to the tribe. also said that pre-marital sex between two single people is never specifically addressed in the bible, so its ok. i just think it must have been hard to go from gabriel byrne to perelman. but who knows when it’ll happen, we’re both poor as church mice atm. while that may work sometimes, the girl has to generate sexual chemistry in some other way. of the conclusions won’t come as much of a surprise to anyone who has observed the current state of mating rituals. we were buds for 5 years and i was with someone else. yeah, you’re going to have to heavily screen for the guys who just want a hook-up, but a lot of my girlfriends had much better luck with it than i did. yes, dates can be a lot of fun, but i also can have lots of fun with my friends, without spending all the mental energy of being on my game, making conversation, and spending $$.@susan“i don’t know why it’s surprising or objectionable that people’s tastes would mature as they aged. he was tall, good looking, popular, from a well-off family and going to an ivy league. – “imagine that you are dating a woman and have been for two years.. in attempting to make yourself look highly intelligent, you’ve demonstrated that you can’t read as well as the common howler monkey. i most definitely don’t want to be in a relationship with anyone near the first category. i’m sure there’s a product behind it that needed to be $old. interesting look at hypergamy in marriage markets:genes, legitimacy and hypergamy: another look at the economics of marriage. for instance,kelly just hooked up with a boy:After pe timmy kissed me behind the bleachers.@susanthe problem is what i perceive to be a cake and eat too approach. fact, it is somewhat ironic that as much as girls drive pop culture and as much as they desire taller men (say, 6′ 4″ to put a number on it) you do not see that many 6’4″ leading men. i know a bunch of recent college grads who met their spouses in college, moved to the same area after graduation, and got married a few years later. as long as we communicate regularly enough so i know she is alive and well, not so much.) talk to her at some point to see what’s she’s really thinkingif you really like the rest of her and would like her if she were able to open up and be flirty and sexual then try some combination of 4 with 2 or 3. the manosphere might have started out with good gripes, but susan isn’t the “enemy #1″ here. i am looking for a relationship but not something where i am their absolute everything. our relationship is much more solid than any i have been in before with men closet to my own age. girls are not asexual, but need to establish an emotional connection before being sexual. there is going to have to be a compromise – perhaps the average age at marriage will drop slowly. might find this funny though: during my episode, when i was hallucinating/hearing voices, i heard my bf’s voice tell me that we could talk to each other telepathically, because we were “soulmates. a sidelong glance, holding eye-contact *just* long enough, the movement of a hand or arm, the tone of the voice. i am madly in love with him and we are expanding a baby. also didn’t really feel like zach and this girl are a good match. i met my fiance i had early 30`s sniffing around.. she rode the alpha cock carousel for 12 years and now that she’s about to become a crone she wants a guy with a good job to marry her because none of the guys she really wants will have her. when olive talks about her uncle and aunt’s 25-30 age gap, saying that they are very happy, it always makes me very sad. obviously, you can’t know a person’s life story from what they put on the internet. (if there isn’t, well then, she’s probably fantasizing about sex with other men all month long. i can’t wait for you to meet him (not associating you with him, i just like him).“hopefully disney will make some good movies to make up for it.” so maybe a part of me believes in the one after all., my boyfriend understands how important my career is to me, so there was never a question if i wanted to take chances like moving back and forth from los angeles to new york for amazing opportunities at dream companies or postponing planned dates because there was an event or story i needed to cover. a good sense of humor is important too, but they don’t need to be over-the-top hysterical. this is so sickly sweet it makes my heart hurt! i guess i didn't want to make him any more mad. as to sw, well, i admit i got deliberately weird there. i take your point – in no way should she deceive a young man into thinking he’s going to get a relationship if she’s trying to keep things casual. in some ways, it kind of describes myself and my cohort of friends into our mid-20s… though i felt like i had the r-skills ready to go (similar to coop), just very few compatible girls willing to let me try them out.‘i have a fucking 97% average and haven’t been to class in 2 months, wtf is wrong with you you dumb bitch? somebody charlotte would be best off with a guy who’s restricted, but also in her age range. said much the same thing at dalrock’s–that players need to be shamed along with sluts–and the religious party came after me as if i were the anti-christ.’re now a founding member of the united moral alliance. if we’re talking strictly alpha my vote would have to go to the dearly departed ned stark. i’m with cooper: there are two reasons to date:2., i won’t suggest anyone withdraw from the social scene because they aren’t ready to commit to a marriage, as some of the guys seem to be suggesting. only reason a man needs to worry about getting older is if he wants children. if i hear an accent when it is said i’ll ask where you are from, and that has potential to be a really great conversation.@otcwell, to be honest, i am describing my blue-pill attitudes. when he did open up , i asked him how long he’d felt that way. mean a 4 is right next to the middle of the bell curve., kathy, did you come here just to demand explanations of me which you have no right to demand in the first place, or are you here to continue your vendetta against that certain christian blogger who repeatedly called you out on your silly claims and finally had had enough of you? sure, i can believe jesus was the son of god, just like i am, and every other man is. there’s nothing wrong with judgement, as long as it is done according to proper standards (now that is a debate to be had). marriage makes that more difficult, which is why cohabitors stay together for an average of less than 5 years. what a player, cad and user he would be, having wasted her time like that., i didn’t realize it wasn’t possible for me to not get hurt after a guy suddenly stops responding to my texts after we’d been dating for a month, with no regard to my feelings. you can even hear it when people compliment toddlers, “oh boy, he’s going to break a lot of hearts!@loklandi also went into my wife’s house once (when she was not there), we had a huge fight.: zach and the restricted girllet the general consensus sound forth: it sounds like this is just not a match.”i think that the point is that she’s entering into potential relationships without an end goal in mind. i told him i would go talk to her and figure it out. how ramble wants movies/tv to feature a girl being dumped by her bf for being 10 lbs overweight? would leave my date at a table for a shot at someone better. because i came of age pre-internet and blogs were not available to me, i didn’t discover until after i was already married to a man only a year older than me that as an 18-22 i was supposed to be hot for men at least 10 years older than me.., reneging on a central aspect of the marital compact) because his wife had let herself become fat and gross (more than natural aging should have caused). community organizer, 37 what if i am one of those sad sack bachelors hitting on too young women at the bar? i think most women don’t struggle with fertility before their mid to late 30s. had lost most of the people who would support me if they could.) who were denied counselling and pretty much told to fuck off and man up. goldload more comments (7 replies)[–]mojavered 64 points65 points66 points 1 year ago (19 children)i'm 41, she's 26, we originally met around 2005 when i was dating her aunt.. lots of good paying jobs with cheaper rents in nice, safe towns), or would you continue to try to make it happen in manhattan? those who worry about falling short are often more devout. i don’t necessarily think that he wanted to hang exclusively with me all the time, but i think he felt insecure that i’d meet other guys when i went out with friends. to look at it another way, susan said something to the effect of maybe a girl will want to postpone sex past actual monogamy or even a bit longer, because she is restricted.)it seems almost fetishistic when race is part of a compliment. that’s the manosphere myth – the notion that a woman is likely to cuckold or cheat with some more alpha male during ovulation. he knew the whole time and got kind of embarrassed when he told me, asked if it was a problem.”ltr oriented men who are not interested in taking a rather foolish risk would move on. won’t be a popular answer, but if i somehow found myself in that situation i would either see if i could quietly move up the ceremony at the earliest possible date. it is such a stark difference from how i appear to most of the world, that every single person that has actually come to know the real me is shocked. no one, at least there, has any empathy for anyone who might not put up their best fight in a battle that they stand no chance of winning. obviously, as someone married for so long, the test doesn’t really make any sense for me now. she asked me how old i was but her friend had started a joke that i was 17, so whenever she asked i just said "uhhh.: i agree that some older men “compete well” but 50-something men can (if they’re lucky) compete for 30-something women. but you have never felt this degree of longing before, for any woman. i don’t care how many men tell me that’s impossible, i lived it. ”nothing says “i’m a huge winner in life” like going onto the internet to brag to a bunch of anonymous strangers about sexual conquests. one young woman i know wrote one up but had no response. which is definitely exceptional, and also does not make her special or worth dating by itself. if you’re a hot young woman who can’t make rent in a studio apartment and puts a premium on having clothes, shoes, expensive purses, and travel to exotic locales, sleeping with ron perelman probably looks like a dream scenario.“this is what women think of their aging, not so physically attractive husbands. i think more young women are open to the idea of dating a guy who is older than not, however it gets a bit tired when the topic gets turned into guys in their late 30’s and up going for girls in their early twenties. sense is that what men want is for the hottest, sexiest, most dtf women to have somehow waited patiently for them to come along and stake a claim. the good news is that most women are not looking at older guys – as i said in the op i have witnessed real resistance to this. course, but i’m afraid you’re shooting the messenger. it’s absolutely horrible to do this to another person given the level of avoidable emotional trauma that you caused., i think you should go to a speed dating event and tell every guy that you want to married within the next year and don’t want to waste time if that’s not going to happen, so that’s why you are interviewing a lot of guys speed dating isn’t the venue for that sort of thing. point of an ltr is to find out if their are any deal breakers (other than the inherently obvious that should be revealed by dating) that would warrant terminating a marriage. things you should know before dating a guy with a beard. 😉 but since you made it a question, i’ll answer it simply: because i never want my boys to have to “give up” on it in their personal lives. you’re not willing to wait, by all means zach, cut her loose. i asked desi the same question this summer, when it came up with the girl he met at the pool. you see, on many ways we are working towards the same goal. gold[–]steffisews 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children)my late husband was 28 years older than me.”in a perfect world, this would be the case, but my experience in my mid 20s is that women your age are not frequently selecting for this. however, castigating the manosphere by pointing out that there are men (in the manosphere) who feel that women should not be allowed to drive is a little like saying the democratic party is complete horseshit because there were plenty of liberals on popular blogs who would compare bush to hitler or, sometimes (and this was my favorite) a monkey. honestly, a girl that uncomfortable with sexuality is not something i can deal with. however, and this is important, i am not looking to give girls eating disorders by having females on popular shows be dumped for gaining 17 ounces. wants a susan-style ltr (“at-will” monogamy until further notice, easy unilateral exit, no required consideration of the other person’s feelings).) see her and don’t try escalating as much for a while. quickly do you think a person should be obligated to make that decision after meeting someone? you may have to compete with women who are 23 for men your own age, it’s true. when i went to my 20th high school reunion, i learned that all of my high school friends had already had numerous plastic surgeries. butterflies, i meant, i am excited to see them and like them that much. it’s possible chuck’s awful with women and dan isn’t, but given the two of them are close friends not sure how likely that is. he was sent here to simply prove that humans were capable of being more than animals. other side of the coin is that guys who have been successful in that scene probably will accept a higher n in female candidates than most other men will. purposely re-enacting detrimental behavior (in this case, really dangerous– stis, pregnancy 😯 ), saying you’re setting the conditions is really common among people who’ve experienced abuse or trauma. you might think this was just code for “no jews” but it wasn’t, jewish businessesmen were included (not in particularly great numbers) but gentile movie people were verboten. he can get a 25-year-old whose youth and beauty trump anything my 33-year-old self might have to offer. don’t think zach’s complaining about the lack of date-three sex, but the complete lack of escalation, signalling, or body comfort. some people in the (wo)manospheres need to realize is that life isn’t fair, that they are owed nothing, and that some people – when their high and unchanging standards are combined with their low smv – are destined to be alone forever. my experience with nyc was as an associate at a particularly enigmatic investment bank; the socialite daughter of my boss decided to take me under her wing as a project and and to serve as a kind of publicist/hook-up booking agent. this is not a modern notion – it has been true ever since people began marrying for love. all in all, i recommend that women in their early to mid 20s focus their efforts on men in the 25-35 range. the only thing i had going for me was my craft., so, that jibes with what i am seeing/hearing as well. i mean, a wife that much younger could possibly make a guy feel younger himself, and more “in touch” with a totally new crowd. is a sizable number of men who advocate anything from “deference” to women giving up their careers and autonomy to women giving the vote and drivers’ licenses.: “most societies have strict rules or norms around age differences, and also when a woman is fair game for seduction. it actually has the opposite effect and i’m surprised no one else has pointed this out. was the most emo guy i’ve ever known, but to be honest, that was part of his appeal. but, if you are more radical, or “pure”, you will focus mroe of your attention on more marxist websites and ‘zines, like pandagon or mother jones. (whom she hs known since childhood) and even though she is not a virgin, she still covers her breasts after taking off her shirt. two different animals entirely”i realize that this may be the case for most college kids you know, but very few of the small number of kids around me that manage to actually go to college leave home to do so. gold[–]manypuppies 20 points21 points22 points 1 year ago (3 children)he's ok. imagine my surprise when he decided to tell me the following:“you are such a pretty colored girl. she may feel a lot of attraction, but no trust. i could tell he was actually interested because he left several times to go waltz around the party, saying “i’ll be right back” (every girl has heard that a thousand times before), and came and found me and struck up more flirtacious conversation each time.“and a guy invited me to see a concert, that was going to take a 3hr starlit drive though the desert to get there. obviously they’re outliers, but the principle is the same. but removing such intimacy only serves to get hookups, with girls who don’t want serious. most people coming in don’t know got and were like 😯but the people who do follow the series were bursting out laughing every time a new “house” of animals came up to the adoption floor. what about that skinny emo nathan hardin– his arms were like pencils? i literally folded in defeat at the sigh tof his comforting the kid and said “as pissed as i am at you right now, you’re still jaysson’s father. his then followers got to divy up the captured chicks after they conquered groups and killed the men folk. might sound crazy, but i can’t shake this image in my mind that zach and restricted girl are like two magnets of the same polarity that keep repelling each other: she is guarding her body; he is guarding his heart. for a lot of girls her age on up to 28, “dating”, at least the dinner and a movie type, isn’t much more than an attention grab. i thought of him as the sweet, older, possibly gay guy. they don’t have any game, they aren’t rich, they aren’t assholes, they don’t have high potential income, they aren’t anywhere handsome and one or two are skinny. sure, she’s a spoiled girly-girl, but she’s still alive, unbowed, and un-humiliated at the end of book five (sorry for the spoiler), whereas a lot of the more kick-ass chicks have already gotten their come-uppance. always thought he was incredibly handsome, remarkably intelligent, and one of the kindest people in existence. when they see a woman not doing the same – especially a woman reaping the benefits of marriage and not contributing back – they get, understandably, riled. he tells me every day that i was totally worth the wait. he was very good looking, but kind of a mess emotionally, he had a terrible relationship with his father, who was a high testosterone type who called him a sissy. alone does not make a man more desirable, in fact men must work to both preserve their youth/health physically as well as work to establish those “something else’s”. imagine if every possible guy who might ask her out were able to read the following first:“of course i am open to something serious, but i guess what i meant to say is that i expect to date at least two or three guys before i get married, but who knows. if a significant number of women around 20-25 are going for older men it stands to reason that many young men are keeping company with rosy palm and her five hairy friends (high school girls being off limits and all that).”infidelity, turning into a complete bitch, gaining excessive amounts of weight, incompatible views on religion/politics/potential married life. a vast majority of college aged women (18-23yo) don’t give two shits about finding their future husband, and won’t even start to look at the ‘provider’ role until about 23yo.@jp“i think that you’ve promised them that you are going to rip out their heart at some point. she’s literally addicted to the drama of dating and being in a “is he or isn’t he” scenario. women’s preferences shift more towards dads than cads as they get older (and incidently less attractive)?@ susanomg, j will probably have a good concrete suggestion for dealing with your friend, but if you think he is really contemplating suicide i think you should alert his loved ones and urge him to talk to someone asap. thankfully, she doesn't act like her peers, in my opinion. if you want to avoid the players, then you might have to consider something possibly “serious”.”i can accept that view, and will even concede that it probably has some truth to it. he’s not buying them gifts or taking them to expensive places. to me, that kind of strength and resilience is beyond impressive; seeing as denigrating into sociopathy is pretty much the lannister default.:“deti, the repulsiveness of perelman is in his character (or lack thereof, rather). the person who is critical is turned into someone who is detail-oriented and incredibly discerning, but in a kindly way. only two women who ever liked playing settlers of catan were: 1) one woman who was more masculine than 50% of the guys in the game, and 2) a married woman who only played so she could give her husband good deals on trades.

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in fact, beta men (lower t, higher e) are regularly rated as more attractive by women in studies.’ve said before that i’m not a herd or pack person, someone showing simple sympathy isn’t going to change much. have never however done impromptu performances of sappy love songs in front of a crowd (unless asked for). nice guys usually don’t sell themselves as “nice guys. i think so many guys just totally give up on themselves physically around age 30-35; one of the major social benefits of widespread “game” exposure may be that some guys get a motivational kick to get in shape, learn how to dress in flattering and age-appropriate ways, etc. and i think that our pop culture and msm overlords are, not only not helping, but actively hurting the situation., re: breach of promise, i’ve never read of that in an american context and as late as 1950? it took five years for me to claw up to my managerial position at work after college. as in, a mutually beneficial exchange of conversation, good humor and an interesting experience?“having witnessed the female side of these events with my girlfriends (both as dumpees and dumpers), that is most assuredly not true. delivery time is that volatile and uncertain, i suggest not wearing light gray suits to the office.) he must bring something else to the table to compensate. think the manosphere overstates the tendency of women to drop guys “just because”.’ve seen enough college kids shut that down the person flirting with them to know that is an absolute load of shit. henry-type short story about a man who writes a pua blog on the science of seduction. i once asked my dad if he thought my mom was the only woman he ever could’ve married.“i just got back from cancun for 10 days, and took down four girls there. funny thing was that i went to the bathroom while i was in the young woman’s bathroom and she was telling her mother how she had kicked the guy out because he had never payed for anything, lol., but if you seriously want to be married at 25, that means you expect to meet that guy when you are 23. you are not engaged, nor have you discussed becoming engaged”you lost me right here. guess i would change my mind over time (probably around 25) but i still couldn’t picture myself with a much older guy. but you may have to wait a couple of years for your smv to increase 🙁. it just seems that a large number of woman have behaved “unrestricted” at some point in their lives regardless of their actual nature, yet i know plenty of men that have never acted “unrestricted” either by choice or circumstances.@ deti – you need to read this rational male post:@le bieli never thought i’d be happy to link to rollo, but that post on desire is excellent. it is nearly impossible to find a member of a tribe (religion, society, family) who, all other things being equal, will favor a member outside the tribe over himself. goldload more comments (5 replies)[–]mrjackspade 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)i think i'm close enough to count considering the current age. it’s this default hard-wired bias which probably explains why there is no equivalent to the raw-sex-gay-bar scene amongst women.. like with all other movements, the more radical and pure members would not get invitations to the expensive parties where they raise the money, but they would continue to be a source of new or novel ideas.? i was a younger and more impatient j then, and the constant persistence from a sweaty old guy in a polyester shirt was…. why are these two still together after 2 years if they haven’t even discussed getting engaged?“it’s pretty easy for men to meet girls in nyc. (technically, sloppy seconds is a second man in the same night.*menb-not judging any side here, just observing that not being close to your family must be a horribly lonely experience., but i’m not feeling it, so cut him off after two slow dances. that does not mean i will ever settle for a man from a good family who’s got no personality, humour or education. i have never dated more than 1 girl at a time. sometimes women are way off-base with how they perceive men.@ted di have never said i am restricted by nature. cece even tells jess as she's first considering dating russell (the one and only fancypants) that "he intimidates you because you wouldn't have to take care of him, he'd take care of you.@charlotte:“isn’t the whole point of dating/ltr/marriage whatever to find some kind of joy in another and feel excited at least some of the time? henry-type short story about a man who writes a pua blog on the science of seduction. dated a guy right before my boyfriend who was really … clingy. are correct, that’s how it works for most young people. wonder if maybe she has all that armor up due to a bad past experience. i have an n that is clearly above both the female mean and median. attempting to maximize our chances at this or that does not imply that anything different than that is doomed for failure.)well, it does not take a master logician to figure it out: either a few flings with players, or else some incipient relationships with guys who want her for the long haul but on whom she will bail, unless she changes her mind. i don’t ever want them to look at a woman they love and care about and think less of her because of these types of past incidents. you have opportunities, it’s just a matter of making good on them. his other friend (a third guy) approached me and said “aren’t dan and chuck great? may stay single for years, knowing that at some point they will find what they are looking for., guys like that never mature, so they can't handle "older" women. was slightly more fun than a wet mop, but not by much. a couple in an ltr might visit the other during a semester abroad., every guy who has ever fallen for me has gone crazy for the feistiness, convinced that it signals a high sex drive. for example, polite society and major media could never suggest that petraus was fully justified in looking for sex outside marriage (i.” it should have been making sure he had real feelings for her. second, post college i think most people only go into an ltr if the possibility is there – and spending months or years together confirms that or makes clear it’s not going to work. gold[–]tantricanimal 178 points179 points180 points 1 year ago (66 children)my partner is 20 years older than i am. are assigned to work with someone from another division of your company on a group project.@escoffierwell, it does not take a master logician to figure it out: either a few flings with players, or else some incipient relationships with guys who want her for the long haul but on whom she will bail, unless she changes her mind.“i said much the same thing at dalrock’s–that players need to be shamed along with sluts–and the religious party came after me as if i were the anti-christ. sure, it would be for the women, but it’s insulting to the men.)submitted 1 year ago by theisotope592 commentssharetop 200 commentsshow 500sorted by: besttopnewcontroversialoldrandomq&alive (beta)[–][deleted] 172 points173 points174 points 1 year ago (13 children)my wife and i met when she was 39 and i was 23. recently met a guy at a very nice and lavish birthday party of a friend of my cousin’s who was 27, and my roommate, who is 23, met his friend who was almost 30.”i’ve only had four total romantic contacts in my entire life.[–]facefirst 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago (3 children)my so is ten years younger than i am, and i met her in the middle of the night on a meet up thread in 4chan. i’m out, the guys i seem to attract are generally in their mid- to late-30s.’m not claiming to be in that category or complaining. every divorced man out there has an ex wife who has said things like this about him. the ones i have are exceptional folks, so i’m good with it. for us, the west demonized fat and fatty foods and pork, at least in america, has been bread over the last 40 years to be leaner and leaner.” the man who deflowers her compensates the family for the loss of her virginity; the man she marries should the first man refuse her pays the price one would pay for a widow or divorcee. i have a friend who can can do that, she does it all the time mildly, but can amp it up. for example, nat turner and his supporters killed a lot of innocent people, and that was very wrong. that’s really all i’ve been saying charlotte should do but you’ve responded as if i were making some paleolithic demand. however, it has been noted that among those with post-secondary education, assortative mating is now the norm. really wonder how people come to the conclusion that money can make them happy. me, tywin is pathetic, and his insanely dysfunctional descendants are more than proof of that.@teddi’m afraid that popular shows like the bonoboes of jersey shore and the kardashyuns show that the war is lost. all your hundreds of comments– which i can tell you put tons of time and thought! it’s just that the sex on tv tends to be a waste of time for me. even though they are cast as the “rational, thinking” type in so many spheres.…many men, i think, wake up one day and realize they didn’t really choose to be a bachelor, and that it might be too late to have a family. also, my girlfriends who are in relationships, do date and also prefer guys around their age. maybe that will change after i turn 30, but i’m not really predicting a huge jump.: this ties in with some of what i felt when i was that age, and it reminds me of something we spoke of earlier, of being teenagers and having grown men hit on us. you can feel it– the love shines out from them like a diamond. speaking of which, got to run because that is literally where i need to be in 20-30 min. it might just be a matter of personality type, but my dad is always super willing to listen to me talk about what interests me, as well as compare things between our different generations. a marriage is equivalent to an ltr in terms of ease of ending it. else mentioned a couple who were planning on marrying but they got pregnant earlier than expected? like the majority of young adults today, they are seeking a `soul mate. because christianity has one standard and it has been this way for hundreds and hundreds of years! what if you were forced to describe them without using quotes, what would you say. to a parent like that, you are an angel temporarily disguised in human form. in many cases, that precipitous drop-off has to do with a natural decrease in testosterone, the male sex hormone that allows you to sustain an erection, ejaculate and have an orgasm. are a lot of other tips that you’ve mentioned like emitting seductive eye contact, hand feeding him something, or being honest about what parts of his body you find attractive– but i think that those would be more appropriately used when i actually have a boyfriend(?, it turns out that you did some sort of epic shit test to some guy when you were 14? to me, it seems like the best route would be looking for men who are very ambitious and goal-oriented, being with him, and then developing together through age and experience. we met while i was a waitress at a bar he came in one night and then came in every week for months wooing me making me laugh. was remiss in failing to convey, susan, my congratulations on such a bold post. i’m not aware of any difference in cure rates for clinical depression treated with medication. i don’t mean that in a bad way, i just find it hard to wrap my head around anyone in love feeling ‘alarmed’ when their beloved misses them. he's my best friend and we have helped each other grow to be a better person. henry-type short story about a man who writes a pua blog on the science of seduction. if so, i bet with a bit more time she will open up more (assuming she’s not a true bore at heart) and you may just be the one to bring out her wild side.: “should you stay with your girlfriend, and marry her, hoping such a thing never happens again? it’s not as if every cute guy went for me, though. i don’t need his money, and i don’t care if he never spend a cent on me., call me a crazy person, but i do think that if there was the right “vibe” with a ltr guy, i would be totally open to it and change my non-clingy ways a bit. and, i have heard people on npr, momentarily slip and start to say, “colored pe…people of color”. its more about exactly how you behaved, perhaps despite your socio-economic status. they now have access to men of a wider range of ages. though i will admit i am a bit partial to longest road, and try to place my settlements on brick/wood corners in the beginning of the game, depending on numbers. you know: never cry, never show fear, only emotions allowed were anger and happiness, but only happiness in a surface sense. the results of your proposed test might be interesting & surprising idk. i don’t really know anyone that launched immediately into a ltr.@jp“i think that you’ve promised them that you are going to rip out their heart at some point. but srsly, i never give a compliment i don’t mean., i apologize in advance for what i fear will be interpreted as harsh but …my genuine advice is, stop looking for guys until you are open to finding a keeper., men don’t often want to be criticized for their looks, just as women don’t often want to be criticized for their looks.. she did, so i escalated emotionallybasically i played the role of the woman in our courtship in terms of emotional escalation, and she pushed for sex. before marriage, you are not obligated to stay with someone through thick and thin. began to notice a certain look in his eyes a few months before he opened up, which i attempted to ignore. other words, she seems disappointed that the highest value men aren’t molding themselves to serve her needs just as she wants it when she wants it.• tags: dating advice, dating an older man, david buss, mate preferences, relationship advice, sex differences, the frisky.) i also recall going to birthday parties with screenings”i am so jealous! need to apologize, i have left many an internet question left unanswered. these conditions, a woman may be best off doing her aggressive filtering during the pre-date phase, making use of reliable social proofing indicators as much as possible, and then escalating quickly once the actual romance starts; traditional plans for an extended period of non-sexual exploratory dating/”boyfriend-shopping” and courtship are probably not realistic.@ emilybased on the comments around here, you’d think that girls never get dumped. i am also a very loving person, but i don’t show it in the typical “omg you are the most amazing boyfriend in the world” facebook status kind of way. for loved ones, i’m probably closer to him than any of his family. i automatically make the assumption that all individuals who are adults are independent. for one am glad my husband is only two years older than me. earlier up thread someone, i forget who, spoke about a 19 year old who found it enjoyable to be a stay-at-home girlfriend to an older man. we all thought he was nuts and were very skeptical, but by the end most of us were huge fans, girls included.” everyone in the group was expected to memorize these pronouns and use them throughout the three day program. there’s a certain kind of intellectual intuition that makes many math and abstract concepts essentially transparent. third date yeah, pull the plug, but give him a chance to grow on you first., i suppose that could mean that i’m actually a girl. gold[–]ironite 134 points135 points136 points 1 year ago (5 children)hey, i'm 30 this year. *shrug*please stop painting me out to be a woman hater, you and i both know it isn’t true. and may i say i am mightily disappointed in that pic of mark manson? what point does a ltr become more important than finding happiness?”regardless of how much fun you had, we was working to convince you to a. i’m glad i’m not the only one that noticed this. gets me, is the fact that being willing to forego such a future advantage, now, has no merit.” add in a bit of cooperian eagerness and ability to discern relatively quickly whether someone was compatible and i’d get crushes quickly. and 50 year olds aren’t more likely to be that rich – most of the great wealth out there comes from inheritance – they’ve had it all along. the less other people dictate any part of your happiness, the more they will want to be a part of your life. sure, it occasionally happens, but my boyfriend understands that being in a codependent relationship leads to all sorts of trouble and that spending time apart sometimes is key.’m just saying that his taming did lead to his downfall in the show.) yet is less fire-n-brimstone (and definitely much more erudite) than many –i’d say most– branches of christianity. gold[–]ttaptt 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (1 child)i worry about me hitting menopause and not being attractive anymore. of cod liver oil, lard (and other fatty pork products, like bacon) is the best source of vitamin d. what’s worth to guys like intj, cooper, etc– i’m 21 and i definitely cannot see myself with a guy in his 30s+. but i bet i could have managed a decade, perhaps even a little more”. my mother was telling me how a relationship is not as bad as many older men make it look, like because average guys(like the woman’s boyfriend was) can get sex from women, even hot women.“i said much the same thing at dalrock’s–that players need to be shamed along with sluts–and the religious party came after me as if i were the anti-christ. i would define it as possibility and subsequently assume that the risk is too great. another way, i completely understand where anakin skywalker was coming from when he told padme that he would bring order and peace to his galaxy, because he wouldn’t tolerate anything less.”you had girls in your high school with breast implants? hopefully, little of this will occur in the future, although my daughter has some friends she believes are in denial about being gay. did receive my contact information last night, but i think i’ll just let things die out. but i’m still curious about this resistance: is it a form of jealousy-shaming from their peers; a way of assuring no one escapes the herd, gets to jump ahead in the status game? – “also, don’t worry, i’ve now accepted the fact that i’m really a transsexual lesbian, so don’t take my perspective as though it came from a man.!this was pretty much my college experience:weekend 1: social isolation and boredom. replace father with grandfather, and this describes me pretty damn well, minus the drama. just from what i have read of him –without the pics– he is pretty repulsive. i asked him why and he said hell just froze overrollo and i are making nice. probably has that magnetism that some men are born with. the fratty guy hits on the freshman, and his buddy tells her he is the real deal, would love a girlfriend, asks if she is attracted, etc.@jrd:me: when i was 18, i did not feel mature enough to be dating a man in his upper 20s or 30s. it or not, it’s kind of a big thing in certain parts of latin america.” he’s looking for someone on the same wavelength – nothing wrong with that.@deti“you are all missing the point that i have made five times already. i don’t think women have any idea that many men in their 30s would like to settle down – as you say, all the media attention is on aging women not being able to find mates. gold[–]pretendingcompetence 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)adding a little to your experience, i hope, my husband and i are about 7 months different in age. the good news is that so few women do it, it’s like a secret weapon. “the older we are as fathers, the more likely we will pass on our mutations,” says lead author kári stefánsson, chief executive of decode genetics in reykjavik., apropos of nothing, if i am with a girl in my apartment and she suddenly gets that vulnerable look (i. is it that the fraternity guys they socialize with are primarily unrestricted and so the restricted guys are on the outside?“men are becoming increasingly resentful of this kind of scrutiny that questions their character simply because they are unmarried in their 30s. is that how you refer to elderly women and grandmothers? i’m not sure if you are speaking of your own background or of religion in general.@susan“my sense is that what men want is for the hottest, sexiest, most dtf women to have somehow waited patiently for them to come along and stake a claim. these women’s familiarity with dickens didn’t extend much past the film version of a christmas carol either. well, if i honestly look back at my high school days, most of the boys (including myself) were mentally at least 5 years behind most of the girls in terms of maturity… so it all makes sense. i think, though, that if he were more patient in trying to work with her, things could work out differently. the polish winged hussar struck terror into the cossack horde, no matter how stupid he looked. most of the time it takes two, but once or twice i’ve given a woman the benefit of the doubt. is usually in the form of a combination of things. is he a reformed player who’s trying to hop off the carousel and find a good girl to marry? – “you are all missing the point that i have made five times already. it was too gooey/mushy for my taste, and i told him so repeatedly before he slowly stopped doing it. and my point is, from where i’m sitting, there is absolutely no difference between the two. well, i’ll go play with ladies my own age now. really don’t want to enumerate what’s wrong with the older holly, adding insult to already grievous injury, but since you brought up her becoming heavier with age. – “based on the comments around here, you’d think that girls never get dumped. most of them have told me that “you were way too put-together for most college guys” and that i was intimidating because of my “fashion-y clothes” and interest in getting away from the campus and into the real world.@passerby, sw“well, if you’d just given him the god damn blowjob he wouldn’t have had to lie, now, would he?(restricted/unrestricted is too binary, and forces us to only think about the extremes. also, these would be repentant and eventually righteous harlots and publicans going into the kingdom before the pharisees. real nice guys have heard it in so many of their rejections that the word becomes kyrtonyte.’ve been wanting to say something like that forever but didn’t have the words. unlike most very restricted people, i am in no way, shape, or form a sexual prude. my sense is entirely that she has her guard up due to insufficient trust and comfort. barry ife, cervantes professor emeritus at king’s college london; edwin williamson, professor of spanish studies at the university of oxford; jane whetnall, senior lecturer in hispanic studies at queen mary, university of london. two things together for 40 years then try and pull them apart.: my college gf, her heart definitely got broken even though by the terms of this system which you praise as fine and just neither of us did anything wrong. i want out of the western world, but i can’t leave until i’ve finished what i’ve started, which means getting my children to adulthood. yes, it’s just “one thing”, but that one thing means a lot, especially since the gen appears to kept in shape. i think you underestimate that number of guys that married women who were at best marginally attracted to them, because they didn’t know any better.@tedd:i’m pretty sure that i’m increasing the size of the national debt when i win.. he traded her celebrity and fading looks for his money and lifestyle, and vice versa. think some of you got the impression that i’m going on dates with a bunch of guys just for free drinks and dinner. so, sorta by accident, she became a “housewife” and found out that she did not hate it. the 52 year old who wants a woman in her 20s should get out there and see what he’s got. is a sizable number of men who advocate anything from “deference” to women giving up their careers and autonomy to women giving the vote and drivers’ licenses. for a guy, that’s really a waste of time. his “maturity” is not a plus unless it affords the woman something she can’t get from a guy her own age or a bit older., i feel like i’m pouring it all out on the table here. any case, once again we are talking about the wiring of sexuality and mating strategies. caused you to lose attraction, you are free to end the relationship rather than carry on even though you don’t find her attractive any more. the story say how invested roissy, i mean, the father is in his daughter’s well being? (1 pt = convo, 1 pt = finding a good quality, 1 pt = give a compliment. ”+1and how odd is it that the coopers, zachs, and ted ds of the hus world are pretty much in total agreement here? so, because a woman “matures” into wanting a beta provider, it is no longer considered “bait and switch”. restricted girls need way more than three dates to “loosen up., nyc may have early sex as a common thing, but it doesn’t mean that in such a marketplace she can’t set herself apart with a different strategy.’ve seen college kids who are in relationships shut down another person who was offering (flirting/sex/relationship) when that person was obviously higher in value than their current mate. this post is not a departure from anything i’ve ever said. have known three divorces to occur because the husbands came out of the closet – i really don’t get it. people pretty much figured out their smv and lived with it, and 4s tended to get together with 4s. just hooked up with a guy:He fucked me at the frat house after beer pong. in mind, it depends on the woman’s age – but the female preference for a man just 4 years older is real, and few women will go up 10 years without significant financial inducement. once the flame is gone, girls will break up with guys without much concern over their feelings. actual work part of the relationship comes into play when you have to actually do the living together and raising a family, after the love/infatuation stage wears off. we lead very different careers, however our personal life are similar. the grocery store yesterday, in a 40 minute timeframe, i had 5 guys come up to me and start talking. i think this mismatch occurs because zach is fairly unrestricted and does not enjoy “bringing out that side of her. now, in some places, like la, i can imagine that even below average girls are quite cute (i have been to montreal twice and it seemed like every girl there was pretty…i gotta learn french). and the kind of guy who just wants “fun” from you is not likely to make you happy in the medium or long term. he was an overly romantic/sentimental type, and he would tell me things that would make my skin crawl. in this small study, borg was able to demonstrate a link between conservative moral values and sexual dysfunction.+1post-college i know a lot of women who fall into this category, and as a non-carousel rider i went through this as well. lowe looks like he’s had some work, so i’m not sure that his naural physical condition is much better than that of the mother who gave him two sons and stuck with him through his drug issues.“as jesus says in the bible, prostitutes and tax collectors — those on whom we look down our noses — are entering the kingdom of god before you and me. i knew my current wife for over two months before we started “dating” (we never really dated but started becoming a couple sounds stupid…) and i still didn’t feel comfortable taking any clothes off with her for another month. i’m simply reacting to the unsupportable underlying message in the comment about how unfair it all is to women. she finds it endearing, and usually gives me a “aww you’ll see me soon” reply. because he just got into medical school at wake forest. i’m talking about wider issues than sati, just to be clear. i know beyond all doubt that any process *i* designed to fix all this would be painful at best, and downright inhuman at worst. in fact, he's turning the same age this year as i was when i married his mother and that's freaking me out because he's still a damn child, lol. it was really great–the service was done by the husband of friend from graduate school who was an episcopal priest. is why i would never recommend that a man search for a woman who is physically out of his league. generally results in someone getting torn to shreds, emotionally speaking. yeah, it will definitely help intj if he does the “talk to a girl every day” strategy, at least imhoi always tell scared guys to start talking to everyone (minus children). haven’t you ever experienced events that seem more like you are living in a storybook?“i find it really interesting that men either think of women as sex toys or future wives. most in the manosphere would not say that they want submissive women. goldload more comments (9 replies)[–]cactuscat 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children)some of that might be personality as much as age. a lot of people think that therapy and medication will solve all of someone’s problems, but i’ve found that it’s extremely difficult to find a competent therapist, and i know myself and know what i need better than anyone else anyway. i was very good at winning over girls, being invited to all the cheerleader slumber parties, getting into the best sorority, etc. bringing up the manosphere as if it’s so important, but it’s really not doing you any favors here. people pretty much figured out their smv and lived with it, and 4s tended to get together with 4s. i mean, how many range rovers can one woman drive?. i hate that saying hjntiy but the only thing that matters is actions. don’t know what the answer is, zach, but if i was trying to avoid connection and letting myself actually care about another person (and be vulnerable in return), i would follow a path much like yours. the gods i’m not a “person of the book”. goldload more comments (1 reply)[–]dd225 32 points33 points34 points 1 year ago (23 children)do you get sick and tired of the people at the hospital warning you about the possibility of your children having down syndrome because of your ages? i know this isn’t rocket science, but even a simple concept like gravity can be difficult to understand if you’ve never been taught about it. think of how different these two scenarios are:one man to another: hey, pretty boy! they tend to wear their letters around, have many all-greek social events, etc. this makes her anxious, she is a restricted woman, you are an unrestricted man, so she thinks you’re playing her for sex (because you’re going through the actions by route). the way your mindset is now, i see only two possible outcomes if you do find a guy (or guys): 1) you break the heart(s) of some ltr-oriented guy(s); 2) you succumb to some players and break your own heart, reducing your mmv in the process. at a deeper level though i truly am romantic and wanted to marry both of the somewhat longer-lasting gf’s i had. right now i’m selfish because i have no one to not be selfish for, if that makes sense. goldload more comments (3 replies)[–]kingkidd 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago (0 children)my dad is 14 years older than my mother. however, it has been noted that among those with post-secondary education, assortative mating is now the norm. bumble the beadle in oliver twist, if you want to know his ending! her daughter was the original member of my bu focus group, and was with us for thanksgiving., or seeking, any identifying personal information, real or fake, will result in a ban without a prior warning. others believe men are most attracted to women who are fertile now. he will ostensibly still be better off than if he had settled for a less attractive woman when he was younger. i am readily approached at lounges and bars, and if i’m not interested in them (i. i just want to shake my head at the moral equivalencies. when the former commenter obs said that all women can do is “be hot and lower your standards”? apparently what we think of an ltr is a “mini-marriage” where you pledge fidelity indefinitely, and perhaps have some major deal-breakers like “cheating”, where you break up., passer-by, if you want to have that argument all over again, fine with me, if susan will allow it, but i specfically did not say that the women had no agency, i said over and over that they did. of my upcoming posts is about the book the technique of the love affair, written in 1928 by a gentlewoman. after walking to the station, waiting for the train, standing for 30 minutes on that train, then walking to the garage and driving home in traffic i was fucking exhausted. the man whom i could care for at thirty would be the normal, safe and substantial sort who would come in at six o’clock, kiss me once, sniff the air twice and say: “mm! i’m almost 26, and i have little interest in dating a 22 yo girl 6 months out of college. i have simply pointed out – correctly – that an ltr can be ended by either party at any time for any reason, and the other party will have no recourse if they don’t like it.@pvwshe might be of high enough smv to pique their interest, but if she is seen as prudish because she is unwilling to put out by date 3 or 4, it will be the kiss of death. whichever way the woman chooses might lie to the individual woman. gold[–]durhunter 26 points27 points28 points 1 year ago (1 child)i was born when my dad was 50 years old. he accidentally ran over the mum when they were 10 days old so he bottle fed them and they are like his kids. i don’t hear it much from women, online or offline, though perhaps you would consider women talking up how hot certain celebrities are to be just as bad. my point is, this story becomes a lot more interesting if he has already implied, if only slightly, that marriage is likely in their future. we were all watching shows that featured skinny women in aspirational/heroine roles. there is something very sexy about a man in a position of authority, with gravitas., the “sell by date” for women on a number of male-centric blogs is 25.”well, i’ve seen the opposite in the case of divorce and break up of very long term relationships, but we’ll have to agree to disagree. even in places of worship, people are completely off their rockers. surely, because it can be used as a measuring stick against the “real world” to see how it compares, for better or worse. in an ltr you get to observe someone at their best and at their worst. he starts out as a pussy but gradually gains some courage and self esteem. i searched nyc on okcupid and was repelled (as usual), but pof + the interest of ‘yoga’ has lots and lots of nice ladies — way more than my home. in one case, the wife told her husband (who is now married to an acquaintance of mine) that she had fallen for the landscaper. gold[–]hobbit_socks 17 points18 points19 points 1 year ago (0 children)i want to throw so many hugs at you. the tone is one of “if you actually wanted to have a real emotional connection (coughforonce)…” see how that becomes a judgment on zach’s character? aren’t really communicating any of that in your posts, at least not the ones that i have read. sometimes life feels like that, and all you need is the right song added in to be the movie’s soundtrack.@pvwand the thing is, i know women who are just like the type zach is dating, living in big cities like nyc, where they really don’t belong–high smv value women who are restricted. didn't really know how old she was until she told me she was lying to her mom about where she was.: just stating what i observe around me, and what i gather from the conversations i have with men who are average. is dying before our eyes, though your class might be okay for now. my roommate and i are both not looking for anything super serious at this point, i mean if that develops, it is great. jorah is pretty pussy whipped by her but so was khal drogo, eventually (though not as much as jorah). at that time, i was in college on a full academic merit scholarship–my tuition was paid for, as was my fees for living in the college dormitory. not taking any non-stem classes this semester, so that cuts down on the interactions with girls. honestly, if we are apart for more than a few hours it starts up to some extent.”i’m 5′ 7” the only viable way to meet people is exuding over the top charisma and confidence whilst at the same time not being to arrogant as to get labelled mentally disabled. things any better since the last time you posted here?@jpi’m so sorry to hear that you lost your mom so early! we’re such a ridiculously good match in every way (physically, sexually, emotionally, leisurely, intellectually) that i think fate brought us together. texan, 37that sounds like a term invented by a woman projecting.’s girl seems a little high strung, from his description. in emotional terms you want to snag the guy before he gets older, pickier, more independent, acquires more baggage, and becomes more bitter. walking up the aisle with anything but “head over heels” radiating from every pore is madness. grew up raised by a single mother who worked housekeeping and waitressing, and she told me to find a rich husband and not care about love.“you’re not explaining why she looks at sex through the prism of a 7th grader. look, once we got to see how talented ld was with her work on girls, i don’t think a single woman has made an unkind remark about her (ld) looks. – “that’s why most people spend a period of time together before marrying, and why impulsive marriages occurring after short periods of time often fail. guess is that the rule of “1/2 age + 7” is simply politically incorrect (i. however, it is not always easy to notice because they are rarely paired with taller men or taller girls. if you aren’t where you need to be to get what you want, make a plan and get there.’d say men peak anywhere from 28 to 45, depending on where he starts out, and i consider men who do great with women 45+ exceptions.’ve heard male commenters, particularly those seeking involvements with younger women, at roissy and elsewhere in the ‘sphere quote this maxim seriously. i could wave a wand at myself, removing a third of my iq, and send myself back to the beginning of high school to let my natural alpha take over, i would do it in a heartbeat.”this was the farthest from what i was trying to say when i said guys only date for two reasons. for that small-but-vocal minority to realize that and accept that, instead of churlishly howling on blogs, they need to get on with their lives, that is a challenge that the (wo)manospheres should embraced as a goal.. be careful about linking to he who shall not be named here. while both regret never marrying, both continue to live their lives. i think there’s a “gamer stereotype” that gets passed around among people who don’t know very many gamers personally. and here you are running them down, essentially telling them they are physically repulsive. most days i could barely drag myself out of bed, i could barely motivate myself to do work, and i would break down crying pretty much every day on the train. i just wonder where (if at all) on the foolish scale the men who will eventually marry one of those 4 women would fall…how abbot of me. whether that's a mature twenty-something, an immature thirty-something, or a quirky lady living with three dudes like jess., i think i used the term “sloppy thirtieths” as a joke recently, but it wouldn’t pop into my head when kissing someone on the fourth date. loved when hope spoke about preferring the longer distance, online dating experience because it gave her ample opportunity to understand a man before she would be too intimate with him. goldload more comments (1 reply)load more comments (1 reply)load more comments (2 replies)[–]brb_gottapoops 16 points17 points18 points 1 year ago (3 children)my boyfriend is 12 years older than me, and it's going pretty well. most aren’t, and i know that is the reality of today. i'm only picky in personalities i associate with and/or have relationships with, not appearance.. was sort of it’s own geographic area, but then again, the farthest west i’ve ever been is colorado, so all my impressions of the west coast are taken from media images lol. ”i’ll redeem it for you, and say i have., my bf has dealt with depression and says that getting out into the world and doing stuff is what helps him work through it. when i actually managed to get her to take a piece of clothing off , after we were done making out (which is all it was), she used her arms to cover herself up as we were watching tv. almost certainly over-diagnosed at this point (you”” had mania plus hallucinations, so this is not directed at you). speaking as someone who fell hard for a guy, only to discover later that he lied about me giving him a blowjob at a party, no, i don’t think it’s fucking immature to wonder how a guy might act once you’re out of sight. was little to no resentment of their previous flings, as their husbands had made the rounds as well. but, if you’re interesting in generating a real connection with someone (by that, i mean more than lust! they’ve already lost one man and don’t want to nursemaid another. i actually think it had the opposite effect though, because i read some of his other posts and heard “all you can have is xyz, quick bullet now or slow starvation later. she may turn out to be a wildcat once you clear her filters for comfort and intimacy.@jp“what cooper hears: “again to reiterate, i am not suggesting that women don’t date cooper, i’m just encouraging women to broaden the net and not be suspicious of men who have some advantages over cooper. i think that as time passes the gap seems to shrink, and if both parties are in it for each other it eventually fades into the background. she let me in and i put them on her pillow. people who believe themselves to be devout are generally merely sanctimonious. but most of them got attacked, with the men getting killed and the women getting captured… 😀 only a few civilizations managed to get strong enough every once in a while to overcome this barbarity., on the blogs were the adage gets a lot of credence, there are older guys who think that they can continue to be attractive to very young women into their 60s as long as they work out. so to create a child, then a big marriage… that seems backwards to me.) this is eyebrow-raising for more than a few reasons, but it’s worth noting that lena headey is almost 40..Permalinkembedsaveparentgive gold[–][deleted] 32 points33 points34 points 1 year ago (4 children)haha yes! a 50 year old man is more likely to be in the “well off” league, but well off doesn’t get you candice swanepoel. that means there’s a strategic advantage for women to snag an older gent—he’s had more time to accumulate resources and stability than his younger counterparts, which could make him a more viable partner and father. i’m finally back to only 2 days a week on site though, so i’m comfortably back in my own cube wearing a pair of blue jeans and a steelers shirt today.’ve heard mixed things about online dating, but what else do you expect?)@suei proposed to my wife using a song in my wonderfully twangy accent. or go on about how religion has fallen away as a mainstay of western culture. i was 40 at the time, and honestly, pretty shell shocked. seeing hubby as a capable loving involved father makes him more sexy to my eyes and it brings another level of his personality that i never saw before. unless a woman was desperate and knew her smv was low, she would never take herself out of circulation for a guy she was not interested in. truth is, that isn’t very fair on whatever poor woman is with me at the moment, which is why i’m working on it.@ susan walshsounds like the guy i mentioned yesterday, who told me about the constellations and then kissed me. again, if the intent is “pure”, nothing wrong can come out of it. canadian girls didn't get it so he never got a real date after he moved to canada. look forward to season 2 of girls, but i really hope not to see lena dunham’s boobs any more. gold[–]neonbatman 33 points34 points35 points 1 year ago (0 children)my husband is ten and a half years older than me. i know firsthand that women in the same age group (28+) already face similar reactions from men, even if they do appear young and in-shape. since i began reading in the ‘sphere, i will occasionally slip in a manosphere trope like, “would you like me better if i were more submissive? if men can’t handle the truth, then they will whine about the world like the jezebelles do and merit being taken about as seriously. i’m just starting to seriously wonder if the methods/time for “meet and greet” has much to do with personality.@jno, but if you seriously want to be married at 25, that means you expect to meet that guy when you are 23. prefer to take the measure of the real world, and come up with ways of dealing with it.’ve had two cases where the attempts at suicide failed. high-quality men give the relationship a fair shot and it still doesn’t feel right, they don’t stay with women just for the sake of being with someone. won’t take him to a house party where two buck chuck flows like water, but i will bring him along for some casual barhopping. after reading a few of the comments, i couldn’t take anymore. the ancient hebrews did allow a man to divorce his wife provided he gave her a “bill of divorcement,” returned her dowry, etc. whichever way the woman chooses might lie to the individual woman., i can’t recall any talk of perelman’s looks, i’m just offering my personal opinion.

Why You Should Date an Older Guy

ok cupid is a young demographic, so the chart primarily shows who is attractive to young people. there is nothing inherently wrong about getting busy on the first date, imo. since high levels of this masculinizing hormone interfere with the immune system, the theory goes, macho men must be extra-fit to withstand the handicap their extra testosterone confers. had a brilliant takedown of players as being in complete opposition to christ’s teachings, and they didn’t like him either. many ways, la has more in common with phoenix that it does with san francisco. too many men will look at these comments and say “see? you can either take some time and see if her defensive walls come down, or you can admit failure and try again with someone else. gold[–]sairyn 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)most states have a chapter of the freethought society.@ zach:@ the womeni’ve also never understood the appeal of dating “for fun”. thats the only thing on this whole post that keeps me out of the cave with cooper, though for totally different reasons.@lokland“i’m 5′ 7” the only viable way to meet people is exuding over the top charisma and confidence whilst at the same time not being to arrogant as to get labelled mentally disabled. there’s the part where i help to lard up the generations-yet-to-be-born with massive unpayable debt that will crush their hopes and dreams for decades to come.)still struggling with the concept of sensuality but i realized that it may be just as important as femininity when a bunch of hus guys started talking about it on a thread a couple of months ago. i almost didn’t want to start hooking up with her last night because there was no sexual chemistry and no chance it would go anywhere further.@ramblefor some reason, that story, and the fact that you did not have any friends that were below a 6in high school i was the funny sidekick to the beautiful girls. i’m having a hard time seeing why you’d accuse me of trapping this man. though, any suggestions on where to meet guys specifically in new york? i’m betting you’ll have a girlfriend by next year. i think it takes pretty heavy parenting to motivate through that, and a natural degree of intellectual competitiveness on the boy’s part. i do know that women are more likely than men to have their depression treated either with talk therapies or with medication. 😉 perhaps restricted folks don’t need massive amounts of dating and prior experience before settling down?@rolloi do think you might broaden your age range to about 20 years instead of 5-10. you’re not explaining why she looks at sex through the prism of a 7th grader. now if i know the girl very well as well, i probably will just keep my mouth shut and not lie. btw i was raised in a flat in a house typical for socialistic projects: several families from very different backgrounds. gold[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (2 children)i'd love to spend a weekend vacation at your place. your relationship choices on what “may” happen given a medium to large age gap is still just speculation. accepting your faults one thing, but refusing to improve another. an aside, i find it amusing that when it comes to the age difference in relationships, the showbiz people always seem to get a free pass on that one, whereas the common mortal is always frowned upon. gold[–]eclectickittycat 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (5 children)so is 29 years older. i welcome rollo to the debate, i believe he is genuinely interested in sharing ideas. why would women judge their husbands harshly as they age? telling women they are hot fuck material but will never be marriage material is an insult to them. this last item represents a significant opportunity for women in their early 20s, who are near their own reproductive peak.@maggiealthough in real life, he was supposedly more like atticus finch. it calms me, and i suppose if i was honest i’d say that being with her just makes me feel. now, i wouldn’t have assumed that that’s what you meant, but it’s what you said. not surprisingly, the “independent” types seem to work out best for me. we men probably tend to try to push the whole “sharp female depreciation curve” thing a bit more than we need to because it is one of the few enclaves of male power left in the smp, so take it all with the proverbial grain of salt. in the other incident, the female dc blogger sought to get laid by roosh – which she did – and then wrote about it. each person was asked to share their name, where they are from, and what pronoun they wish to be addressed by. i’m sure you are happy to be alive regardless of your disadvantages your kids will be happy too i can assure you. the decimation of aeropsace changed the region a lot, as has the reduction of the energy sector and the complete disappearance of ag (as ever bit of flat land in la, orange, ventura, riverside and san bernardino counties has been paved over). if you can learn this way of relating to men, you’ll have a competitive edge over women who haven’t got a clue. probably pretty topsy-turvy compared to a female method of help…? there been a post on the massive upcoming intragirl unplanned war for marital supremacy that will break out in the major metro areas in the coming decade? each experience can help you identify better matches and polish your own skills, without this fear of promiscuity and destroying lives by “using people for entertainment. last time i was attracted to a guy more than 3 years older than me was in high school. nothing serious, but the thought did enter my mind and my mind said, “well before we go, we gotta do all this stuff then” and boom, my life became much more interesting.”well, i guess i understand how you mean it, from a “healthy point of view”… but wait a minute here, hold on. met at a library, and it was weird for about 2 minutes, but we really hit it off and it's been prett great ever since. our libidos are similarly matched, and he is in very good health. now i will admit i found the bleach blonde to be hot in a “boner test” kind of way, but that means very little to most guys since lots of women pass that test. no guarantees, of course, as many of them have nothing to their name save a mildly humorous twitter account…but you never know who you might meet!’s true that as a man gets older, he will have a tougher time dating 20 year olds. there are loads of rationalizations that essentially say that if a woman is taken in by a player she deserves it. we've been together over 10 years now, and every single day i am thankful he's my hubby! suddenly the body they’ve enjoyed and “owned” is the primary source of nourishment for someone else. granted, a month later he turned 25, but he was wiser, more eloquent and more mature in the spiritual/emotional sense than even many men who have years on him. now, they may have been misinformed, but it wasn’t a result of their wide breath of reading. she’s practicing the principle of least interest by hedging her bets, and so that she doesn’t seem like (or feel like) a wallflower! however there is a not insignificant (yeah, yeah, double negative, deal with it) minority of women are strongly attracted to any reasonably well preserved older men who hold positions of even modest perceived power. i would considser the ‘sphere’s attacks on the looks of the epl author and her new husband, who are also pretty average looking, in the same view. i’m sure that is true for you re men in the 35-40 range. – “i’m afraid that popular shows like the bonoboes of jersey shore and the kardashyuns show that the war is lost. assuming no deal breakers show up and they can manage some of the more intrusive obstacles, the end goal is kids and marriage. while that may work sometimes, the girl has to generate sexual chemistry in some other way. but the one here is not – i just get the sense that for whatever reason a lot of trans people are looking to become rabbis. if you don’t put up a picture your profile will basically be invisible and you can kind of be “incognito” and look to see if there are any guys who look like they’d be worth meeting — and if so, then put in the effort to put up pictures and fill out the essays.“overheard today at a shawarma joint: four women in their early twenties talking about men. we can have the best mating strategies in the world, but if the raw material is no good, neither will the end product be.”but my “facial hair” experiment has so far shown that despite my wife’s general protests at facial hair exceeding the mustache and chin shrub i normally wear, she does seem to enjoy a bit of scruff when she is ovulating. sexual conservatism was not lauded…me: in retrospect, a friend from college fit into this category…. its far too easy to find layman’s (heh) examples of this dynamic to think it’s only about the rich and famous.” but the vividness of the imagery, the repetition of the theme, the length of the post, etc. maybe i was just oblivious, but when i was married in my late twenties, i don’t recall receiving unsolicited adoring attention from women in their early twenties. it was like a light switch had been turned on in a dark room. we both face out on our sides of the bed, but he reaches an arm back and rests it on my bum.” it’s more like listening, asking questions, not judging, not invalidating feelings, and not advising.@ jthere may be better examples, but my point that “doubting but doing” is better than sanctimony still stands. lol in general, i would say his “betafication” made him even more attractive and suited for an ltr and in most cases wouldn’t lead to his death.@intj:“no i’m not talking about “holy”, but just having standards in general.@susan:“we definitely need some bad boy shaming, and parents are the ones who should be doing this. in fact, most people that know me casually might say i’m completely without any detectable emotions. also my friend maridee’s dad winked, squeezed my knee and called me curvy girl while no one was looking.“ltr oriented men who are not interested in taking a rather foolish risk would move on. point about the gold digger suspicion – i guess that makes sense.”well, you’ve managed to royally piss off the mras, puas, internet feminazis, and reddit mangina dorks. remember being quite amazed that my first bf liked me – i felt like i should turn around and see if he was actually talking to someone else.) i’m not a people person, and this is but one way it manifests. askmen took to its readers to get to the bottom of it, and asked them what they thought was the ideal age for marriage. because if everyone just controlled themselves a little bit more, this would never be a problem. my strategy worked for me, and i ended up with an older version of cooper. and a woman deserves to have a husband who sees her as a hot, younger chick, and not someone who he may want to “trade in”.. david buss’ study of sex differences in human mate preferences found that preferences around age were quite consistent for women:ideal age difference for women: male 3. i would skip classes and hang out with him at his house, one day he admitted that he thought i was cute and the kinda person he'd like to live with him and 3 months later i moved in! and that is what draws and transfixes people, despite the most utterly mundane circumstances. will be a horrifying moment when all is made clear to all parties just what has been going on. most guys i know think that way as well, but plenty of girls i know have said they could make out for hours with nothing else.@ charlotte i am very open to a ltr especially if i hit it off with someone. it makes me really, really sad to hear that religious people told you that you were “evil”!, in central and eastern europe, are blessed in that even feminists protests may be enjoyable to watch:ufilf (per analogy to milf):Ukrainianfeminist i’d love tomet. every year older a man is past a certain age (his physical peak of 28? there are many ways to express sexual interest without actually having sex, and no i don’t mean blowjobs.@escoffiereven men who meet this floor still often cannot find women who want to marry them because, remember, most women don’t want equals, they want to marry “up.@gayatriif a woman needs resources to raise a child she well might look for older men, though. every girl who gained 10 pounds if her boyfriend broke up with her. the point zach was making is, most men don’t get anything but blue balls from kissing and petting for hours on end. the results with in the first 24 hours pretty much confirm that short guys aren’t just not wanted but actively hated against. like this comment from the cappy cap link:“no one seems to understand when i say that if i knew i was going to die the next day, i would amputate, cook, and eat as much of my body as i could, just to see how it tasted.: the front page of the internetGeorge and amal clooney: 17 years apart. gold[–]thecoffeetoy 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)m e t a.@detido you realize that a large number of ordinary average men in their 30s to their 50s are going to resemble this man (balding, paunchy, out of shape)? an unrestricted woman would be sexing up cads/players, but a restricted would not, correct? women are attracted to mastery, but for men, a woman being a master at something is either neutral or a mild plus that won’t override more primal smv factors. if i am not as interested as i feel they are, i would make it known far before it got even slightly escalated beyond that. comments like hers implicitly tell the manosphere “yes, you’re right.”for sure, but that fool will just be the end of a long line of fools by the time she walks down the isle. i remember one time i complimented a girl on her singing after a talent show and she later sent me an email gushing about how much that meant to her, because she knew i didn’t hand out compliments lightly. after his son got his own place, he moved back in with his wife. by the time i met my husband, i saw an attractive guy with an artistic bent who was getting his mba.@jpthe actual work part of the relationship comes into play when you have to actually do the living together and raising a family, after the love/infatuation stage wears off. my body really did change and want that so its okay. there have been times in my life when i felt very desirable and sought after, and other times when i felt lame and unattractive. if nothing else, hanging out here has taught me that people are capable of doing the same thing with a different person and getting a completely different result.) because if i was tired when i was young in my 20s, it wasn’t going to get any better with age unless i physically developed myself to counter the stress and b. may earn a portion of sales from products that are purchased through our site as part of our affiliate partnerships with retailers.@ted dnot exactly, but close: it *should* be clear from my commentary that i want everyone to be more restricted, in behavior, attitude, and desire. i’m getting the feeling that being a high need baby is something common that was not recognized for a while i’m almost positive i was one according to mommy’s tales of my babyhood and i think hubby was one he was supposed colicky and cried for hours too, but my mil was not a very touchy feely person and hubby needs human touch for comforting a lot, like is pretty much the only thing i can do when he is upset hold him and touch him. each of my children has a 5% chance of being born with a mental handicap, and a 5% chance of being born with end-stage renal disease (low, but still higher than average and enough to scare me). this blog is getting definetely better with more female commenters 🙂as for your comment, think about it that way: imagine you have male friend, who is 45 years old. he’s a member of your tribe, she’s not. a fact that continues to muddle the expectations and reconciliation among the 30-something women and men. i entered a parallel universe where people don’t know what dating is? when we were introduced i do not think we were introduced with the idea that we might get together. run, don’t walk, away from any man who wants to lock it down right away. the facts are kinda against them in this case though. course, remember i don’t believe in spinning plates either. probably sounds like something i tell myself to make myself feel better, but hey, who’s to say it’s not at least possible? in this post i refer to the quality guys who date numerous women and exit quickly when they perceive it’s not a match. gold[–]mildiii 50 points51 points52 points 1 year ago (14 children)so how long did you know him prior to your first date. of course this will involve a large amount of beer. and i am not necessarily willing to make that decision on the basis of one date with you. my opinion, 27-35 really is the sweet spot for men., an older man and a younger woman is a much better formula for marital success. gold[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)32yo male, dating a 20yo woman. like the age gap is built in from the get-go. :/and what she says would not be so crazy (like soulmate, no condoms, etc.“a college degree and a solid corporate gig used to be more than enough. datingwhat men wantwhat men want in womenwhat women wantmost popularbeautythe 17 greatest beauty products of all time, according to youentertainment25 so-called "bad" movies you need to stop feeling guilty for lovingfashionhere's every single piece from victoria beckham's target collectioninspiredthis is what women who supported donald trump really think of the new president nowmoviesthe real story behind beauty and the beast is not what you thinkby elizabeth logan2 hours agomovieshere's how much emma watson is getting paid for beauty and the beastby chelsea stone5 hours agomovies10 reasons emma watson's version of belle in beauty and the beast is better than the originalby christopher rosa6 hours agohair14 cool hair accessories that won’t give you scrunchie vibesby jennifer mulrow6 hours agosex tips7 sex positions that involve minimal eye contactby self8 hours agofashion newsfashion just had its most racially diverse season ever, according to a new reportby faith cummings9 hours agorelatedentertainmentchrissy teigen opens up about her postpartum depressionbeautytoo faced just teased new palettes that will look h-o-t with its mascaraentertainment'the bachelor' recap: and the final rose goes to. 😉but srsly, this was a relationship that developed over a period of about 7 years, and he was a mentor to me.”so, ask yourself this: what do you think would happen if every guy who might approach you could read your post at #758? this is an example of the thought processes constantly running around in my head, and on occasion keeping me up at night. would love if we have a hus got club, much like our earlier austenite appreciation society. as in, i would feel absolutely terrible if they were sure i was the person for them and i was more interested in succeeding in my career at the moment. that attitude, from both men and women, are the main reasons why i deconverted. you can sit it out and remain on the sidelines (though you didn’t).” while women may enjoy or benefit from talk therapy more than men, much depression will not be alleviated by listening alone. gold[–]t-a-w_byzantine 20 points21 points22 points 1 year ago (13 children)come on, man. i have always acted older than my years and we get along quite well. you may know, i love employing stories to better relay a point. if an ltr is terminated without consideration of the other, so to is marriage. i doubt i need to tell you that, as most women are repelled by that kind of eagerness. – “i would love to see you formulate a strategy for that! 🙂@ intj:that reminds me, i’ve been meaning to ask…how exactly is your goal to get a girlfriend coming along? i find the older people get, the more comfortable they are, both with their sexuality, but also with who they are as people. i don’t need them to be my go-between to god. women who were more willing to “put some skin in the game” or “cowgirl up” were considered true nyc badass women.@ zachobviously charles manson is an extreme example, but it’s absolutely true. i’ve experienced heartbreak, and i’m better for it. – otc said – ““if you don’t like that, ignore those women”the problem is, if you’re a 1 out 5, then you’re ignoring nearly everyone, since it’s relative.: “my guess is that there are unrestricted men who have not had the opportunity to indulge their true sexual preferences – they look restricted but they are not”this is probably true. i got my share of odd glances and judgmental glares, and as you can imagine she only has the worse end of it directed towards her. if a man dates many women and is single past a certain age, women often make the assumption that he must be flawed in some way, a womanizer or a man that refuse to grow up. i don’t have much patience for stupidity (even my own if/when i recognize it) and i don’t generally believe in taking thing slow once i decide to go. he’ll sit in the swing for a while…william doesn’t really cry unless he is hungry, not even a dirty diaper bother him but he needs to be on top of someone all the time to be this calm and he doesn’t like his cot. also, this is going to be harsh (and not in the escoffier harsh mold).”i actually got that piece of wisdom from a married mother of four. if after ten minutes or so, it hasn’t gone anywhere else, it’s just kind of a big tease. because i am trying to live this, and see myself falling short all the time. they have been dating for 2 years and they have never discussed the longer term? goldload more comments (5 replies)[–]um_hi_there 110 points111 points112 points 1 year ago (5 children)the last man i dated was 10 years older than i. should preface this by saying that i relate to people just fine, but prefer to show how i feel rather than say too much. on the other hand, i’m not sure he would even call them “overweight” – just too “healthy” or muscular. they’ve been dating for almost 2 years now, i think. the money and success can compensate for the age to a certain point, but most men look too ‘tired’ after 50. asked desi the same question this summer, when it came up with the girl he met at the pool. accepting your faults one thing, but refusing to improve another.“one of my favorite things to do is to walk seductively through small crowds. however, there are plenty of sensitive guys out there that will be head over heels for a girl soon after meeting her (look, some girls really do have beautiful eyes and smiles, and we get transfixed) and they should know that it might be really important that mask their real feelings and pretend to be less interested than they really are. agree with otc however, its all in your head requires a different solution than actual problems. obviously they’re outliers, but the principle is the same. the problem was that, while he loved his wife and had never been unfaithful to her, she didn’t provide him with the admiration and sense of sharing goals i did. all those raids and gaming bullshit really bring people together i guess. one guy told me to take off my clothes, and i promptly went to the bathroom and changed into my pjs, lol!@ susan,An upcoming post about the technique of the love affair sounds interesting., i promise you that i have never once on this site posted how i truly and honestly feel without some major pre-filtering.’as someone who comes from a family with 0 divorces, i think, barring extreme abuse/paternity fraud/ infidelity etc. however, women aren’t necessarily the only ones to blame for the unfairness. that probably explains why i dated him for so long even though he was a dumb jock. spring day, my co-workers and i were coming back from lunch and we saw a pretty girl., there are plenty of sensitive guys out there that will be head over heels for a girl soon after meeting her (look, some girls really do have beautiful eyes and smiles, and we get transfixed) and they should know that it might be really important that mask their real feelings and pretend to be less interested than they really are.: “i said much the same thing at dalrock’s–that players need to be shamed along with sluts–and the religious party came after me as if i were the anti-christ. and, i understand that people like susan say, “well, duh, every girl already knows that”, but, personally, i am seeing something much more schizophrenic.”i think you know it when you are with someone you can see as your lifelong mate, and i believe in that intuition. why you assume that the rules of dating are applicable to ltrs in uni that has most of us shaking our heads.@jackie“seeing as you’re already married, no problem, right? if smv is a measure of how sexually attractive a woman finds a man, then men peak at 28. my husband puts emotions before sex, too, and we fit very well together because of that. is a great webcom creator and has not had an easy time.@sw” i like to think of people as walking storybooks, and for one brief moment in time two stories intersect and the possibilities that could have arisen from that moment are infinite. in fact, i think the oldest so among my early twenties friends is 25.@jackiethank you for making me feel like i have admirers when i have been feeling sorry for my adolescent self! gold[–]dramboxf 26 points27 points28 points 1 year ago (0 children)i'm only twelve years older than my "step"daughter, and 16 years older than my "step"son. you can feel it– the love shines out from them like a diamond. other inquire whether i was purposely seeking an older man when i met him. this idea that women seek different traits for ltrs is not exactly novel or new. if your future with your boyfriend is important to you, these things might take a lot of talking and compromise to fit into your current life. date was fine, but again the “sexy” problem reared its head.”it’s pretty easy for some guys to meet girls in nyc — the ones who are good-looking, outgoing, and charming. i like whispering in a man’s ear, gently placing my hand on his thigh, tracing a man’s palm with my fingertips, speaking in a smoky seductive tone, and many other things”crap, now i have to rush home quicky and have my wife take care of this raging hard on you just me. i’m 22 and i have seen guys who are 10+ years older that i thought were attract but never would get involved with them with out an incentive (established in his career, good finances, maturity ect). my wife does not exactly have warm memories of me pawning off my daughter in such a manner., you’re saying that all men want to be alpha – dadcads. glibness, guile, and passive-aggressiveness are not hallmarks of the alpha.@loklandi have heard similar stories re waits for counseling at american colleges. should not be surprising that men, in general, cast a wider net and focus on the more fertile. on to that the inability of an undergraduate degree failing to stimulate much beyond an iq of 11 and its a recipe for depression. most women don’t do that, and in fact most cannot. a little birdie told me that hot professors get hit on a lot by female students. other reactions you see are guys (somewhat understandably) shaking their heads at charlotte’s perspective on dating, because it’skind of typical. the father’s age also accounted for nearly all of the variation in the number of new mutations in a child’s genome, with the number of new mutations being passed on rising exponentially with paternal age. they often get played freshman year once, get even more cautious, and promptly become invisible to the frats for the remainder of their college years.)iow, if a man wants to marry and have a family with the hottest woman possible, he should act when he perceives that his mmv is highest, which may mean partnering with a woman who is 30 or more. but women often scare men off if at 21 or 22, they are saying “you are the one i want to marry”. what the heck, it’s kind of #11 too – my mom almost died when i was born, i almost died when i was born, and a doctor told me i may have pcos. their same-age male peers are potentially more interested in relationships, now that they’re the younguns again (which means fewer options).@ susan, jpmoving east was the best thing that ever happened to me – i didn’t have to compete with california girls anymore. seriously, that is at least three sds from the mean!. i can think of a number of guys who you should share that thought with. truthfully, i think jesus christ may have been the biggest mistake “christianity” ever made. that oddball went on to marry a really sweet girl. summarize:dating a man 5-10 years older carries significant benefits and minimal downsides. age gaps may be fine initially, but as people age things change.”i’m sorry deti, but i really think you’ve gone off the rails here. they breeze in, charm a couple of young pretty ones, have their buddies keep it spinning while they work the room, assess their probabilities, and then either close a deal or ripcord. needs to be a manual that expressly notes that hooking up does not automatically mean that you are now bf/gf. i’ve known several examples of people from different countries getting together! i was having a pleasant conversation with this one foreign student, there was some flirting happening between us, when this dude in his 70’s stands there looking at me talking to the girl(creepy as hell) and when i went to my seat the guy goes up to her, sits next to her and starts chatting her up. 🙂just two things: 1) it sounds like you already have an idea of what you’d like in a partner, without having made a 30-point checklist, which is really great! i did not receive attention from boys in high school.“on top of that, her language and concerns (sloppy seconds, thinking he would brag about going to second base) would suggest that she is, at best, emotionally stunted in this area and, at worst, full of real hang ups. no longer was able to choose from the california girls. cooper’s difficulties have been a direct result of flying loose and free with intimacy, trying to make a girl his gf after one night of hooking up. after two months, the woman at work asks to get off the project.“also never really understood the female obsession with making out. when i studied in panama, one of the guys in our group went on a mission to purchase construction paper and popsicle sticks and enlisted our help to make the game. i know that she’s the one who has less to loose than me in the end, but so what? i actually want to cry when i think about him being all by himself for so long. more comments (9 replies)load more comments (4 replies)load more comments (1 reply)[–]atheist101 33 points34 points35 points 1 year ago (0 children)dat upgrade. we were together for 8 years and the last few he pretty much had no job. and the alien logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc.”i guess she just should search to making her social circle larger. but, if you’re interesting in generating a real connection with someone (by that, i mean more than lust! i am aware, though, that jeff took nancy to the hayride last weekend, which is fine. it was my first year and lots of the moms thought it their duty to set up the young, male teacher. gold[–]borv 125 points126 points127 points 1 year ago (0 children)i think he is more concerned about the baby getting expanded than the old dad., you might as reasonably have said that he is the tallest man on the show because the men you regard as tall are much different than many of the definitions you’ve seen. continued to call when he said he would and replied to messages fairly quickly. it's like when richard burke started dating monica in friends, even though he'd watched her grow up. on top of that, she’s physically attractive, smart, and has a lot going for her. to me, if you use online dating as a guy under 25, i feel like you are just cruising for a banging and not looking for anything real. her family doesn't approve, but mine is ok with it. i’ve done it, of course, and have witnessed some awkward exchanges between their twentysomething boyfriends and my own. it was quite strange to read all these avowedly devout people get angry at me for saying that the player lifestyle is immoral. but when i got to my early to mid forties, and was married with two kids, suddenly i was getting a lot more attention from the just college graduated clerks in my law firm. i am in the fashion/beauty industry so i work really hard to stay in shape and look my best physically and keep well emotionally. (this also goes to show that not all men want somebody who’s super-submissive. “fun” is hanging out with my friends, kicking back a few beers, and bs’ing on all the crap we’ve been bs’ing about for a decade together. susan indicates that he probably wasn’t getting laid (understandably) in his marriage because he was fat, sweaty and gross. the son of a bitch cheated on and then later dumped laura ingalls.’ve been reading through the comments on slate, under rosin’s response to fox’s article war on men – where everyone there figures the best response to complianing men is to blame them further. i’ve loved everyone of them and i sometimes file away the longer ones for later reminders. i’m not criticizing your right to like whatever you like; if you want to fantasize about that little dwarf, you absolutely go right ahead with that. i’d imagine that having access and interactions with so many folks might make it hard to tell the “good” from the “bad” on certain levels, which then requires you to spend more time with them to figure it out. because that is the age range i find most attractive, and since i’m the one doing the work, it’s up to me to choose my target. zach hasn’t built up the requisite level of comfort with her, and he’s kind of putting her through the unrestricted paces, which she is reluctantly complying with.” i might need to get my fingers in that pie tomorrow. (they have tvs in front of all the treadmills and elliptical thingees. i’ve advised them to set their preference as older, don’t check the box for guys under 25. ironically, i had already decided to follow one part of his advice… after realizing i hated my major -i figured it would please my parents/god/whoever would punish me hardest -i decided i’d go round the world and have adventures. you’re really interested, you should follow some of richard shweder’s work on moral psychology. is hard to read tone, so if this is tongue-in-cheek and i missed it, woops! i’ve known several sorority women who would not join if they had to do it again for this reason. marriage is a legal contract, and you don’t enter into it until you are sure of your feelings and commitment to a person. but, if so, that would be 15 or 20 seconds they would never forget, let me tell you.“and yet, despite the fact that the ancient hebrews succeeded in a scenario that most guys can only fantasize about while playing wow, there is so much anti-semitism in the ‘sphere.’ve been trying to accept certain things about myself since i was 15. know that we men tend to impose a kind of morality tale on this where the high n woman finds herself w/ nothing but cats, romance novels, and bob (“battery-operated boyfriend”), but i think that a fair number in nyc manage to get away with it. it was banned by british colonial law in 1829–1830 and survived in the native indian states until the late 1880s, when it was effectively eradicated, although extremely rare cases persisted into the early twentieth century. marc might have more of a chance with the women once his smv begins to rise with age and wisdom. goldload more comments (2 replies)load more comments (1 reply)[–]hayasaka-chan 81 points82 points83 points 1 year ago (4 children)i imagine it would be weird as a kid to have a possible step-parent who is young enough to date you without anyone blinking lol. i didn’t even think about how this post might make them feel – i’m sorry about that. but i believe when we do the exact opposite: invite that part of ourselves in to be welcomed and loved with all we have to offer. ironically, he was lighter of a lighter complexion than i am. you are most certainly not the man i recommend, lol. you’re probably one of the prettiest colored women i have ever met”. it really isn’t that hard, unless you make it hard by complicating things. this skews society, and means that women are forced to search for a guy with some sort of economic security if they want to have a child. so if you’re a girl and you’re not offering that (or laying breadcrumbs to that point), you’ve got to be pretty amazing in the other areas to hold onto any guy who has options. i go outside to get some fresh air and new guy follows me out. the whole high-t represents strong immunity hypothesis is out the window! (maybe once to gain for game sake, but not serveral)3. i looked back and still can’t figure out how my name got involved here, but i would like to point out that my opinion of myself couldn’t be further from “holy” unless i raped, pillaged, and murdered. if it ended up being the right guy, i’d stop being so selfish because i see him becoming a major portion of my life. like most men, i too was at the precipice one time of suicide. i just can’t understand how anyone can take months to even decide if it’s possible at all with their current so, and then possibly years to get there. there were other benefits as well (he was nice, her doting on him made him even more attentive and appreciative, etc. that note, i am not a fan of the term “hooking up”. but we’ll refrain from calling you a howler monkey. “the more mutations we pass on, the more likely that one of them is going to be deleterious. not to mention, a whole new community of people outside school and work!, what i’m saying is, it has been a long time since i’ve liked someone and it would just be fun for me to have again. but i doubt i will find “the right person” at this point in my life…but who knows. as my grades began to reflext my social life, my parent began trying to dictate my social life. i’d enjoy teaching small groups of women how to draw men in by simple things. actually, the “sell by date” for women on a number of male-centric blogs is 25.“the truth is that without these mores, many men would have sex with females who are not yet adults. younger woman, older man thing will always raise brows from both sexes due to jealousy. out of college i was working in nyc and commuting about 70 minutes each way each workday., that post i wrote about that shit test has gone viral on reddit half a dozen times, been featured prominently on pua forums all over the place, and generally made me the least popular woman that nobody ever heard of in america. games, on the other hand, are specifically designed to challenge you, and you get to accomplish “something” within the context of the story.@loklandunlike you, most people won’t end a relationship for just any reason. her though, no greeks (or at least so minuscule as to be ignored) so i tend to walk amongst the unwashed masses. i had genuine regard for him and still think he is a wonderful man. one says: “i hate it when they say they miss you! go straight ahead, from one objective to the next, without a whole lot of contemplation or soul-searching. story and the roosh/female blogger incidents are totally different. this thread has confirmed that i shouldn’t waste his time if i’m not really feeling him. have you ever fallen in love before sleeping with someone? aren’t physically unattractive men generally married to physically unattractive women? agree here, i was really just commenting on the culture. and later, when my wife got back to work and we decided that i will stay with baby three days a week (i got a work with no fixed hours, so i could do it) at one moment i seriously considered wearing pampers diapersheh is only hubby and me and he does helps a lot but when i’m breastfeeding about the only thing i can do is use the computer and baby is always eating he is 14 pounds now at 7 weeks it also helps that i’m hyperactive so i don’t need that much sleep. – “no i’m not talking about “holy”, but just having standards in general. they both only had a few drinks so i know that it’s not like they were “blacked out” and don’t remember. there we were having a good time and he decided to give an impromptu concert! a man approaching 50, i have to point out that a woman rejecting anyone part 40 or so isn’t getting any younger herself., it’s more emotionally stabilizing to be in a bad ltr than in no relationship at all. a girl’s pov: in my mind, older men do not “compete” with younger men. i would err on the side of helping him more than assuming that he’s going to be fine.’m whatever happens when you inflict spiritual experiences on someone who is effectively a materialist., men don’t often want to be criticized for their looks, just as women don’t often want to be criticized for their looks. gold[–]ownage99988 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)alcohol is always my friend. have your comments been read by your daughter and impacted her? those run about in this order: hot, high maintenance, catty, potential gold-digger (fashion pays like shit, nyc is expensive). (strs are a different story, though the women the mature man wants can undoubtedly get onss with men at their physical peak of mid to late 20s. if an ltr is terminated without consideration of the other, so to is marriage. it’s a combination of patience, not hesitating at the appropriate moment, and luck in guessing when the appropriate moment is. she can command virtually unlimited money and resources for personal trainers, nutrition consultants, makeup artists and cosmetic surgery. away from deti’s rant and back to the topic discussed earlier in the thread.”and fwiw, i’m not suggesting getting married quickly is a good idea. the problem for us guys is how to distinguish the charlottes from all the women who’re seeking susan-style ltrswtf, lol. she doesn’t know her own smv until she sees who is willing to commit to her, and she should not commit for life without a very good sense of her own smv. same thing with so many of the “alphas” who are touted by men here. in addition, his income is climbing rapidly, which increases his mmv, or marital market value. will ideally continue to grow and appreciate regardless of female attention or lack thereof.’t help you (which i doubt you need) but it will be less likely to happen to some other kid in 5 years. she’s just glad to see her grand daughter in love (i love that old woman. what helped me most was talking about how wonderful he is a lot leading up to their meet and asking my older sister to talk to them too. do however think that its their responsibility to pull themselves out of it.’m pretty proud of the fact that she had no idea i was terrified and just thought it was my awkwardness at being with a new woman after 12 years of marriage. i think it’s unwise, short sighted and offensive; and will just give her detractors more fodder for unfair criticism. goldload more comments (1 reply)[–]404ninjanotfound 14 points15 points16 points 1 year ago (6 children)dat typo though :). when i was 18 and a man in his 30s hit on me, i couldn’t understand why that old man thought i would be interested in him.) i was an absolutely awful teenager, me and my father spent most of our time trying to kill each other. realize that if he talks to a professional, they will most likely push medication. rendered the wrong page, it is impossible to go to the correct position on that page – so the browser sits at the top of page instead. – “the breaking point was when he picked up a guitar at a party and performed a love ballad he had written for me. meanwhile, he has aged like wine and her like milk. i’m sure none of what i just said makes sense to some of the men here nor do they care, but i’m just trying to state that i’m not some fashion bimbo that wants to marry rich and classify climbing stairs at bergdorfs as hard work. maybe they both let themselves go and they gross each other out. gold[–]blbd 36 points37 points38 points 1 year ago (0 children)this post did a great job walking the fine line between humor and trolling. there’s the whole possibility that i might never have existed if my parents had thought the same thing (though i was born in the ’80s, probably before this stuff was available… mwahaha you can’t get rid of me) but i’ve always sort of had the thought that just because a particular sperm/egg combo never becomes a full grown baby doesn’t mean that soul won’t be born as another sperm/egg combo. lol”sadly, i only sue insurance companies and the federal government. i recall voicing the same worry to rick kay behind the bleachers in 8th grade. that’s because jackie is nurturing and tries to help people with their problems and etc. we are either on the way up or the way down in terms of our smv-mmv; these so-called “sweet spots” are elusive and fleeting, they are unreliable anchor points.”asking whether he’d tell his friends he went to second base means she inquiring about whether he’d brag about getting to touch her breast. he did but he wouldn't let me have it without a date. at any rate, a primary physician can weed out physical issues, come up with a provisional diagnosis and refer the patient on to appropriate help if needed. you see if you like each other over a few weeks, months, whatever. but i do think trying to navigate the smp hoping to turn someone that’s one type into another is a fools errand.!some days i just don’t want to live on this planet anymore….) the true self derive its self-worth from its personal attributes and accomplishments rather than by basking in the reflected glory of similar individuals, cultures or organizations. i’m so used to people seeing the negative here, i got overly sensitive. the first person i ever heard use the phrase in a moder context was an aa university professor who spoke on diversity at a conference i attended., for some reason i thought you were in your late 30s…ok, got it. it is always good to give a man something new to look at. way of thinking is pretty well aligned with mine, i reckon.”there are good reasons for women, either in their early 20s or older, to be wary of guy (strangers) over 30. if you mean average looking, again, i don’t see the link to obesity.“the bible also assumes that a man acquires a wife through intercourse. surely, because it can be used as a measuring stick against the “real world” to see how it compares, for better or worse. i would have done something similar to what others have said., i think my getting crushes easily and then being picky later was a subconscious short-term mating strategy. 🙁incidentally, this is one of the guys she thinks might be gay.

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, who knew unpopularity would be the key to my success! we are about a decade apart when it comes to things like tv shows and music, but the funny part is we took almost the exact same “taste discovery” only about a decade apart. but, it’s the one i have to work with, so adjusting is where i’m at.@emily– have you seen the actress that plays cersei with her natural hair? current;y have 234 emails which i’m really not interested in reading. when i was in my 20s i looked at other 20-somethings. wanted the wafer thin model types he was used to from manhattan. i hope some day i have a daughter like her. a hug and a pat on the back wouldn’t do much…sex might (got to be honest here) with the right person (not just the physical act, but the emotionally bonded version)…but appeals to logic (me stem, me engineer) yeah.: mark manson’s “soul mate”that lady once wrote a blog post about how she never uses any birth control. so at what point do women suddenly become turned off to this notion of an age gap? are some parts of the web that exist which have some very unsavory characters. gold[–]hatstacker 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)when i was 17, i had a fling with a 32 year old woman. at this point i’m basically just doing my best to give my kids a good shot at success, and that’s it. being said, what /is/ “more than enough” now despite overwhelming inherited wealth or being good looking and famous (which is, quite literally, . gold[–]decadentlydelicious 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)there was 10 yrs between my grandparents, they met when my newly 'kicked out of home for being unwed with a baby' grandmother, answered an ad to clean my 'just had his wife committed with mental issues and is now a single father with 2 kids' grandfathers house. was able to accidentally emotionally meltdown myself out of a relationship after my mother died. nothing too slutty (as he said, under 3 a year), but given her attitudes and what she wants (someone to have fun with, excitement), she’s not going to attract a guy who’s going to be invested, and any other guy will just bang her when he feels like it.@ramblei am seeing a very good guy from my church right now, so: none! you’re probably one of the prettiest colored women i have ever met”. i grew up in la, went to college in missouri, moved back to la, went to grad school in the east., the beta provider gambit ascribes nefarious motives to the female. but leaving aside the manosphere hyperbole, the underlying reality is the same., the more you see yourself as a loving parent would: with infinite patience and unquenchable love and acceptance. the last time we shared crazy stories desiderius lost his mind and has not been since since. the judgment goes both ways here, and you can see that in iggles’ comment (sorry to put you on the spot iggles!., his innate understanding of such things allowed him to attend grad school at mit). my inner being is far too sensitive to be allowed exposure to what the real world has to offer. it reminds me of that horrible incident between roosh and that female dc blogger – he wound up posting details about their sex life, ugh. mum is twenty years older than me so generationally it isn't a problem (she used to steal my cds :0) but there's still things she doesn't "get" with my interests, my own approach to parenting. women are projecting how they men to demonstrate that they don’t spend time with just anyone. i’ve never had a situation where a friend said “no” when i said i had to grab a girl’s number quickly as we were leaving.”*glares*hey, you only have a couple years to go. college couple in a relationship knows that there are mighty obstacles to their remaining together forever.”well, the media attention is on the top guys, not the dorks who couldn’t make sense.“why you should date an older guy”for a minute, i thought i had accidently logged onto the askmen forum. goldload more comments (1 reply)load more comments (1 reply)[–]68686987698 92 points93 points94 points 1 year ago* (4 children)that's an odd age for him to have a problem at. a woman or man doesn’t want to gross out their spouse, they just have to maintain their health. (it’s not known when the rule came into being, but it is referenced in the 1953 movie the moon is blue. mean, i know 99% of the posts are basically repeat posts from guys too horny to keep it to themselves…but i wonder what it is about these women who could transfix a guy enough to actually spur him to write a longing post about her, wanting to know her, but knowing full well she would probably never even see it.“i’d like to think that men eventually grow out of their desire to date the stupid bleached blonde with the fake boobs and high pitched giggle., jackie, they probably wouldn’t postpone the marriage date at all. he regarded me as an intelligent person, a valued member of a team and as a likeable person as well. i doubt i need to tell you that, as most women are repelled by that kind of eagerness. then she said all she could think about was the eighth grade term “sloppy seconds” and if i was going to tell my friends we went to second base. we had more than small talk; there was a genuine friendship, admitation and regard.. i joked a lot with my friends that my life was like a romantic comedy. young women are somewhat resistant to this idea, i have found. to film hundreds of video clips that will be used for artistry training across the country and possibly around the world. amazes me sometimes how resilient we adult children of troubled individuals can be. 😉 i just thought it would be funny to one-up sassy’s suitor in terms of archaic language. current;y have 234 emails which i’m really not interested in reading. might say something like “i’m tired of seeing only female judges, das, law officers and special agents on tv while the men are all klowns, klones and sidekicks. i do make it a point to let dh know i feel that for him.“if nyc is an online dating haven, what’s the standard website used there?, were they getting the social life that you described as typical and common or were they getting something fairly different? would not break up with my girlfriend for gaining 10 pounds. it can mean almost anything and is not that helpful on a site like this where we really try to get at the heart of things. and it definitely works but i have trouble keeping the self-confidence needed to maintain it and also being open enough to engage with men when they positively respond. – “however, the point isn’t to have an “emotional control valve”.@intjwell, in my story, the dad’s blog is under his nom de ‘net– not even his family has any inkling that thousands of would-be puas are hanging on his every word. i see that while i was away you got a lot of great feedback already from guys.”i’m not quite sure what to say about this one. and none of them giggled, other than my ex-wife when she was drunk. pvw and i got married, we did something very similar–not the pregnancy bit, but we wanted to get married but without a long engagement and we didn’t believe in living together, so we had a civil service in the context of a very nice intimate luncheon at one of fancy downtown hotels, followed later that year with a bigger bash. i have not even heard anyone use that term in decades. i let her stay until she got on her feet and had somewhere to go. it’s a mixed bag- my female friends tell me i’m somewhat typical, but it’s lost me girlfriends in the past.@ted dand for the record, i don’t “enjoy other people’s company” in general.@ramble“uh, jackie, tons of guys go whiteknighting thinking that this is the path to success and then become crestfallen when they see the girl with the guy in that shitty band. · 1761 comments what's a mildly convenient super power you wish you had? meeting women at bars is easy for me (although not so for a lot of men). women, as an evolutionary rule, did not mate with older men with status and resources, and stuck to hard and fast age limits as women have described in this thread, then the drive of men to secure such resources beyond the minimum amount to attain a wife in their physical attractiveness bracket would have been bred out long ago. also takes confidence—my boyfriend extended three invitations before i finally agreed to get coffee with him. seriously, show me an example of this in tv or movies from the last 25 years where a man demands from his gf/wife that she lose weight and he is not shown to be an ass., it’s one thing to employ the principle of least interest as a strategy in interpersonal contact, but to state what charlotte stated here seems to be something wholly different. it just makes me laugh how these status markers work.) the true self, even if it converts others and makes them followers, ultimately aims to help them become their own gurus in time, and is secure enough to even encourages them to someday surpass the master. but i remember hearing about a colossal diamond collection and 10s of millions of dollars in alimony. find the parts of yourself that make you most attractive to them at the stage they’re at, and play those up. and why are we conflating promscuity (“n”) and dating skills?@intjfirst, i think erica awakening is perhaps not guilty by reason of insanity, but during this period of months of building intimacy, she knew the guy had a gf. i’m always crawling all over my husband when we sleep. of 1248: “i want to use the threat pregnancy to control you completely. or a 24-year-old girl from new jersey who happens to blog about her relationship. i am confident that i know why girls shit test. we tend to hold hands while driving long distances, touch each other on the arm, back, shoulder, etc in normal social settings often, and i make it a point to whack her ass on my way past from time to time at home) she definately likes the sex to be more aggressive, in some cases very much so. you stay with your girlfriend, and marry her, hoping such a thing never happens again? there is no magic formula – the best strategy is one that expands your options as much as possible. recall that he was distinctly displeased with the female selection on the east coast because he complained about it.@susan“i don’t know why it’s surprising or objectionable that people’s tastes would mature as they aged. on top of that, her language and concerns (sloppy seconds, thinking he would brag about going to second base) would suggest that she is, at best, emotionally stunted in this area and, at worst, full of real hang ups. and no relationship is ever going to last if the woman does not have this experience.“and for better or worse, you and i are pretty like minded”oh yes, i think so.“cooper’s difficulties have been a direct result of flying loose and free with intimacy, trying to make a girl his gf after one night of hooking up.% claiming it is the right age to tie the knot. i recall a night during the jurassic era when a 20-something yo j went dancing with her girl friends at a disco. but i believe when we do the exact opposite: invite that part of ourselves in to be welcomed and loved with all we have to offer.’d settle for them even being shown on television in the first place and not be disabled, criminal, evil, abusive etc. if you’re a girl and you’re not offering that (or laying breadcrumbs to that point), you’ve got to be pretty amazing in the other areas to hold onto any guy who has options. i studied abroad with a program called school for international training when i was in college.”did something induce the mania, or had you had them before and just not know they were manic? had the same problem in college, minus the easy work (stupid calculus). never did the “date for fun” thing, and i told my husband that early on, which was one of the reasons i piqued his interest. [imagine how much more interesting it would have been if he had said 20]. gold[–]mox_au 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (2 children)who does one 'expand' a baby exactly? does any man really like to be called your sexy silver fox? dunham i find a little less appealing, but that’s probably due to the fact that i’ve seen her naked more often than i would have liked…. unless you are implying that making women suffer through those unplanned pregnancies would help. my sons looked up to his son who was olsder than they are. it’s downright steamy, and should prove controversial, which means fun! was remiss in failing to convey, susan, my congratulations on such a bold post. girls need some of that if they want a ltr and love. all rights reserveduse of this site constitutes acceptance of our user agreement (effective 1/2/2014) and privacy policy (effective 1/2/2014). and i knew damn well that even that would become news. i could go younger than that, five years seems fine but ten seems like a stretch. said in court that part of the reason was that she was recovering from cancer and didn't want to deal with it. just move together based on whoever finds their job first, or has the best likelihood for success. the tables may turn at 30 in terms of male/female smv trajectory *potential*, but a man still has to run the table to reap the benefit. i say this as a short, ugly, middle-aged, miserly and socially awkward individual who no woman of even average attractiveness has ever thought of as anything other than absolutely cringe-worthy, not some adonis wannabe who doesn’t understand how the other half lives on the other side of the smv tracks.@marcactually, i cant even consider settling down just yet, as i cant date women young enough right now to satisfy the age gap that i am looking for., i will give her a kiss and re-adjust her clothes so that they are firmly on her and then maybe take her outside to sit on a bench near the park.“they want women who are pleasant, loyal and who want to fuck them silly on a regular basis. gold[–]manypuppies 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)aww thank you. (i left at 18, told them to fuck off and never speak to me again etc. with a little help from the evil queen of course. by the time a man that invests in himself truly comes into his own, he’ll be far separated from the hottest women he knew back in hs/college, while those that were either naturally endowed or chased flashy but ultimately superficial pursuits at the expense of long-term return got the pick of the litter. you have to try different people on until you find one that is a great match. literally the day before her options were set to vest, he moved all her stuff out of his townhouse and locked her out. if he is tired of the usual carousel (and he wants something more than the typical women he has been with), will he realize he needs to recalibrate and change his dating strategy to work with this new type of woman? i was in graduate school, we would meet up once in a while to catch up. the magazines there (shape, etc) all are about getting skinny. i couldn’t explain it at the time, and i still don’t really understand why it did. gold[–]policesiren7 23 points24 points25 points 1 year ago (4 children)so it comes out and we hand it a stick of dynamite.. you're going to hear stories about "the old days" and wonder why we aren't as fun anymore. i’m thoroughly sick of it (for different reasons than you, but sick nonetheless), and know plenty of other guys who are too. i have seen susan advocate for all kinds of guys, many of whom are nowhere near “conventional” hotness. three weeks later her name is on the whiteboard in the basement and he pretends he doesn’t know her. goldload more comments (3 replies)[–]pamelahoward 137 points138 points139 points 1 year ago (11 children)a classic "not me but":My mother was 31 when she met my dad at 21. this is probably the best evidence i’ve seen for the argument that restricteds should stick with restricteds, and likewise for unrestricteds. that’s not to say that i don’t act my age (trust me, my friends have the snapchats to prove it), but i like that my relationship allows me to grow into the person i want to be. other words: are you part of the problem or part of the solution? loved how sam fell in love with pregnant gilly, one of the many daughter wives of the old man craster north of the wall and gave her that thimble from his mother (or whatever it was).., successful workaholics with low mating savvy/social dynamics game and average looks) when they decided to hang up their gunbelts and make certain concessions.@j:“the bible also assumes that a man acquires a wife through intercourse. where i’m standing, one ons is the same as 10, it is only a matter of actual n that changes. (my mom did love me however just gonna make that clear. lot of the resentment of the fabulous carousel seems to stem either from religious considerations…. to me, it seems like the best route would be looking for men who are very ambitious and goal-oriented, being with him, and then developing together through age and experience. she doesn’t want to feel committed or tied down – no pressure on her. has the term “sloppy seconds” never been bandied about at hus?, the other guy i knew in the peace corp went to south/latin america and loved it. it seems i was just completely unaware that there were different “types” of women in this regard.” norms vary by culture, but the french came up with the rule that a man should divide his age in half and add seven to get the youngest appropriate age he might date. however, women (and polite society) do not allow for the converse. she actually began to avoid venues that were at all upscale, but she said that even sports bars had middle aged men hitting on really young women. better for a moment, we need not judge who is “better., i think i used the term “sloppy thirtieths” as a joke recently, but it wouldn’t pop into my head when kissing someone on the fourth date. nyc is its own smp entity, imho, and the rules of engagement there are unique.) the true self doesn’t mind sharing its creative tools with others and giving them the means to improve themselves in similar ways. even one person commented on this blog that women go from “made to mom to crone. i’ve always been the type to find emotional communication kind of exhausting and awkward, so i’ve never assumed anyone else likes it either. are, i am sure, well aware that tons of women between 30-40 find love and happiness, and susan does not say otherwise.’s easy to forget about this kind of thing when you are young and seemingly invincible. i’m happy for you that you’re dating someone.@pvw: and the thing is, i know women who are just like the type zach is dating, living in big cities like nyc, where they really don’t belong–high smv value women who are restricted. it’s very difficult for kids – many try to have a ldr, but that’s very stressful and guys tend to balk because then it’s the commitment with hardly any sex. fact that he is still alive tends to mean he sees a future that gets brighter. tywin, played by the reptilian charles dance, is physically repulsive, though he obviously dominates all the men. i said that i believe wrt sociosexuality, i fall somewhere in the middle of the spectrum. lot of the stuff i did to accept the “unacceptable” parts of myself would probably seem super-lame to you. guess is that the rule of “1/2 age + 7″ is simply politically incorrect (i. for instance, i’ve seen a lot of snarky comments from men about hillary clinton’s looks, and she’s not even unattractive. but his unrestricted background does not make him very patient in this regard, it seems to me. if she isn’t gaining traction dating those men, it is also gets received by early-twenty girls (whom don’t have any problems receiving attention for older men) that they need not even concern themselves with men their age. as a result, my dad was nearly 40 when i was born, and guess who has a rare genetic condition, with a 50% chance of passing it on to each kid she has?: “i do not believe that most males would welcome this approach. my bf and i are definitely of the clingy variety, and we sort of cancel each other out, meaning both of us knows the other is clingy, so we’re not constantly seeking validation/assurance via clingy-ness. i mean obviously there is the dating game before you get to this point, but i think i can feel out a “cozy” person right away., more power to you, i’m not questioning how people find their bliss. not the sharpest tool in the shed, intellectually, but devout and devoted to appearance with an admirable work-ethic. i'm a professional dog walker/pet sitter and i'd very much enjoy watching your household. there is a sizable number of men who advocate anything from “deference” to women giving up their careers and autonomy to women giving the vote and drivers’ licenses. and how exciting, to think i could have been there at that moment, witnessing the interaction but not realizing its significance! this would explain why, back when their was assortative mating and most didn’t have much sex outside of wedlock, women appeared to have a sexual peak after 30.”saturday 🙂 with my mil 🙁“you know that your history is entwined with these feelings.’m just getting a little tired of being painted to look like a woman hater of some sort.. her taking charge of things sexually) and tamed the wild stallion! however, they also had to face the prejudices against 30 y/o and they have to be aware that such prejudices exist, and that they may have no chance to show males who judge them prematurely, that they were wrong.’d love to get back to latin america, to be honest, even if just for a visit, and i’d like to bring my bf with me. people are foremost temporary vessels within which a divine soul has been implanted. gold[–]mdragon13 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)my family is all about this, oddly enough. in the event that you stumble across someone you are extremely attracted to, you shut that down. they have spent a minimum of 3-6 hours in each other’s company getting to know each other. she referred to — and recoiled from — perelman’s physical attributes, not his character defects.) besides those responsibilities, i also assist with any other marketing needs, plan national meetings and conferences for artists, coordinate and do makeup for photoshoots for our editorial features, along with placing any wholesale orders our national sales team may need. they’ve already lost one man and don’t want to nursemaid another. heck, i think i’ve made out with 6 guys in my life and slept with 1. an ophthomologist, he figured she was about to describe some sexy guatamalan. you might have a more rewarding discussion with people who are interested in and enjoy discussion the same topics as you. the labels on the y axis and the circles make it look like the chart is based off real data, but it’s just based on his hunch. when i came back, a mexican restaurant called “gringo’s” had opened in my town, and a friend said he refused to eat at a place with a derogatory term for white people in the name. seeing hubby as a capable loving involved father makes him more sexy to my eyes and it brings another level of his personality that i never saw before. there we were having a good time and he decided to give an impromptu concert! in fact, i know widows in that position who refuse the attentions of frailer men. · 174 comments [serious] male rape victims of reddit,what is something about being a male victim that not a lot of people know about?“again, if the intent is “pure”, nothing wrong can come out of it. it makes sense that we both breed another high needs baby. seriously, you could make a whole blog out of that. again, this goes back to my point about women putting more priority on marriage and family before they start a career. – “the claims about women wanting hypermasculine men during ovulation are bogus. but, does my model of an ideal world have value? in fact my first blonde girl at all (other than a single date) is my current wife.’t “i expect to date at least two or three… before i get married…things a cad would say after a p&d”cooper, that’s nuts. and the prevailing belief is that almost zero men have options. she’s been riding the alpha cock carousel, has racked up a high number of sexual partners, but now is going to find some sap who will pay her bills and not ask too many questions, and marry him pronto., sounds like something a victorian hack would do right after treating a woman’s “hysteria” with a vibrator. if i’m in a “boyfriend/girlfriend for all the world to see” relationship, i’ve already decided marriage is a distinct possibility, and to be frank if i’ve had the exclusivity discussion, the only thing left to make it the real deal is a ring and a certificate. i think they probably either made +/- as much as their husbands from their careers or had significant family money behind them, so the women didn’t seem to be engaging in resource extraction. my husband noted that unlike other girls in the video game, i was not very flirty nor seeking of sexual attention. likewise, when i was single in my ‘30s, i don’t recall fresh out of college women ever going gaga for me when i was fresh out of law school and gainfully employed. as in, a mutually beneficial exchange of conversation, good humor and an interesting experience? they broke up a few years later; this affected how she viewed things.”i think you have this right, just from my personal experience & observation. the biggest issue we run in to is that because of my youth, its hard to know if what i want is truly what ill always want.@jp“i think i have the opposite effect on people when i invite out my inner attorney.”what’s that emotion you feel when you read something and realize that you didn’t actually need to read it for your life to feel complete? 30 more »4353 · 4541 comments what do you find attractive today that you didn't 10 years ago? most people don’t get that lucky, and they wind up dating a few people, which is also ok. so, now i find that i cannot truly “be myself” even with my wife, from my perspective at least, because i’ve learned that doing so would destroy our relationship. – oh we’ll still vacation, but honestly i’m thinking something a bit more “long term” than two weeks in europe. it was a bit wierd at first because i'm super shy and awkward and had never been in a relationship before, but we've been together for over a year now and he's the best thing that's ever happened to me and i couldn't be happier. if i walk away from a girl, it means i have her number and i’m then going to look for other women. now, maybe they were just gold diggers, though some things are hard to fake. what i am interested in is, if we are going to see people get dumped for all sorts of reasons (he is controlling, she is a drama queen, etc., i don’t like it when a man tells me that he misses me either. in fact most of them won’t look even as good as perelman does. did you actually notice that he might have been crushing on you ever so slightly before he actually burst open with his declaration of undying and eternal j love? it also talked about the important of women being able to show devotion in a relationship. once again, the guys she is likely to meet will either players who expect fast pinv or else niceguys who are at risk of being led on. have been quite a few guys like that who had hell raising teens and 20s and then keep with, or settle down with a woman who can help keep them balanced. he gets along great with my dad (who is awesome to begin with) since he moved in with us after his stroke. it’s probably a far better use of time than, say, watching tv. however, with my friends i let some of it out, and what is so stressing about finding the red pill is: previously i dumped all of this on my mate. it works out with my boyfriend (who’s a year older) but i would look like a fool in a date with a 30yr old. they go on real dates, the men don’t drink to excess, they’re considerate lovers, etc.“do remember that ted d holds himself to much higher standards than he holds others. and can it live up to the claim that it was the first european novel? guys who are equating marriage to ltr, or ending and ltr to ending a marriage, are way off base. i'm in my early 20's myself and i sure as hell wouldn't mind dating someone older. from there a few months single, a few 1st dates that didn’t work out, and then three dates and 2 weeks in? they also said that pre-marital sex between two single people is never specifically addressed in the bible, so its ok.: “every man should be aware, though, that if he does use his economic leverage to get a wife, that she is secretly lusting after the gardener, or her gym instructor, not him”playne jain again. maybe that will change after i turn 30, but i’m not really predicting a huge jump. not to say that these women don’t want to get married, it just hasn’t even crossed their mind seriously at that time point. again, this goes back to my point about women putting more priority on marriage and family before they start a career. we would see each other at the bar or at birthday parties and i had a suspicion that she was interested when i would catch her looking at me longer than would be considered normal. even in high school my ltr lasted over a year. as a woman becomes more confident in her own career and finances, she seeks a partner who matches that, which often is not a 25-year-old guy. the big problem is that she didn’t even attempt to keep herself up. perhaps it is as simple as being a beta female who finally got old enough to elicit and welcome attention from beta males. also had a high school classmate who did kill himself freshman year of college. i already know the smp sucks, i don’t see any point in keening and wailing over it. mean that the two terms are less than a milimeter apart yet one signifies that you are confederate plantation-owning civil war general and the other means you are chair of the department of peace and conflict studies at mills college.. finally, while you may find a bit of gray in the sideburns sexy, keep in mind that a man’s age will affect his parenting style. said it with so much conviction it was like an evil witch had cast a spell on me. i’m 21, but i graduated from school early and work in a field that i love and i am able to live a lifestyle very different than that of most people my age. this post is specifically written for women in their 20s. i bet his wives won’t put out for him. part of the reason is because of my inexperience and the other part is just about being turned off. i’d write a program to automatically send messages to my so telling her i miss her, i love her, etc.“i don’t know if bringing up briffault’s law is verboten here or not, but in both cases, the woman is benefitting, just in different ways.”there’s literally no help required to “pit the aging 28-33 year old women against the younger, more aggressive, 23-27 year old women” by that time..First of all, there is nothing less rational and pragmatic than feelings. gold[–]grizz101012 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)not me, but when my grandmother re-married after my grandfather the guy she married was 12 years younger than her. get enough invisible comments and you start going to too early a page. is a great scene from the sopranos where meadow is about to sleep with jackie aprile, jr.’re fighting a massive bureaucracy, that really doesn’t care one way or the other, using stacks of paper a few inches thick that no one actually reads.” but “i miss you” implies some sort of need that is not being met. go on lots of dates (hey, free dinner), and you’ll find a guy here or there for short periods of time who will do that to you. don’t understand the whole waiting until a man is financially stable before entering relationships. my job was to suppress as much emotions as i could, her job was to give me a place to let it all out when suppression became too much. either she isn’t confident in her body, or her body was naturally reacting in a frightened/reserved manner in front of zach. is my recollection as well, though i’ve always wondered what crock of bullshit he was able to deliver that convinced her that she was something more than just another lay to him. when i finally wake up, i have to take apart my boys old bunk bed and get his new full size frame setup. so and i are in our mid 30s and we're sick of hearing it.—-those men will have to get on a fitness regimen and put some effort into looking their best before women will become attracted to them anyway. tyrion lannister is the most “alpha” guy on the show!@ susan walshsounds like the guy i mentioned yesterday, who told me about the constellations and then kissed me.@ susani realize that this post marginalizes the coopers and the kendras. in the end, my life was a lot easier than hers, even though i had the more painful adolescence. and yes, i truly do feel that i miss her that often. i’m often asked how we met—and not in a giddy kind of way (it’s more like concern).@vd: “(raises hand) some of us do value this little thing called “western civilization”. it’s like listening to the girls talk about buying 150 dollar monolo (spelling?!Sue: “first of all, an ltr is not a “mini-marriage. actually, i cant even consider settling down just yet, as i cant date women young enough right now to satisfy the age gap that i am looking for. i’m not sure of the trigger, never had an episode before.: i was kidding about the whole thing – just making a joke about sassy’s writing style.@ramble i guess my question is, outside of hus, is anyone actually incorporating this rule of thumb into their advice? the case of some the real fringe guys, i can’t imagine that they might be source of good ideas. least the insurance companies care a little about winning or losing. ideally most women like a guy that is slightly older. guys want the young thing, and women wish they were the young thing again. 😉the labels seem so nebulous; the crazy-making comes from being told that we women are helpless to resist the so-called alpha. when i was 18, i did not feel mature enough to be dating a man in his upper 20s or 30s. those posts i read were just paragraphs upon paragraphs of verbal diarrhea spouting the same nonsense about mark postmasculine deserving his comeuppance.@emilyi think cersei is beautiful but i think the brunette nurse that rob stark marries is beautiful too, in a good-girl kind of way, and khaleesi is hot, and can’t remember any of them but probably a couple of the whores were too. however, i personally find it ridiculous to be held to account for what the msm tolerates or publicizes. also, way way way way more open to debate and intepretation! – they sound like the women your students hope to become! and when he met an anorexic friend of hers at a holiday party, he went bananas. “hang out on weekends” to me reads as “straight up booty call” as does “not serious”. it is, that’s what i’m feeling at the moment., most people of both sexes would prefer to be both (marriage material and hot fuck material), but if they had to choose one, that’s how it would break down, imo. but calling such men fat and ugly, and how his wives wouldn’t put out for him and that’s why he keeps getting divorced, probably isn’t going to help attract many women to men like this. when i actually managed to get her to take a piece of clothing off , after we were done making out (which is all it was), she used her arms to cover herself up as we were watching tv.“actually, we’re explaining the reasons behind her emotional “stunted-ness”. in occasional paranoid brainstorms, i sometimes wonder if being divorced is preferential to being single at a certain point. forgive me, but i think that any guy that is 25 and under that is using that website is probably a little creepy.(restricted/unrestricted is too binary, and forces us to only think about the extremes. i recall you once posed a map that showed more available guys were on the west coast…i think that la is a very unforgiving place re looks, or at least it used to be. i eventually learned to answer the question “are you looking for marriage? you are co-authoring a paper, have musical skillz (i still think you should learn the violin version of smooth criminal– it’s not hard! ”well, yes, but also consider that the media is constantly touting that fewer men are even going to college, making college educated men with good jobs more of a rarity. i used to look like a hollywood rom-com villain, complete with the shades, rich daddy, and porsche. if a game-aware decent to high earning college educated professional is no longer good enough to secure an attractive woman than this society is well and truly lost. some of the guys might act like assholes from time to time, but almost all of the girls are really nice. that’s where i was when i first met my boyfriend. however, you aren’t entitled to either one, no woman owes you either one. there was a fairly clear hierarchy on campus, and attractiveness and social status (meaning mostly, but not entirely, the kid’s backgroud) correllated fairly highly.” “it’s my mom’s,” replied j, amusing all her friends. if a 24 yo man pairs up with a 19 yo woman, it’s all good to me, but an 80 yo man with a 47 yo woman?@ escoffierfunny how “colored” marks you as kkk but “person of color” means you are more enlightened than buddha. because she was a good friend you knew some details about her sex life, like that they used condoms as their protection. california privacy rightsthe material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of condé nast. having an existential crisis or being sad and upset are not the same as clinical depression. top of that, her language and concerns (sloppy seconds, thinking he would brag about going to second base) would suggest that she is, at best, emotionally stunted in this area and, at worst, full of real hang ups. i took david buss’s class and he even said women look for ambition and income potential in men and invest in him., j had the wherewithal and feminine wiles to dodge that bullet. afterwards we are all going to eat, and drink some beer. i spent time with tons of girl, usually getting walked over. i probably see about two guys this ugly per day, and dozens or hundreds of men who look nothing like this. plunge in anyway on the small chance that you might find the one seems like it’s not worth the risk to you or the collateral damage to others.”i swear i was going to say the same thing, but felt that the moment had passed.:i’m not here to gain points with the manosphere. i’m not going to waste their time when who knows, the girl of their dreams could be standing right behind me. i almost feel like you avoid that kind of stuff. really didn’t mean to offend you, and wish you the best. “her point was that you were always going to run into people who you thought would make a better match than your husband and that it was just a feature of life. a thought, susanre: fox news, war on menever since one of the guys linked to it a few days ago, it has remained on an open tab. i thought he was a cool dude, but i didn’t feel any chemistry with him.“morality being a human social concept that is quite fluid across cultures and societies”not really. in particular, he talked about the differences in meaning between the differing translations of a word that could be either “and” or “therefore. distinctly remember the first time i ever shit-tested a guy.@robbera certain californian has taken this single dad off the market…:) here’s hoping it keeps that way. if a man is looking specifically to raise children, especially in this hellacious legal client insofar as men are concerned, he’s going to have to quite rigorously suss out his so’s history, compatibility, and character, and if you’re starting with a woman that is already 25, by the time they’re ready to have that kid they’re already cutting it awfully close to the fertility decline. clingy is so far from my nature, i couldn’t be that way if i tried. the chickens get let out in the morning and fed, water and eggs are picked., if you are saying that some men are delusional, then you will get no argument from me. there’s nothing wrong with judgement, as long as it is done according to proper standards (now that is a debate to be had)”exactly. a side note, 30 y/o guys who have their shit together and who are not dbags and who are as charming as you claim this guy was don’t need guys to wing for each other that hard. 23-24, i’m 2-3 years older than you depending on the time of year. probably the same deal with variation, considering how large the program was.., a parallel dating strategy when you consider multiple candidates at once, rather than one at a time. all the more reason for the girl in her 20s to go for a guy in his 20s. double the pain if its because i met someone else.@passer bybut those women who do like the older guys with authority seem to really really like them. my sexual market value at 40 – still good-looking, quite athletic and both emotionally and financially stable – allowed me to ‘next’ women much as 20-something hotties ‘next’ men.”sometimes these relationships really are solid meaningful relationships for both people. i just wish someone, anyone, had told me what they really thought instead of me needing to "find out for myself". granted, it has a little more wiggle room than, say, “blue”, in that it is one of either two or six categories used to describe hundreds of million of men. think this is very true once we remove ourselves from the sphere of the ultra-rich. don't try and get us to do acid again just because you want to see if we can recreate the time we went to bonnaroo 10 years ago. for example, going to some course (not dance course, but soemthing which could have chances of having also male attendants) to both learn something new (not necessarily useful) and finding new friends., bact ot, if i were on my own at this age, i don’t think i would date down in age all that much. on the one internet forum i frequented, i was quote more than friggin gandhi. is a great scene from the sopranos where meadow is about to sleep with jackie aprile, jr. she is declaring where her mind is as a general matter, not making a tactical move in a dating game with a specific man. henry-type short story about a man who writes a pua blog on the science of seduction. gold[–]paperrockchamp 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago (0 children)thugs or things?@esco“i said much the same thing at dalrock’s–that players need to be shamed along with sluts–and the religious party came after me as if i were the anti-christ. 🙁 )besides the fact that he is in maximum security for life. so, if you lean left you are likely to focus more of your liberal attention on things like the democratic party or, say, the daily kos or the daily show for that matter. i look at 40 year olds and think “dang, i hope my future husband maintains himself like that” not “is he single? remember that ted d holds himself to much higher standards than he holds others.“a lot of these perceived players are simply playing the numbers game, hoping to find that special someone as quickly as possible so that they don’t have to endlessly date anymore. problem with old guys is old sperm, and erections that don’t impress like they did at his age of 22. "older" doesn't necessarily mean we're going to stop watching cartoons or laughing at fart jokes. recall that he was distinctly displeased with the female selection on the east coast because he complained about it.@tedd:“truth is, that isn’t very fair on whatever poor woman is with me at the moment, which is why i’m working on it. i’m sure there are diamonds in the rough, especially if you are not in a place like nyc where it is harder to meet new people. i hear a lot of women say what they want or deserve (! not that i was dumb enough to pursue of any of this (other than perhaps a return eye fucking ;)). am also a fan of seeing shorter guys, in pop culture, having a more difficult time with taller girls because that is something we see in real life. music = eminem, led zeppelin, marilyn manson, frank sinatra for both of us.@madisonkci’ve probably just outed myself as a huge, longterm hus lurkeryay, so glad you de-lurked! this is a blog for young women, ostensibly you are here for your daughter. not so much because they were unattractive but because i figured there was 0% chance of success. i don’t find it useful to wring my hands, and i certainly don’t find it productive to complain about the nature of female sexuality.) dumped me after i didn’t put out by date 3. he still pops up in my nightmares from time to time., unless calibrated against the woman’s menstrual cycles, that doesn’t mean anything. but i believe when we do the exact opposite: invite that part of ourselves in to be welcomed and loved with all we have to offer. the problem for us guys is how to distinguish the charlottes from all the women who’re seeking susan-style ltrs. the attractive older guys tend to compete well when it comes to the gorgeous ones because they have more money and status.

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were some not very attractive people in the greek scene. and, surely, you must understand that it’s weird that she thinks he would brag to his friends (who she barely knows) about taking her top off. black hair, blue eyes, pale skin, sweet, nurturing, dumb as a rock…couldn’t handle the last part. they *may* get latitude on the former, but not without significant gain in the latter. being said, i married a girl two years younger when i was at what susan considers to be the most attractive male age and i don’t have any reason to regret it. it’s common with young women (a big reason they go after so many dbags is for the “excitement”). what’s the difference between what you’ve been reading and the beta provider bait and switch gambit? if following a script when physical intimacy happens before emotional intimacy isn’t yielding the results you seek, then try another way! if a modern ltr can end “for any reason”, then a woman gaining 10 pounds counts., the concept that marriage was a shot in the dark. i “only” moved across the country to be with my husband. no matter what he’s telling himself on his setting page, a 30 year-old man spends as much time messaging 18 and 19 year-olds as he does women his own age. i cant speak for other men, but women my age dont give that feeling inside.@olive:“just throwing it out there: gamers come in all shapes and sizes. ”yeah, but there was a comment thread (or two) a while back here where one or more the indian broads were joking about that, iirc. about a sure-fire way to becoming a carousel rider; live with a man for a few years, be taken care of, get a taste for it, then when you break up, you’re looking for another one to get the same. yet, despite the fact that the ancient hebrews succeeded in a scenario that most guys can only fantasize about while playing wow, there is so much anti-semitism in the ‘sphere. feel like i shouldn’t even be thinking about this still, since it was 3 weeks ago, but because the rest of guys i meet are such cads, these two seemed like winners. i used to think that the fact that i said “i do” should be indicate enough of my admiration. · 505 comments girls of reddit, what do guys think isn't attractive but actually is? ”perhaps, but this was in response to you commenting on how many girls mature from liking “bad boys” to responsible, just like men mature from wanting to bang the dumb bleached blond bimbo to something else. the crap people do to other people for worthless reasons defies optimism. it could just be lack of opportunity…why not give him a nudge in a healthier direction?, ironically, i think it’s you who misread jp’s post. well, the nice guy that she was dating, who was older, simply said that she could stay with him and not work if her job was getting to her.“seriously, while the manosphere can complain about the smp today in comparison to the monogamy of recent history, they should remember that for much of ancient history omegas and deltas would have much bigger problems than getting laid., mere variation of custom does not prove nor even strongly suggest that all morality is human convention. i think it takes pretty heavy parenting to motivate through that, and a natural degree of intellectual competitiveness on the boy’s part. sure, you will got some comments here that are full of hate and bitterness, but susan does a pretty good job at keeping the wolves at bay, especially when it involves a new commenter. susan just said, “you can’t force someone to love you, and you can’t force someone to stay with you. yes, there are guys who want to date you simply because you're young, fresh meat, but that doesn't mean all older men are just looking for a good time or notch on their belt.@susan:in terms of their dating value as a person or even their sexual attractiveness, 25 is hardly expired. but, if i showed that part of me to the world, the world would chew me up and spit me out a total wreck of a man.@susan“it’s much more useful to take stock of a guy’s reputation (if you can) than to judge him based on his age, height, address, car, etc., the cultural narrative of marrying someone rich and living hea is *very* strong in our culture. years between us, so close enough to answer (he's older). participants also indicated that they want a woman who is able to take care of herself, which is somewhat of a reversal from the macho old world attitudes of just a generation or two ago. a 50 yo in good shape can not compete with a 28 yo male in his prime based on physical smv. his emotional feelings start informing other parts of his brain. gold[–]learning_curves 37 points38 points39 points 1 year ago (4 children)same here. what’s the difference between what you’ve been reading and the beta provider bait and switch gambit? the butterfly stage is imo the worst part of a relationship. butterflies to me is that period of time in a new relationship where you are obsessed with the other. we met in college and honestly it wasn't as much of an issue for us as it was for others. because she wants a man who will love her fully or whatever.@olivethat must be tough knowing those odds for future kids. wanting a girlfriend, and looking to get married, are two entirely different categories.(now, ser jorah, that’s pretty much the definition of being friend-zoned! for the record, i don’t “enjoy other people’s company” in general.) i also recall going to birthday parties with screenings of films that wouldn’t be released for months to come.@j:“you seem to implying that he was taken advantage of. if a 24 yo man pairs up with a 19 yo woman, it’s all good to me, but an 80 yo man with a 47 yo woman? last time i heard, he is on marriage #5 and child #7. so that's apparently not an age-gap thing, as much as a different-life-experiences thing.@jrd, yes, in manosphere terms i’m “past my prime”if you were interested in being a bar skank, than you might be past your prime, but if you are interested in being a great mother, you are probably riding the wave right now. don't let other's opinion trouble you, people will always have something to say anyway. i’d chosen the example of reggie miller and three-point shooting instead, would you have claimed “this isn’t true” and argued that you can shoot threes well? tyrion has retained empathy in the face of horrific abuse and a kind of integrity. this near-incomplete ability to function in the real world, i had nearly a 4. 🙁zach, you can correct me if i’m wrong, but i’ve never “heard” you connect emotionally to any girl, with the exception of your ex-girlfriend. so much in the ‘i miss you and can’t wait to see you tonight’ kinda way. heard her boys, make sure to develop a strategy of least interest 🙂. they are so desperate to escape the dysfunction and correct the wrongs of their daddies who they never met that they do think “wife wife wife” after about the 2nd date with a non-ghetto girl. i’d say my “love type” is giving gifts (not necessarily material, but a sweet card or gesture, cooking, etc. was being intentionally hyperbolic– you’ve never said the 5lbs part to my knowledge. goldload more comments (3 replies)load more comments (15 replies)[–]sairyn 297 points298 points299 points 1 year ago (23 children)didn't realize my boyfriend was ten years older than me until our first date.“lol, that post i wrote about that shit test has gone viral on reddit half a dozen times, been featured prominently on pua forums all over the place, and generally made me the least popular woman that nobody ever heard of in america. that, susan has mentioned how a good sense of humor and a quick wit give less-than-conventional-attractive men a huge bonus. i recently saw him in something else, playing a bad guy.@madisonkci don’t understand the whole waiting until a man is financially stable before entering relationships. affairs are common – the woman has little to lose if she’s young and single, provided she doesn’t fall for you. as someone said in this thread, he either wants sex or is interested in finding his future wife.., established emotional connection between you) before she’s into being physical. grandfather was in the army with this one guy who isn’t even all that great-looking. tyrion lannister is the most “alpha” guy on the show! maybe now i will think about the online dating thing. maybe the guy ought to respect her wishes for emotional comfort and love before sex. might find this funny though: during my episode, when i was hallucinating/hearing voices, i heard my bf’s voice tell me that we could talk to each other telepathically, because we were “soulmates. and for better or worse, you and i are pretty like minded.’s a set of men in my office in their 40s that look after themselves, and while no one would confuse them for a fresh college grad they’re not even close to paunchy, and in fact can still run rings around the mid 20s guys. a woman to commit at 21 for life is asking for divorce. if a 21 year old woman wants to hitch her wagon to a 60yo mans truck, i have no issue with it at all. yes, dates can be a lot of fun, but i also can have lots of fun with my friends, without spending all the mental energy of being on my game, making conversation, and spending $$. sometime in the near future her aunt will most probably be a grieving widow too. the same messege that tells a woman to look past 3. don’t see the reason to wait for a guy to become a better catch if he is generally a good guy, has graduated college and is willing to have a relationship now. i got the “marriage is the goal” memo, i fixed the problem.“marry a man 10 years older and you could be in for a 20+ year widowhood. sure, it might not last forever, by hey, let’s enjoy it while we can. look at this beautiful face:Hey cooper, what say we build a time machine and go beat up future cooper and future intj for hogging all the girls?@sw“i wonder what it is about these women who could transfix a guy enough to actually spur him to write a longing post about her, wanting to know her, but knowing full well she would probably never even see it. people don’t start a relationship with the intent or hurting the other person, especially an if i can do better, i will mindset. my advice to a sorority girl in this position (which i have given) is to take a step back from the sorority’s social scene, dress like a non-greek, and get involved in other campus activities. not only has it taught me patience (which isn’t easy), but i’ve always been free to express myself and simply be me.” namely, people will talk about doing something, or click on a link, leave a comment or glance at a list of tips. average] and enrolled her in a local school), and started working part time and met a guy.”this is kind of my argument against older parents (meaning 30+ when they start having kids). more i look at that picture, the more convinced i am that cigstache is a fat guy with manboobs and rocker hair that he put in pigtails for halloween.@intjyou know, i would keep a hopeline phone number on hand, just in case, for your friend. so it is not tied into attractiveness, but rather the desire to find a long-term relationship. i think most women don’t struggle with fertility before their mid to late 30s. gold[–]ahm_an_ahlehphahnt 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (1 child)it's good that he's doing well with his classes and mental health. i think she is more self conscious about it than i am.’re missing the fact that you can see potential in a person and fall for them hard, and happily enter an ltr with them, all the while knowing that you will most likely not marry. hey single girls, have you started to predict the name of future so yet? deti does this constantly – he accuses, and then when i ask him to explain, he resorts to “well, that’s what feminists do to men. now hold out for girl who aren’t scared of the intimacy, because i think it’s the wrong girls that it repels.” after being told i was too gross to be touched, i would give myself a hug and say, i love you just the way you are, to me. it goes without saying that you’ll need to be a quality woman worthy of commitment. and until we do –which i believe only comes after this life– the only superiority we can practice is a false one. i know i wouldn’t have ever met my bf in my current circles, and given the incredibly stressful pressure i was under on my previous team, it’s unlikely i would have met anyone else! realize this will be a very unpopular opinion, but i don’t understand why people will put off getting married because of a pregnancy.“i’ve also never understood the appeal of dating “for fun”. i find some awkwardness and shyness around sex to be a little endearing. goldload more comments (8 replies)[–]dracinia 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (1 child)my mom and dad were 35 years apart; i never realized how weird it was until i got older and people started pointing it out. how ltr/marriage maintain the same rules, dating does not. then he won an arm wrestling competition against a big drunk guy who wouldn't leave him alone until he accepted the challenge. i can think of a number of guys who you should share that thought with.’ve probably just outed myself as a huge, longterm hus lurkeri’ve done the whole swaying your hips/gliding while in public. the idea of waking up next to ron perelman (i can’t even bear to think about going to sleep with him) is enough to make me want to run away to the other side of the country and wait tables.[–]waffleironone 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (2 children)this is so cute it sounds like a nicolas sparks movie. when it comes to women, i am sure beyond all doubt that i can ltr her in 4 dates. i don’t really think it’s been much of a waste. only that real spark is going to see you through 25+ years. given how heavily oriented towards women those workplaces are, it tends to reinforce the worst female behaviors (cattiness, distorted body image, etc) just as finance reinforces many of the worst male ones (douchebaggery, cockiness, etc). at some point it came up and i fessed that i was horrified that even though she expressed interest in a relationship, that it would end up just being sex. dating is good, dating is healthy, and dating is no strings. years older (the female preference), you might want to look at guys a bit older.’d say, we in central and eastern europe are blessed in that you can find even our feministic protest events quite enjoyable: ukrainian feminists i’d love to … met(per analogy to milf, this would be ufilf).’“i ran away to the video game world because the real world had nothing to offer me. yet, so many of your posts are crabbing about how bad things are. both hubby and i have diabetes in our genes so the kid is practically doomed i don’t have longevity genes so i might not seen my grandkids (i grew up without grandparents myself so that might had made it an easier choice) i still decided to procreate because there is no such a thing as perfect genes and there is always the chance that technology will advance to a point that you kids will have a different life or even if it doesn’t imagine if stephen hawkings mother would had decided not to have him. my grandmother dealt with his grumpiness and whatnot because of it, and my mother constantly used him as an example of what not to be when i grew up. an older man *may* have the ability to attract younger women, but this is because he has elevated himself above the majority of other men, younger and older – largely in spite of his age not merely because of it, and he must continue to work at it. conservatism was not lauded; on the contrary, it was generally considered an indicator of either past (probably medicated) trauma, flakiness, or, god forbid, a provincial/rustic upbringing. a college degree and a solid corporate gig used to be more than enough. women sometimes assume these men are playboys who are having the time of their lives, in reality, most of these men are exhausted and would love nothing more than to settle down with the right girl. they broke up a few years later; this affected how she viewed things. if i was friends with charles manson, and a girl who he was hitting on asked me what he was like, i’d tell her he was a fantastic, balanced, sane guy. can correct me if i’m wrong, but it sounded like loveless sex was a crap deal that made him unhappy. recall that he was distinctly displeased with the female selection on the east coast because he complained about it., chuck defending the actions of dan, re: working the room, running game, means that chuck is a solid wingman but it is not the same as dan expressing interest himself nor does it not nullify dan’s actual behavior. do you think that is enough time to know someone well enough to sleep with? but the ports are still very strong, it’s still massively important transit and rail hub, and light manufacturing is doing ok across a range of products.“there is no way that the average 75 year old is more appealing than the average 15 year old. seriously though, i do tend to relate to judiasm better than anything christian. in today’s world it is perfectly fine for women to express sexual revulsion about fat and ugly men. i said this:while you may not want to focus exclusively on older guys, i recommend that this be one strategy in your portfolio.”they should expect to have their needs met and relative stability in the pairing. i don’t talk to anyone much, if i can help it. there is a lot of socialization against those types of relationships, which may explain why a lot of women find the older guy unappealing, or maybe they just aren’t wired that way. i am not saying that a guy i meet this weekend at a bar couldn’t be ideally compatible, but how would i really know if i’ve barely had any adult relationships? sometimes people want a little space or it’s too hot to cuddle, but you still want to know the other person is there. i’ve lost touch with her, but she found someone perfect just when she was at your age, i think. and how exciting, to think i could have been there at that moment, witnessing the interaction but not realizing its significance! being in my mid-twenties i tend to care and worry too much, and sometimes i don't feel completely sure of who i am.” they only jump on her when she makes any perceived misstep. my only question would be why you would want to be friends with c. perception is reality, and my perception of a woman “changing” attraction triggers due to age is no different than my perception of a woman “settling” for a beta because she can no longer snag an alpha. goldload more comments (3 replies)[–]elyisgreat 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago (2 children)all i can think of is hating sand. she said she has always been aware that she is a high-kino person in general (touches people when conversing with them, likes to hug friends, etc.@tedted, i’m going to keep being mean and picking on you! one over-30 commenter was preoccupied with “young hot girls”, and another one displayed what you reported – that it’s not hypocritical for a man to sleep around yet expect women to be virginal. if the ‘sphere went mainstream, the crazier voices would be silenced to some degree. what if you were forced to describe them without using quotes, what would you say. no longer was able to choose from the california girls. it is also why “complete honesty” can simply not be a part of the “dating” experience. this last bit was to make the trans students in the group feel welcome. my good character will show up once you get to know me! before marriage, you are not obligated to stay with someone through thick and thin.”i’ve noticed a great amount of disgust toward women over the age of 30. yet most of them don’t want 10 years of onss either, frequent or occasional. because he hates ny and can’t wait to return to ca, and you cannot even imagine leaving all the people you love in the world other than him to move to the west coast.. i would never advise women to turn a guy down for being the same age!, with that in mind, is that kind of rule-of-thumb (regardless of it’s accuracy/helpfulness) “beyond the pale”? i miss my wife at least once every week day, although most of the time it is a fleeting moment and i move on. do you know how lucky you are to have found someone so great at the age of 17? but, if both of them are newly graduated, unless he has a very specific desire on where to live, why wouldn’t they both just go where the first job appears? i don’t think the same has been true of the men regarding her appearance![–]manypuppies 22 points23 points24 points 1 year ago (1 child)not really actually. and that the failing of men today fall completely on the men of today, themselves. its a woman’s prerogative to reject yo’ ass too. guys want the young thing, and women wish they were the young thing again. me, that’s the equivalent of hanging out with ryan gosling. and quite possiblely for many years, too, just like my grandmother. whether single women in their 30s represent the optimal strategy for males is another question, and one i have not attempted to answer. i think many men like you have little interest in very young women. i know it’s small beans compared to something like our deficit, but the thought of someone actually beating them literally made me smile. the phony abraham lincoln appeared on the bridge of the enterprise, he called lt. really don’t understand couples who do the stadium scoreboard proposal sort of thing. these men are saying these things, my husband is a man, therefore he must feel the same way. there’s a certain kind of intellectual intuition that makes many math and abstract concepts essentially transparent. him she had assumed i was also, 30 and playing for the other team. 🙂my point is that sociosexuality is indeed on a spectrum, but the discussions here, such as the beta provider ones, tend to focus on the extremely unrestricted women, i. you, most people won’t end a relationship for just any reason. i feared that by the time i could be close enough to trust this woman, she would be in her 40's and kids might not be a possibility so, reluctantly i shut it down., even the “devout” want a free fcuk sometimes if it comes from someone they can feel morally superior to. my husband was a dad’s basement dwelling video gamer who had a low paying job and still going to school when we met. he would be cool to hang out with, but i don’t really have the desire to date him or sleep with him. i hated myself so much and tried to hide, wherever and whenever i could. i used the word boor to describe him as a “rude, ill-mannered person. the first is an ltr timed thing, the second should be known within the first few minutes (seconds if your a man) ., i did not mention his story because he was and is an odd guy. i am very open to a ltr especially if i hit it off with someone., that’s an interesting notion re: reasons for male attractiveness going into middle age.”i kissed two different people during my five years in college, both of which resulted in severe emotional messes.?When you're young, you think "older men must think i'm hot compared to those old bags in their thirties.’s a mental feature more than “going to grad school at mit” and only applies to certain mathematical/scientific domains.@ jpcan’t he just set the portfolio on “auto-trade” using some quant-provided mathematical algorithm and just let it run? don’t see women who are not skinny being treated just as a normal person, though i’d like to hear other people’s thoughts on this. far too few are spelling this out for young women today. i’m having a hard time seeing what’s in it for him, so she might try to figure that one out.“my guess is that female fantasies about pinning you to the wall and exhausting you were occurring with rapid fire frequency. would liken window shopping in today’s envirnment to a few dates–3 should do it but let’s say no more than 6–before you really know if you see a potential in that person. we can still drink people under the table, we just don't want to do it at some crappy, crowded dive bar. dating is really good for introverted guys who don’t feel comfortable as comfortable “picking up” a girl at a bar or even a party. i found that virtually everyone was spinning plates to some extent (perhaps not sexually with all plates—there might be an ex who is now an fwb over here, two or three new pre-sex prospects over here, a long-distance situation over there…) and that complexity and intrigue should be assumed.“i just got back from cancun for 10 days, and took down four girls there. in an polygamous society like that of the ancient hebrews, a man can not commit adultery with a single woman since she is a potential wife. unfortunately, 90% in the sphere would view him as awesome alpha. he didn’t promise a life on easy street with tons of chicks and things going your way. susan said earlier, she just wasted an afternoon on semantics. numbers do not say whether it’s men not wanting marriage, or women. gold[–]richtersmask 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (0 children)i was so on board with this story until you said that. the rapist had to offer marriage, but if he was refused, he still owed the bride price. despite not being religious anymore, you and i have far more in common with folks like jackie, than susan or sassy. i hated dating, i had a lot of bad experiences, and i would be totally fine if i never had to go back into the nyc shark-infested waters. do think susan needs to realize that ltr/marriage are essentially the same. go on a day-date with no potential for sexy time. he’ll figure out his real mmv/smv soon enough. committing before a trial period, aka dating, is likely to lead to divorce. dating is good, dating is healthy, and dating is no strings. his son likes me and so does the rest of his family.)she wants a susan-style ltr (“at-will” monogamy until further notice, easy unilateral exit, no required consideration of the other person’s feelings). – “but it’d be nice to offer my hypothetical children a similar experience. not only that, if a woman enjoys regular sex, chances are that when she is over forty her husband may have less of a libido or ed issues., ted, i’m not only on the side of the restricteds, but if the smp was a video game, my difficulty settings of religion make it a lot trickier than yours.@susan“the only guy who liked me was the drug addict who thought i was wholesome enough to save him.’d figure bringing out that side of her is something most restricted guys would want, but who knows maybe i’m wrong.. i completely glossed over the fertility note in the link. once have i ever seen their ilk working at a soup kitchen or similar. pissed me off that both ned and khal droga died though. we met through his ex boyfriend whom i met online and became good friends, then they broke up quite soon after i met them irl. part of why my attempts to find a church to belong to has failed. (cheers)i have no axe to grind here, i’m just asking if there might be preferences between the sexes for how to get them to ‘stick around’.@passer byi am oddly touched by roissy’s being oddly touched by mystery. sounds kind of crazy now, but hey we're getting married in a few months, shortly before our 8th anniversary (how do you spell that?) i immediately re-clothe her and get her off the bed/couch and closer to the door or in the hallway where we can sit with one another., it’s opened me up a whole network of people i wouldn’t have met and experiences i wouldn’t have otherwise had, which i feel has matured me a bit too.’d love to get back to latin america, to be honest, even if just for a visit, and i’d like to bring my bf with me. he was not handsome as a young man, nor was holly pretty as a young woman. perhaps an intellectual connection has been established, but most likely not an emotional one., she’s 21, so 3/year means by 25 n=12+whatever she is now, which we know is not 0, so at least 13. despite her amusement with the man’s qiana (tm) shirt–looked like silk , but was actually polyester! what is the point of being with someone this long if marriage isn’t the end goal? i don’t think there is much of a nightlife scene for young people where i grew up., most people of both sexes would prefer to be both (marriage material and hot fuck material), but if they had to choose one, that’s how it would break down, imo.” the typical response is “where are getting this craziness coming from?@gayatrihere’s the comment i left her (not sure if she’ll allow it since she seems devoid of any sense of personal responsibility in choosing a guy with several red flags waving brightly and boldly in her face; he was a douche for deceiving but come on, have some common sense):“so you had dozens of guys interested in you and you chose the guy in an open relationship with a gf for most of those months before sex? it’s perfectly reasonable for those men to disqualify carouselers.@charlotte:the most important thing to remember is that cooper is not an “older guy” within the context of this post. goldload more comments (1 reply)[–]rab777hp 59 points60 points61 points 1 year ago (6 children)so let me get this right. cooper, waiting should be the furthest thing from your mind. sad part, i think is that she saw more into her dating relationships than the men she was with did. his daughter ends up being played by a cad who used the lessons directly from her dad’s blog. accept that i need exceptionally tight girl game and proceed accordingly., you really need to an article on the benefits to early-twenties women from having a no-strings hot affair with a dapper guy in his late 40s. however, any way you slice it, we are going to have ltrs – with sex – before people marry.. dance, writing) that get me a lot of girlfriends and gay friends, but not a lot of opportunities for a boyfriend.@susan:” that lasted seven months, and he didn’t fall in love.’s view of ltrs seems exceptionally cut-throat and harsh to me and more suited to robots than to people with actual feelings. it is pretty common for high ranking military officers to be self-hating, closeted, conservative gays. the meanest, nastiest and yappiest siamese was named “joffrey”– ha ha ha! i’ll follow passer_by in not mention the “h.”not exactly, but close: it *should* be clear from my commentary that i want everyone to be more restricted, in behavior, attitude, and desire. they often get played freshman year once, get even more cautious, and promptly become invisible to the frats for the remainder of their college years. i thought that was how most men (and women) dated these days. gold[–]wegetityoublaze 14 points15 points16 points 1 year ago (7 children)considering the majority of people on the planet use centimeters. he was extremely prone to jealousy – our whole relationship was high drama. the knowing exactly how the day will end, and how tomorrow will start. reads to me as a way of gaining control over past trauma. if we are sleeping apart on the bed, she often slides her foot over until she touches me just to feel me there. not to say that these women don’t want to get married, it just hasn’t even crossed their mind seriously at that time point. even his doctor tells him at his yearly physicals that he's probably going to live well over 90 with his current state. quality men date as a means of shopping, and they are quick to exit once they’ve determined it’s not a match. that guy didn’t even let me come up for air. ran away to the video game world because the real world had nothing to offer me. they make him father's day gifts and do all but call him dad. i am a little disappointed since most of the other guys i meet are pretty lame (don’t have their shit together, get wasted every weekend, you know, stereotypical young finance guys in nyc, frat boy mentality) and these guys were both very good at making conversation, mature, funny, not alcoholics…basically just much more fitting into what i’m looking for.“nyc is full of super-busy people, especially businessy-businessmen doing lots of business. being said, as much as i am attracted to a woman with this personality type, i’m with zach on the sexual repression angle. he was very good looking, but kind of a mess emotionally, he had a terrible relationship with his father, who was a high testosterone type who called him a sissy. in market terms you want to buy when the price is low, and when your own purchasing power is the highest.” but they don’t understand that it becomes more difficult to connect with people as the years trundle on. after we do that, which can take weeks for some and years for others, we have a period where we’re emotionally open.’s clear that female fantasies differ considerably from what men perceive as alpha. it will get better as you move into the 2nd and 3rd episodes i think. maybe it looked like she didn’t care, maybe she really didn’t care, but the point is that you don’t know the whole truth. i just cannot be the one to make the moves. for a guy, being told you’re the one they will mature into wanting is sort of like telling a girl that she’s just a cum dumpster who isn’t suitable for ltr. and hey, let’s toss in some man shaming based on his age and the fact that he still thinks much younger women are hot and it will be a perfect double score! quick note, in case your friend ever mentions suicide again: generally, there should be cause for alarm if someone indicates intentions of a plan. maybe i’m a 5 and don’t know it yet. susan is tacitly supporting it, and i’m simply pointing it out. –i would never suggest it or want it for my older daughter, but bastiat’s suggestion of a kindler, gentler carousel might be just the trick for charlotte. he could be angry after he would hear that, but then, wouldn’t be telling him to re-evaluate his value in the eyes of his “targets” be actually better for him? there are students who are referred to as “college marrieds,” and they share all meals, sleep together in the same bed every night, study together, etc. as long as it isn’t 100% intentional, i suppose we men are supposed to be ok with it… i wouldn’t insist you “be ok with it,” but you should realize that there are plenty of guys who love the party girls until it’s time to get married and then go looking for a “good girl” and are then surprised that restricted girls don’t trust players. i can’t imagine being comfortable around strangers, which is why “dating” as you describe it seems like torture to me. on about “sloppy seconds” has an entirely different meaning, as otc said it usually refers to being the ‘second’ in a night, but i suppose it can be broadened to simply “not there first. when i mentioned mother teresa, i was looking for an example of a famous person who wrestled with faith and still completed the mission. how they respond in a crisis, whether they are generous by nature, whether they demonstrate love and affection or are very restrained. do understand that – the problem occurs when we extrapolate those “herb” experiences to be true of the general population, to the point that awalt. her condition shouldn’t have been making him “play the part. on top of that, her language and concerns (sloppy seconds, thinking he would brag about going to second base) would suggest that she is, at best, emotionally stunted in this area and, at worst, full of real hang ups.’s definitely truth here, and it isn’t fair for those guys in their 30s who, by career choice or bad luck (sound familiar ladies? loads of physical problems, like a vitamin d deficiency or seasonal affect disease as mentioned above, can manifest as depression. martin plays his cards close to his beefy chest, but i would not rule out a daenerys/sansa catfight smackdown for the iron throne. if you happen to still be all those things with your husband despite him not exerting any level of dominance whatsoever, then great for you.””i think you are knocking down a straw man here. i loved learning about a new genre of music, too. for all we know, she was misinformed and ignored at those “peak ages” as well.'t always assume the guy is just in it to "hit it and quit it". i know i'm bisexual, but i've always stated i'm going to fall in love with a person - not a man or woman or white or black or asian or tall or short blah blah.” i don’t see that as having anything to do with me. problem is typical: my ideal woman would be a shy, introverted, conservative women that turns into a nympho only in my company. what if he is doing the same with me – seeing if he is interested, and if so, pursuing further? otherwise, she gave him the excuse to break up with her with her reticence. anyone who references the hitchhiker’s guide to galaxy gets an automatic bump in attractiveness. he doesn't smoke, drink, or use any narcotics either, and no one ever guesses he's in his 50's. statistically the chance of down syndrome goes way up in older parents. we might expect some eyebrows to be raised if alain tries to date 19 year old yvette.’s a pretty common meme that women attempt suicide as a cry for help, men commit suicide as a solution. about a month ago i was involved in a rescue when it was -40.@detideti, i don’t think hope made your point for you at all. meeting a hot girl on wow was probably a fantasy of mine as a teenager. unfortunately, i’ve seen many parents take great pride in having a ladykiller son., i am not any kind of perfect example– i was trained specifically to hate myself by an evil narcissist relative norma desmond. i can’t believe the mushy stuff some of you guys like to do! hell, i couldn’t even reliably tell you what women found attractive in me based on what i know now, so how would i have ever truly known if a woman was very attracted for sure? it isn’t that i don’t love them, but unless i have something specific to discuss, i simply don’t even think of talking to them. we have been together about 15 years and still disagree about how to do things sometimes.@susanfigured i’d give you an update on that (what i’m looking for).: “we all know rob wants/deserves a hot, younger girl”i can’t tell you how often i’ve thought the same thing. his “usual” way of doing thing wasn’t working for him. my “crushes” we’re on a shy and artistic brunette, a fiery red with a serious tomboy streak, and from there my ltrs which were all brown to black hair, all real boobs.@zachthen she said all she could think about was the eighth grade term “sloppy seconds” and if i was going to tell my friends we went to second base. i agreed, and we played a doubles game with some of his friends. a lot of women require trust to really let go and then they surprise you. as other have mentioned, therapy, social support, diet, exercise, hobbies, and medicine. should he be angry if you would pointed that out for him?@zachthis doesn’t really sound like a match, to be perfectly blunt.: “i think for college educated males it’s somewhere between 30 and 32. gold[–]thomasbombadilius 69 points70 points71 points 1 year ago (3 children)being a grownup is poopy. the loft bed lost its appeal sometime between 12 and 13 years old it seems. funny thing is, when we are together we spend a lot of time in silence. we’re shallow and focused on your looks and your money; and if you’re fat and ugly, you better have big bucks or you’re never going to get laid”. there is very little “fun” in a fresh date for me. age difference becomes very insignificant when you have the right balance with each other., honestly, what does it matter to hus what the manosphere thinks? i think having a bad personality may be an issue. we fell in love, and got married when i was 34.[citation needed]typically males die from suicide three to four times more often as females, and not unusually five or more times as often. human beings are naturally motivated to assert their values; to think their values are best; and to be intolerant of people with opposite values. unfortunately, i am not sure how many women he has being able to trust in his life. fact that he is still alive tends to mean he sees a future that gets brighter. if i’m your girlfriend, i want you to end it with me. yes, dates can be a lot of fun, but i also can have lots of fun with my friends, without spending all the mental energy of being on my game, making conversation, and spending $$. out is truly nothing but a cock tease to most guyswe don’t do it to tease, ted. my traffic is still growing rapidly, my inbox is full. the bad news is they may be so set in their ways that they are lousy at making the compromises that help a marriage get over the rough spots. had never thought of addressing the suicide issue in such a manner before. and that is what draws and transfixes people, despite the most utterly mundane circumstances.@jackiei really wonder how people come to the conclusion that money can make them happy., what i’m getting is that i should just hang back until i decide “i’m hunting for a relationship” and practically have it tattooed across my forehead. by the way, bet it made the girl’s day, too. asked if she could recommend me to the school psychologist three times, denied every time. father broke off an engagement after catching the girl cheating. it takes time to blossom, and for the people in the relationship to realize that they see this person becoming a part of their life and putting more effort into the relationship. don’t recall saying anything bad…wayyyyyyy off topic maybe, but my links were fun. had a roommate too that dated a serious, smart girl and he loved to joke around. swear i was going to say the same thing, but felt that the moment had passed. tribalism, ie favoritism towards the in-group, occurs across every culture and time frame, and is driven by genetics (your tribe is much more likely to share genes with you than some outsider). they would probably introduce one another to family at this point, perhaps visit one another’s hometowns, etc. both an emotional and physiological response that is probably far more powerful than normal. you are not engaged, nor have you discussed becoming engaged. i wish all the ladies of hus could get together for tea or something and just recount stories to one another. should know that it might be really important that mask their real feelings and pretend to be less interested than they really are. it was lunchtime, and my brothers started telling me they were hungry. he manipulated the shit out of me and verbally abused me for almost a year.” imagine that you are dating a woman and have been for two years. don’t write off a guy after the first date or two if you don’t feel any “chemistry”. reminded me so much of talmudic scholarship, and i loved learning that! goldload more comments (1 reply)[–]geraldbwilsonjr 81 points82 points83 points 1 year ago (5 children)oh. needs to defend himself to monica because he, once, broke up with a girl because she gained weight. it was quite strange to read all these avowedly devout people get angry at me for saying that the player lifestyle is immoral. my husband was a dad’s basement dwelling video gamer who had a low paying job and still going to school when we met. suddenly the body they’ve enjoyed and “owned” is the primary source of nourishment for someone else. – “missing me while he is supposed to be managing a portfolio sounds like bad news for investors. real problem is when you have a clingy and a non-clingy together. but, for this to be credibly operational, monogamy must be enforced. yet most of them don’t want 10 years of onss either, frequent or occasional. if i don’t have her number, it’s a big risk that she’ll be gone when i get back (especially if i meet another girl and there’s a big time gap).@jackieit’s interesting that judaism doesn’t include the nt (obvs! it asked you to imagine what a person meeting for you for the first time would notice and what they would think you would have to offer based off that initial 1st impression. gold[–]ion1444 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (0 children)no homo?

you are one of the regulars here that i tend to use as a way to judge my ideas by your reaction. he must sweeten the deal with some number of $ and status. he was about 40 also, and somehow he got around to asking her how old she was. i got three spoons from the drawer, and peeled away the foil. chuck vouching for dan’s character is a massive red flag. or better yet, free to marry someone who thought i was the bee’s knees. 🙂well now the plot has roped me in, so i’m going to watch episode 3.”i spent college pretty much withdrawn and depressed, although that was mostly an inability to cope with self-structured life. now the question is, where to meet these good guys? no chance to scare guys off because wearing fashionable clothes, and not that many gays there i guess too. raising sons to be productive members of society rather than pussy chasers.”i think this is one of the problems in life; you are generally going to find someone you like better because you are going to continue to be exposed to new people as you move forward in life.@ted d“i think you may perceive it that way, but that isn’t where i am coming from. they may mature from liking bad boys in high school to selecting for character in college. from talking to him, i got the sense that he may have been raised in a less “racially tolerant” household., at least for the time being, the ‘sphere is going to continue to be marginalized and so, therefore, you are going to get a somewhat poor signal-to-noise ratio., the manosphere does not have any mainstream outlets (things like maxim and fhm most definitely do not count). jeff and i have a great time, i like this kid. i remember when we were at the hospital my mom sent him a text saying that she was dying. we started hanging out together to keep mutual company when we would get bored, and i started to hang out with her more and more till one day i realized that i enjoyed being with her more than being without her.”well, if you are a size zero anorexic, you are certainly less likely to have womanly curves. i was just not interested in a relationship at all during that time. lol i always say my ideal life includes twenty chickens, twenty dogs, ten horses, some cats, big outdoor aviary, etc. it’s hard though – it’s a tough thing to do halfway, so it often does mean separating from the sorority.@susan:“missing me while he is supposed to be managing a portfolio sounds like bad news for investors. most guys i know think that way as well, but plenty of girls i know have said they could make out for hours with nothing else. i won’t say marriage, because at this point i’m not 100% sure i know what marriage actually is today. yes, she does tend to up the kino on me (not that we aren’t rather physical anyway. i would have had no issue at all going 10 years younger, and 13 years younger would have made her 29, which imo is plenty old enough to decide who she wants to marry. when i say than i am older than i look, people look at me carefully and say “so you are what, 30? so my absolute guess is that there are a lot of comments never getting to see the light of day, and that peej is a major source of them. there was no fliration or encouragement of sexual feelings on my part, and he did a fairly good job of hiding his feelings, which built up gradually, for years. the fourth time, the point is this: there’s a lot of anger and bitterness and hostility in the manosphere. it was not always this way, i have family (by marriage) who are old h-p, n-b wasps and in their heyday they ruled that area and all their institutions, such as the la country club, the california club and the newport harbor yacht club, las madrinas and the like were off limits to movie people. nobody mentioned that the social hierarchy in college is rather fragmented, and the smart guys are outside the sexual hierarchy. of the modern problem is that the transition from fun to work is relatively jarring and means that the “fun” part is going to decline because you don’t get to stay in the “fun zone”. just because the man is older does not mean the child would not be taken care of, one way or another. my dad walks up to my nana and starts flirting and asks if she's with anyone, my nana says yes, she's married, but meet my daughter. his daughter ends up being played by a cad who used the lessons directly from her dad’s blog. you have to try different people on until you find one that is a great match. don’t worry, like tedd, i do get comfort from the marriage. my experiment was spurred by a discussion that occurred here. i’m curious because i personally don’t know many (or any) guys that are overly emotional like you’ve described- it would seem intuitive that most men would be overly guarded about their emotions (and yes, i may be biased because that is how i am). it doesn’t come from a negative place on my friends’ part, but they often don’t know how to react to my bringing someone who’s significantly older than them. is at least 10 years older or younger than you, how did you meet? i was fresh out of school and was looking for work, the last thing i’d do is pick somewhere to go and then start looking. is it really controversial to say that most people don’t continue to look great into their 60s, as compared to 20-30 years younger? one of those things that isn’t fun but can be managed.”well, if you go limerant, that decision gets made for you because it causes a cognitive system crash and you’re just along for the ride. like i said, online dating is normal in nyc (where people are stressed to the death over their careers and have run out of numbers in their rolodexes). but, one of my really good buddies was in theater- this dude made the rest of us look stupid with girls (and my friends were mostly not stem guys or bookworms, we were at the bars every weekend).@tedi will reply to the rest of your points after i’ve had a bit o’time to think. fact i think i’ll pull an all-nighter and watch season 1 of game of thrones tonight while coding my research. he trades on his family influence, has to buy his women, and is also overshadowed by jamie and ned. there is nothing more distracting than being freshly in love. there comes a point where she tears it off, lol. we come from very different places and views, but i do believe that rollo has men’s best interests at heart, and i respect that, even if i don’t care for some of his methods. its no one else’s responsibility to be attracted to them. why on earth would a 55 yo man not want that?“look, some girls really do have beautiful eyes and smiles, and we get transfixed”shallow. i don’t think there is much of a nightlife scene for young people where i grew up. have a question, mainly for the girls, that is completely off topic:let’s say you had a friend who was dating a great guy for a good while and found out that he just asked her to marry him and she accepted and she was really excited by it. i don’t think unrestricted folks are incapable of forming real connections, it just tends to happen in a different order relative to sexual contact., and re: the downsides of dating older men–such as decreased libido and longevity–men who are into physical fitness will mitigate or obliterate both of these boundaries. i was literally smirking at the thought, and only realized it when i saw myself in the review mirror while scanning behind me, as is my routine. because honestly, the behavior appears to be exactly the same to me, and perception seems to be the sticking point between men and women on this., i won’t suggest anyone withdraw from the social scene because they aren’t ready to commit to a marriage, as some of the guys seem to be suggesting. she should be hailed as a girlfriend-worthy material, and yet she’s being called weird.”you said leaving one ltr when someone better comes along. i think many guys employ the same reasoning as i do in dating, that they will go out casually, meet new people, and at the chance they find someone whom they connect with, possibly start a relationship when they feel it is right. i know that she’s the one who has less to loose than me in the end, but so what? i tend to be the one with insecurities, maybe i should knock it off. for others it’s a viable way to meet different people. i pretty much treated him like my grandfather as a kid. the popularization of second wave feminism, with the accompanying view that a woman’s virginity was her own to dispose of, removed those laws from the books, but i would bet that someone on this thread will characterize the criminal prosecution of the man in your link as “feminist. but you have never felt this degree of longing before, for any woman. i mean, if we are going to talk about the way i think the world should be, lets start with cutting down the west’s sexuality by half as the first swing of the sword, then we can keep whittling it down to something more reasonable. was not weird at all meeting for the first time. glibness, guile, and passive-aggressiveness are not hallmarks of the alpha. me put it another way, i don’t find this rule of thumb to be any less useful than, say, “never date anyone at your workplace”, which i have heard many times over the years.’t you ever experienced events that seem more like you are living in a storybook? the next day he told me that he hadn’t heard it until 3 a. have a few friends on board as well, and we are just starting to talk about what we can do to live somewhere else in the world, without all the baggage associated with western society, while being able to have enough money to live there in comfort. 😉 i remember when i have been the recipient of flowers, a kiss on the hand, or some small token of tribute from a guy on the street. 🙂j and kathy, yep i’m grateful to be with a good man. perhaps its just that he has spent several years plowing through the “hotter, younger, tighter” women, so he won’t miss out on anything when he prioritizes the older women now. obviously, there are people who do it and should be commended for faithfulness to a sick spouse, but i have a hard time in understanding why someone might voluntarily sign up for that. i think it’s fair to say that any woman who marries you in future is a fool. like somehow we men just missed the note that it is simply a matter of maturity. or am i wrong and it is supposed to be like, “shit, my ltr is coming over, i’m so annoyed i have to spend time with them.”how many days did you get up to before you had the hallucinations?@hope we are in a more delicate time, less time for each other because of the baby, and no way am i going to let things deteriorateyou are smart.’m not sure that his naural physical condition is much better than that of the mother who gave him two sons and stuck with him through his drug issues.@sassy“at this point, she sounds about as fun as a wet mop. believe that men are most attracted to women who seem maximally reproductive – over a period of time, beginning in their teens. it has lots of t&a, and a very small amount of p&v (iirc). we joke about our age difference, but it really is more about endearment to each other than actual age discrepancies. goldload more comments (7 replies)[–]manypuppies 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (4 children)i'll admit that i had to use google to see how tall he was.’m often angry enough about my own level of non-success (as measured against dink co-physician 0,000 couples and other high earners).@olivewasn’t the unabomber a harvard grad, though, as well? the truth is that without these mores, many men would have sex with females who are not yet adults., if you are a size zero anorexic, you are certainly less likely to have womanly curves. the texting games (how long should i wait to text him back?) the true self is always looking for others who are mature enough to appreciate and prefer the true self as it is rather than encourage and buy into the image of the false self for what it pretends to be. sspent most of my 20s telling people how much i hated little kids and most of my 30s trying to conceive them. you kinda have a habit of relating every single discussion point to one of your “pet” topics (whether that be open marriage, south asian religions/culture, etc. one says: “i hate it when they say they miss you! will always be easier for him to find a wife next year than this year, so why rush? that’s very different, once your career is established in a particular area, and you might have to take a big career hit, if she wants to make a big move in order to advance. i can usually tell if i can “hang out” with a person withing 30 minutes of meeting them, provided i get to watch how they interact with others.@susan“gbfm had a brilliant takedown of players as being in complete opposition to christ’s teachings, and they didn’t like him either. i guess that’s the norm these days, as dysfunctional as it sounds to us. but she didn’t seem interested anymore, so we drifted apart. she’s gorgeous, and goes on maybe 4-5 dates a week, often with different guys (80% from online).“how many times have we heard guys say “sloppy seconds” here? it’s that both parties are free to dissolve the relationship at any time. not taking any non-stem classes this semester, so that cuts down on the interactions with girls. i’m not okay with p&d’ing a girl to make her pay for the sins of your ex-gf who cheated on you. i am happy to share my perspective, though remember i am in no way a professional. all the more reason to stop shaming men in their 30s who are single. i’m not sure if she’s figured out what i’m up to, but she has made a comment or two about “being too lazy to shave”, at which point i usually say something like “i just felt like looking a bit like a lumberjack…” she chuckles and off we go. or, if i decide that the reality isn’t so bad, i adjust the ideal to match. it wasn’t necessarily the clear-cut “alpha fucks, beta bucks” paradigm of gbfm legend, but it rhymed with that—seemed like more of a looks & loose cannon-vs. i'm a school bus driver so i'm only gone 3 hours a day. 😉 the truth came out on the other thread: men are the real emotional ones! remember, i’m only recommending this as one possible strategy. have a good weekend all – even you saywhaat, you argumentative little minx. reading here has helped me realize that most aren’t out doing casual and that has influenced my behavior to seek casual less. you might be gaining points with them, but losing points with the saner population of the world. at this point he is sizing me up as his wife?’ve dived with whale sharks before in the gulf of thailand and the andaman sea.@jackiebut i believe when we do the exact opposite: invite that part of ourselves in to be welcomed and loved with all we have to offer. fortunately the church i go to emphasizes the fact that we’re all broke, no one is perfect, and that that’s ok because it is normal. now, i knew the song, he had performed it for me many times, and also written it out. hektor tobar’s barbarian nurseries is better wolfe on immigration than b to b is, though it features la rather than miami. i have seen her compliment the avatar pix of many men who were, frankly, average.”no, that’s how she feels about marrying an ugly but rich old man for his money when you’re not attracted to him. but if you really just want butterflies and excitement, do what she does. noticed that fornication and divorce are no longer getting people to condemned as depraved and tossed as members of churches. it was too much like dancing with her father (who actually looked rather distinguished as opposed to silly when he would go out). that other guy who pressured me probably thought i was a major prude. i love how he talks about missing girls, just looking at them since he never had any action., there is so much to do and see on this planet. if she knows some of the women or men in zach’s circle, she knows what they are like, she knows that people talk, and she is wondering where she fits in.”moving east was the worst thing that ever happened to my roommate. point is that it’s not accurate to tell men there’s no limit to how young they can go. “here,” she said, “it’s not mine, but it’s the number of someone who looks like me that you might have some things in common with.) a 50 something yo lounge lizard, relatively well preserved and dressed like john travolta, asked her to dance.! melisandre has her beat six ways from sunday in the perimenopausal scorch-cake sweepstakes. i figured they were all mostly not intellectual or sexual. never feels like i'm with someone who is 39 years older than me. “i’ve hung around tons of gamer guys, their partners, friends, families, and all that, and the only two women who ever liked playing settlers of catan were: 1) one woman who was more masculine than 50% of the guys in the game, and 2) a married woman who only played so she could give her husband good deals on trades. and quite possiblely for many years, too, just like my grandmother. stuff would scare the hell out of me if were single though. think talking with her about it and understanding some empathy for where she’s coming and also explaining where you’re coming from and what your intentions are might help. i tell people “you will get mental health care” all the time, but then again they want to get disability benefits so they actually listen to me. again struggling is good as long as is not too much and people get the right guidance, ymmv. i’m sure you are happy to be alive regardless of your disadvantages your kids will be happy too i can assure you., surely, you must understand that it’s weird that she thinks he would brag to his friends (who she barely knows) about taking her top off. don’t see it being her worrying about him getting with her, after she’s been with someone he knows. your wife is away and you long for the desire of a female.”believe it or not their are ways to do this which involve a smile and saying not yet that convey both modest/cuteness and sexual desire simultaneously. we've been together for seven years, met when we worked together during one summer. know this post is a bit late, but i was referred here by someone else and have been reading through the comments.>> “having witnessed the female side of these events with my girlfriends (both as dumpees and dumpers), that is most assuredly not true. goldload more comments (1 reply)[–]bxie 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (2 children)a lot of those posting are younger women dating older men, which generally seems a bit more acceptable in society. but i believe when we do the exact opposite: invite that part of ourselves in to be welcomed and loved with all we have to offer. ”i am surprised that sw’s bf or sassy’s suitors did not call you out for a duel! as don quixote’s delusional chivalric ideals bump up against the humdrum of reality and the views of his more earth-bound companion, sancho panza. celeb examples can help to bolster one’s point but its meaningless in the face of opposing statistical and scientific evidence. this point, you may just want to chalk this up to experience and move on.@jackie 1136+1this is great advice for most people that have an unrealistically negative view of themselves, and good advice for most normal people too. whereas here in texas most girls are 4-8, in california, most girls are 6-9.@susan:“how quickly do you think a person should be obligated to make that decision after meeting someone? this was the custom of burning a widow alive on the funeral pyre of her husband..“there has to be some kind of detente from one side or the other to resolve this. improved drastically after i moved out of a dormitory which was living hell. despite their age, though, they have little experience communicating and negotiating relationships! point was that you were always going to run into people who you thought would make a better match than your husband and that it was just a feature of life. otherwise, you’re living a lie and robbing me of a real opportunity to marry someone who loves me the way you now love the other woman. you believe the feeling is mutual, and you long to touch her. when women are doing the hunting, they can do the choosing – till then, it’s a man’s prerogative… ”lol!: we met in las vegas, she lived in oregon - i lived in ohio. you believe the feeling is mutual, and you long to touch her. two guys behind the deli counter gave me free food!, how much theater did you do in hs and college? i was in college in the 70s, here is what was perfectly normal and appropriate:weekend 1:on friday night i am going to the pike luau with mark j. it has lots of t&a, and a very small amount of p&v (iirc). no matter the nomenclature, she has some sort of awareness that he’s been with more girls that she is comfortable with. the left side is about taking risk to expand options/possibilities, the right side is about mitigating risk to preserve options/possibilities. are still girls today, even cute girls, who are not that comfortable with the 3 date paradigm. and she also was charging like 0/hr for spiritual coaching or something.)not sure if this is an example of girl game, but i have been working on accepting and being nice to people, including myself., when they judge those of us for putting emotions before sex, as prudes, sexually repressed, weird, etc. right now, i’ve finally watched all outstanding episodes of the new doctor who, and am starting to get bored of stargate sg-1 again, so got has entered the slot for the next rotation.@j“you seem to implying that he was taken advantage of. @ hope“ah, maybe that is because i tend to not over-exaggerate the effects of something, the way certain folks in the manosphere shriek every time a woman says something remotely “bad” about any man.. “pretty”, insofar that she seems feminine enough, and she’s cute, and probably the type that a lot of college guys today would love to find but can’t. i’ll let you know next time we have a summer (talking actual weather not time of year).@brohamlet i’ve always been the type to find emotional communication kind of exhausting and awkward, so i’ve never assumed anyone else likes it either. i’ll never understand how some people can become so tied down by geography. but that’s the sort of backlash that happens when you indiscriminately oppress people. dogs go out for a bit but usually come right back in. once i found her (it took about 20 minutes), she was gushing over how great he was, etc.”she laughed and we talked a bit about our departments. i agree with tasmin that the whole wing-man thing, and the buddy asking if you are interested, seems pretty juvenile. granted, a month later he turned 25, but he was wiser, more eloquent and more mature in the spiritual/emotional sense than even many men who have years on him. cooper, time isn’t an old bald cheater, rather, as per this post, time for those unfortunate males under 25, is more like smv steroids. he was a big guy, a very promising football player, and cute.”if he is willing to commit to her monogomously and perhaps get married, then he is her mmv equal, more or less. i would’t touch her with a 10 foot pole for a relationship (btw, these are all things i’ve told her). goldload more comments (1 reply)[–]mdragon13 26 points27 points28 points 1 year ago (0 children)this is the most adorable thing i've read all day. i don’t call him pretty, but i do call him hot, sexy, good-looking and handsome. i wasn’t about to jeopardize my marriage for him, but i did consider him a damn good friend, did not feel that he was trying to take advantage of me, and knew he couldn’t cheat on his wife no matter how much he fantasized about it.. i worried a bit that no one would be amused, but passer_by’s fetishization of dark brown nipples let me know i was right on track. one says: “i hate it when they say they miss you! i’m currently wrapping the print version of this educational manual. i liked his post on the mature man as well.) who were denied counselling and pretty much told to fuck off and man up. the right idea, shared in the right way, can trigger a change in someone. don’t know if you saw it, but saywhaat linked to this study yesterday:ladies prefer thin over machomacho features such as a strong jaw and squinty eyes advertise that a guy possesses high testosterone, according to the immunocompetence handicap hypothesis. it’s so clear to me that women just aren’t taught or encouraged to showcase their feminine traits today.@passer byyou make an interesting point, and perhaps you have cracked the code in bizarro thread. gold[–]vaginasinparis 17 points18 points19 points 1 year ago (5 children)we didn't become "official" rolls eyes until i was 16 (age of consent), but we started talking/flirting/doing coupley things when i was 14 turning 15., killing the men and capturing the women was standard operating procedure in the ancient world–and not so uncommon today either. gold[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (16 children)so how many pets do you guys have now? when polled, men were more open than women to marrying someone they aren’t in love with. not taking any non-stem classes this semester, so that cuts down on the interactions with girls. think for college educated males it’s somewhere between 30 and 32. they will try to do the right thing for both parties by ending the “mini relationship” sooner, rather than later. the notion that women this age will hang out a shingle “husband hunting season is open” is preposterous. to wit, ron perelman with ellen barkin:The genetics thing is rather interesting, hmm. she obviously does, and it’s seen as a mark of immaturity. am the only one of my friends that are remotely interested in men over 35. 😛but i would agree that a ltr is several years. she’s just saying that she isn’t clingy and she wants to take it slow before committing to a serious relationship. one says: “i hate it when they say they miss you!@otc“she wants a susan-style ltr (“at-will” monogamy until further notice, easy unilateral exit, no required consideration of the other person’s feelings).), there was a stark family of kittens with the odd-colored one named jon snow. we just don’t see or hear about them because it is death as a young man to openly identify oneself as a sexual loser. this suggests more of a switch in attraction triggers, not that that will make the guys that were overlooked feel any better with sloppy thirtieths.“if you don’t like that, ignore those women”the problem is, if you’re a 1 out 5, then you’re ignoring nearly everyone, since it’s relative. are very alpha old men like prince philip who we may say has still got it going on for an old goat, but that translates to high smv only for women a bit younger than he is, imo. according to my catholic teachings, i’d have to feel regret and genuine remorse for my past behaviors to get into heaven, and the truth is i don’t in either case. the grocery store yesterday, in a 40 minute timeframe, i had 5 guys come up to me and start talking. we had a lot in common and he was not a douchebag (i mean other than his need to play “the game”). back then i was much perkier, i was manic and i had just lost a ton of weight and i was wearing cute clothes and maybe i came across as more youthful than i was. would you, if in her situation, want to speed up the wedding date or just say, “fuck it, we are definitely getting married, we will just wait until after the baby”? i’m glad that you’ve gotten yourself in a better place now. i just think you’ve got to get with a nicer (trans: more restricted) class of girls! think the 1-10 scale is just about as dehumanizing as you can get: women are being reduced to a number, not even an adjective. i’m curious because i personally don’t know many (or any) guys that are overly emotional like you’ve described- it would seem intuitive that most men would be overly guarded about their emotions (and yes, i may be biased because that is how i am). it’s a nice fantasy, but, as a woman who in her 50s, i can tell you that any affection i feel towards men in their 80s comes out of missing my dad. i apologized for it, but i knew that i had to be honest with him. for all we know, she was misinformed and ignored at those “peak ages” as well. you’re a hot young woman who can’t make rent in a studio apartment and puts a premium on having clothes, shoes, expensive purses, and travel to exotic locales, sleeping with ron perelman probably looks like a dream scenario.@david foster(dawn’s desires at thirty should not be thought of as “settling”…the author makes her sexual desire for her older & more stable new love interest just about as clear as one could get away with in 1911 in a mainstream novel)that’s a very interesting excerpt! the case of some the real fringe guys, i can’t imagine that they might be source of good ideas.’s interesting that judaism doesn’t include the nt (obvs! we were both divorced, and at 32 she met me and things just clicked. why invest anything (emotions, money) in a girl who isn’t serious? sure, a couple of them are slackers, but the vast majority of them are just about to finish school and many of them are quite intelligent and will do very well career-wise.“incidentally, this is one of the guys she thinks might be gay. examples but the general frame is a back handed insult hidden within a complimentary frame. but here’s a conclusion that is right out of the age of romantic novels:what men want“most of the men in these groups want to marry at some future time in their lives,” the researchers conclude.”this is what women think of their aging, not so physically attractive husbands.”it’s hard to get rid of though because of the puritanish association of unrestrictedness and complete moral depravity. – “like, isn’t “i expect to date at least two or three… before i get married” and ” i am just so busy with my own life right now, that i have to be a little selfish” things a cad would say after a p&d? i’ve known several sorority women who would not join if they had to do it again for this reason. at the age of 24, i’ve had a grand total of two serious boyfriends, and i don’t feel that i’ve missed out., that is probably not a very nice joke to make.. the only other possibility is that he’s a total chump. when amped up, she becomes 2-3 “points” (as much as i hate to be numeric) hotter. women sure are a lot different now then when i was 35.”and that sounds very much like a ‘perceiver/feeler” kinda process. but i think it’s very possible to enter an ltr with a great deal of interest and realize over time that the match is not one that warrants marriage. find it really interesting that men either think of women as sex toys or future wives. here’s the point she was making:“fat, ugly boor”“i’d spend every day dreading bedtime – blech! dad and mom got married when he was about 34 and she was 36. he left the job, and got a better one and now i'm living with him. this last bit was to make the trans students in the group feel welcome. to me is that period of time in a new relationship where you are obsessed with the other.) the true self realizes that it can’t and shouldn’t attempt to raise its own status simply by labeling individual and collective “others” as enemies and then devaluing and attacking these others. i wouldn’t mind “i can’t stop thinking about you! a woman should be able to go on dates with a man and decide there is no match – not for sex or a relationship. hubby and i have diabetes in our genes so the kid is practically doomedthat’s sad, i have a friend with type i diabetes and she really struggles. i asked him why and he said hell just froze over 🙂. i’ve had my fair share of guys in their 40s and 50s hitting on me. – i’m not projecting, i’m drinking wine, laying in bed watching tv with the mrs, and posting here during the commercial breaks., for 30 years my husband and i have fallen asleep exactly the same way. or if they are in relationships, or even dating, no one seems happy.“i really really really hate superiority and arrogance and try to stamp out its roots in myself before it can try to bloom. can’t charlotte meet people and go on dates for crying out loud?-leeze lady, purdah is a muslim thing (your sister-religion) and sati is the name of a goddess., this leads to a creepy place: would you be doing really well if she was 20 years your junior? tend to romanticize other aspects of the relationship, protector/nurturer roles are played up for us. here they are in 2012:dude, methinks thou doth protest waaaaay too much. too may as well go and do what you want. just don’t think a lot of women know how to ooze sensuality. i finally had to play the card they said i wouldn’t dare to – i got a job, and moved away. odds of meeting a so online are probably around 10-20%. third-date sex is as much the norm as the exception.@deti“she’s throwing gasoline on that fire by breaking bad on a guy like ron perelman because he’s unattractive. he was the one who told me he missed me often, and he was also the one that i broke up with because i really suspected that he was secretly gay/bi-curious. may be interested in knowing that similar practices existed in pre-christian europe, too. comparisons are inevitable, and zach is used to a certain female response to indicate that he is attractive. charlotte, as long as you go in with open eyes and don’t demand more than what you’re offering (when and if the feelings kick in) i see no problem. i’m not asking for sympathy here – it’s all funny now. be lovey dovey, but don't nickname him something based on his age (fancypants is cool, though). the socionist blog has an interesting analysis of male attractiveness over the life span. i think women could save themselves a lot of heartache if they cut through all the bs and went straight to the bottom line. as long as it isn’t 100% intentional, i suppose we men are supposed to be ok with it… good lord i literally laughed out loud when i saw the original statement. · 1881 comments what simple thing do more people need to know? the only reason ron perelman was able to pull ellen barkin (even when she was 46 and well past her prime) was because of his money.@passer bynot to beat a dead horse, it’s just that her sexuality was most valued when she gave it to the bum, and now she wants the most valuable period of the responsible guy’s life. won’t lie: it can be annoying at times dating someone who has “been there/done that,” but it can also be helpful when your partner can use his experiences to guide you. quality men date as a means of shopping, and they are quick to exit once they’ve determined it’s not a match. problem is that women have a much easier time pouring their feelings out than men do. are some parts of the web that exist which have some very unsavory characters. i don’t generally rely on my “romantic” relationships for this, although i certainly enjoy my wife’s company and conversations.@jl125what’s the psychology in dating an older man who looks young? think this is not uncommon with artistic types – and this guy did go on to make his living acting and singing. i remember debbie holiday, whose boyfriend brad was a senior, told her that i was the fourth cutest girl in the class and he didn’t know why i got no guys. would not date a woman who was dating someone else. i figured they got moodier and grumpier the older they were. went to undergrad in nyc and now i’m working here full-time as well. · 271 comments [serious] what do you love most about your gf/bf/spouse? shouldn’t you feel that way about someone you are with?@saino problem if you’re not interested in having kids really. the fact that his time might be shorter might well be compensated by the ease of resources. my brother thought this was wonderful, and he could not understand my total disgust with this pc nonsense.:“would you say, then, that men can express disgust at fat and ugly women, but women cannot ever do so about men? mean, there were a bunch of us chicks, all on treadmills. it may be unkind, even callous, but that is not the point. just if low interest, not serious, are what a girl is looking for, they’re more likely to attract guys looking for sex, than guys looking for serious. she’d be bored out of her mind with a normal, placid, relationship. she’s married now (still childless though the last time i’ve heard from them; not that she worries about it, she always said that she values her career and having enjoyable private life more). being a bit more selfish and less idealistic is a bit difficult for me, but i am trying. gold[–]jimmyyang3000 56 points57 points58 points 1 year ago (5 children)can you eli5? grew up to the sweetest, most resilient and independent young man you’ve ever seen., a 25-year-old woman explains what it's really like dating an older man nearly 15 years her senior—and lays out the good and bad parts. in my experience, those girls still behave as if they’re in school, and i have little to nothing in common with them.”i had to listen to this transaction take place through my vent in my room in law school once. night, jeff is picking me up for the sig pi party.@ bullymaybe i should be flattered that you mistook me for rollo. was inspired to write this post by a couple of women i know who are really, really enjoying relationships with men ten years older.] ascribe the disparity to inherent differences in male/female psychology.. i am american living in colombia where it is normal for a 20yo to date or marry a 40yo for cultural reasons. high strung is something i’m often accused of by people that know me well., she’s helping future cooper so that the youthful women know that he’s a good catch. just the normal, active, healthy women that would be around the beach or working in west la. since you are wondering - the sex is fucking amazing.@bbthe other side of the coin is that guys who have been successful in that scene probably will accept a higher n in female candidates than most other men will. on what i am reading, this girl is not communicating her interest at all.@loklandhmmmm, i have been worrying about you and the kino’ing chick for days. i don’t have to deal with an ex-wife, stepkids, or any other ties to a former personal life—i don’t think i’d be able to handle that kind of responsibility yet—i know it can be a huge challenge for women who are in that situation. a very small minority of men have a shot with gorgeous 25 year olds when they’re almost 50 (of course depending on what they’re definition of what “gorgeous” is). point is that a lot of women view in this way men who are not classically physically attractive. better to drop disneyesque/churchy ideals of how attraction works, and up your ssi so that it matches reality., i used to care more about that sort of thing, but i’m too old for that now (@jrd, yes, in manosphere terms i’m “past my prime”).@j:“@jpon the other hand, self hugging one’s values is common to all universally reinforcing stimuli. the more i do this, the more people will want to be around you and the more you will like yourself., when you first communicated the concept, i had never thought of it before, and i thought that it was a great tactic for girls who might feel especially vulnerable or are, in general, interested in taking a slower path.’s all game (psychological traits) and physical stature (eating well and working out). you catch the charts at ‘d’s place (no link) showing that (subject to sampling errors) the women never married 35-39 y. compared with younger dads, older fathers pass on significantly more random genetic mutations to their children. get to pure window shopping with no “sampling” you’d have to go back to the courting era, which was dead by the 1920s. goldload more comments (4 replies)[–]fromtheport 202 points203 points204 points 1 year ago (6 children)my wife is 13 years older than me. all the girls with boyfriends were flat-chested, and the girls who weren’t didn’t get nearly as much attention, if at all. when i was 19-20 i never even thought about ltr’s even though i was in already in one; but at that age i had all the time in world to find ‘the one,’ so i didn’t worry about it. think that many people of both sexes flirt with unrestricted behavior – that’s clear from the stats showing that half of all men and women who hook up are doing it to get a relationship., since moving from the nyc area i get to the gym 4-5 times a week (sometimes 6 if i am adding in cardio). all other things being equal, women are wired to find raw-anonymous-sex disgusting.“she referred to — and recoiled from — perelman’s physical attributes, not his character defects. a year ago i quit my high paying engineering job to work with her, and we ate now inseperable partners in business. the “i miss you” comments are not a daily thing, but when i truly feel like i miss her, i tell her.’m going to go against the grain here and recommend the carousel (moderate, carousel-lite version: n<3 rides per year/heavy emphasis on high-smv men/no more than 4 years of active operations) for charlotte. it is not a fear of commitment that keeps these men from settling down; it is a high sense of self-worth and the determination not to settle. there is no way you can discern that without dating them first. i liked his post on the mature man as well. this isn't our first time at the vagina rodeo, if you know what i mean. anyway, he has been attending open houses for prospective students at some schools. did better as i aged – older guys valued my looks more than younger guys did. say that you aren’t sexually excited by her, and i guarantee she can detect that from your body language. that means she was early 30s when big easy came out.@rollothere’s a reason, high school freshmen girls prefer senior boys over the boys in their class – the perception that they have a maturity and mastery of their element is attractive and arousing. east was the worst thing that ever happened to my roommate. i’m personally not sure if i could date a girl before sleeping with her. the breaking point was when he picked up a guitar at a party and performed a love ballad he had written for me.@olive:“i think the biggest mistake we make, sometimes, is attaching a moral code to the restricted/unrestricted paradigm. i think it’s very problematic that young people today go about 17 years between puberty and marriage. successfully requires skills, and the only way to gain them is by dating.’s view of ltrs seems exceptionally cut-throat and harsh to me and more suited to robots than to people with actual feelings. out in the fashion media industry isn’t an easy task, especially when you have zero connections. you’ll read about us online after an atf like agency raids our compound! “i like tyrion because he is empathetic, strong, and resilient”, no one could object. there are more or less equal numbers of both sexes. he says he is now more mature, more responsible, and has more value than when he was 28.”i considered converting to judaism for a while, but decided that i liked bacon far too much.@ted d“man, some days i think i might have sold myself short.”i learned most of the things i needed to know about my husband long before we shared our first kiss.”you said you’ve never met a *single* man who wanted to marry before his late 20s. my impression is that you’re still hooked onto the dopamine rush of seeing a new girl in the nude, and that’s not the hormone you want floating around in your brain.’d figure bringing out that side of her is something most restricted guys would want, but who knows maybe i’m wrong.@ susanfirst, women’s taste in men doesn’t necessarily change when they hit 30. i suspect this girl needs a more restricted guy, not someone who will drop her in favor of the “cheaper” sex that is readily available to you.

” but maybe that’s because i’m in love with my husband and a little delusional. men demand it all the time, why shouldn’t women?” a lot of these perceived players are simply playing the numbers game, hoping to find that special someone as quickly as possible so that they don’t have to endlessly date anymore. a large cohort of women don’t have anything to do with the carousel. that’s part of the reason i have little patience for the meme. based on the comments around here, you’d think that girls never get dumped. the only time i can ever remember this being used in popular culture was a vague reference to it by alec baldwin, as jack donaghy, saying that he is turning 50, which is like turning 32 for you (he said to tina fey as liz lemon). i’m an asshole and all, but i’m all about being a fair asshole. follow me for a sec…extroverted people like talking with others. researchers note that most people think it’s men, not women, who are “dragging their feet about marriage,” and they state “our investigation of male attitudes indicates that there is evidence to support this popular view. magical night is tomorrow 🙂(and if you poor anglo-saxon don’t know the customs, you should start learning already). was a fake number, but my mom was still pissed at me until she stopped to realize that there was no way that my dad would pick up a phone at some random house that was god only knows where. – “as someone else said, guys don’t have a medium between booty call and girlfriend.(i honestly don’t know whether my wife had more than one – me)susan had more relationship adventures in two weeks than i did in a lifetime…this is a really funny thread. i'm an old soul so i like to say that our ages average out to 37. for fun sounds very much like using other people for your entertainment. this is why teh wimminz is beyotches and can’t be trusted! i agree that many woman are of higher value at 33 than at 25 – they are more mature, more stable, have experience and everything. we are in a more delicate time, less time for each other because of the baby, and no way am i going to let things deteriorate. think there’s this cultural meme that we have to absolutely make sure we’ve found the best possible match before we consider marriage.@sai:” it’s probably what i deserve for hanging around the manosphere too long, because i become very… dark… after too much “women are only fit to belong to men and carry their offspring and this is the only way civilization can happen and now it’s broken and once more they’ll be crawling to us” talk and then i want to eat myself to death again”uh, that’s because it’s a toxic cesspool that radiates hatred and despair into the universe. took a couple weeks but i fell madly in love with him. raises concerns is the idea that you want to date for the feeling it gives you without, apparently, thinking about how he might be affected. regardless of your stance on this matter the last line is wisdom that’s pretty hard to ignore. i only skimmed the last 10 pages:Whether single women in their 30s represent the optimal strategy for males is another question, and one i have not attempted to answer. for some reason they seem to get a bad rap in this part of the internet, and i’m not sure why., female:male attempts 3:1 success 1:4 (by eye / anecdote / whatever)so that means men are 12 times ‘better’ at suicide than women(?“fat, ugly boor”“i’d spend every day dreading bedtime – blech! the meantime, things like exercise, conversation, emotional support, good food, fresh air, sleep, and laying off alcohol do help. we are in se asia for a holiday at the moment very much missing her now. i wouldn’t be surprised if contact was made in the future, but be prepared for more of the same game and then decide if you are comfortable being part of a harem. i date gorgeous teenagers to whom i would be invisible in south beach. and i know from my friends experiences (most are 24 – 26) who have been on paid subscription sites, most of the men in their age bracket are just looking for instant access to more women. has happened in recent decades is that the entertainment industry just gobbles more and more of the headlines and also the old la wasp “society” based in hancock park, pasadena & san marino has declined, so the upper class people who set the tone are all hollywood.@jthere is a sizable number of men who advocate anything from “deference” to women giving up their careers and autonomy to women giving the vote and drivers’ licenses. this something you see in a lot of men, or just a few that are at the ends of the bell curve of the ones you’ve dated? that makes it seem completely futile to think one can change ‘how it is,’ or chance being an exception. i have heard that the most common times to discuss the relationship are at the 4 and 6 month marks. by all means she should shop around but she should be careful to let go, gently, the merchandise she knows she doens’t want as soon as she knows and before extracting from him/them any resources under dubious pretenses.. pop culture) is, as far as i can tell, absolutely terrified of communicating to girls that their weight plays a big role in their smv.’s a common occurrence for me to meet a man that i am attracted to who obliterates that attraction with the things that he says. the arguments for shaming players in the smp remind me of the arguments for banning short-sellers during an asset price bubble. i’ll make sure to talk to a few new girls every day. gold[–]penis_in_my_hand 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children)bill and ted's excellent adventure comes to mind.’m a sci-fi fan and was by nature an optimist about humanity…slipping a bit nowadays. there is just no way i would a date a 27yo when teenagers are interested in me. men that are attractive to young women past 40 take care of themselves, age well, are successful, confident and wealthy. you have the advantage of already knowing women this age – they are in your social circle. so, this related to those girls, unless you are claiming they were totally celibate during their extended bad boy phase. if she isn’t gaining traction dating those men, it is also gets received by early-twenty girls (whom don’t have any problems receiving attention for older men) that they need not even concern themselves with men their age. i generally have a thing for older men, but they usually pass my limit around 47. and that is what draws and transfixes people, despite the most utterly mundane circumstances.”well, that explains where i got the idea that “sex equals auto-marriage” from. in years that may not be much, but in terms of relative status, social circles, etc. was an overly romantic/sentimental type, and he would tell me things that would make my skin crawl. told him he better gtfo of my house cause i paid the bills and i was cutting off the power and water next. i just wish more women wanted kids but i keep running into a lot who don’t. or if they are in relationships, or even dating, no one seems happy.! did you ever see him in “duel in the sun”? is the most healthy and loving relationship i have ever been in. implies that it is fine and well for a woman to go for the bad boy because she is immature today, but 10 years from now she can be totally happy with her provider husband because she “matured”. plus, i’m getting to that age where if i don’t do it soon, i’m in danger of becoming a ‘toxic bachelor. he has purchased various wives but money can’t buy love (or tingle). i’m not a prude, but i think it is important to wait it out for a little. i just think that – as i said as the beginning of this convo – that charlotte is open to something serious with the right person and will not be issuing warnings to men she’s attracted to by saying she just “wants to have fun. at the same time, i think it’s folly to suggest that a man’s smv peaks in his late 30s.“i simply observed that ltrs do not necessarily imply any intention to marry, and they never did. if a man said those things to my face irl, i might be compassionate regarding his frustrations and obvious pain, but the imagery sends up some red flags to me. i was in college and started working at this office, i described a female coworker to a female friend of mine as being “normal”. while you figure out the math, let me be clear that i’ve met several other women in their early- to mid-20s who also prefer to date from a much older pool for various reasons. it’s an opportunity to explore how compatible you are with another person. one fascinating thing is that the three of us have totally different memories of our childhoods, and one of my brothers essentially has amnesia and can’t remember any difficulties whatsoever. i grew up in la, went to college in missouri, moved back to la, went to grad school in the east.@olive:” i found myself talking way too much about bipolar several weeks ago, so i found a subreddit dedicated specifically to people with bipolar.”my point is that you can’t know really this until the fun and exciting part of the relationship ends, which normally happens once you are actually married.@olive but if you find yourself in a situation of dating regularly and you meet a really great guy (there’s no shame in okcupid by the way, i had a profile for awhile), there’s no reason to break it off at a certain point because you haven’t “dated around” enough. gold[–]porcelain_eternity 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (1 child)boyfriend and i are 11 years apart.@saywhaat“sorry, i didn’t realize it wasn’t possible for me to not get hurt after a guy suddenly stops responding to my texts after we’d been dating for a month, with no regard to my feelings”we’re talking about different things. i wouldn’t even care if it led to sex, but she seems a bit like a mystery to be solved. fact, i was advised that this was the case, at which point i quickly terminated the relationship.” it was an honest admission that i did eventually want to marry, but it seemed to take the pressure off the skittish while chasing off the real cads. is nothing inherently selfish about being young, having your own income, and spending money on stuff you like. i kept saying nice words to other people (since i wasn’t ready to do that for myself yet) every chance i got. much as pli works, i think it works primariy for low investment scenarios. sometimes women do meet a guy outside, but then he’s generally out of his element if she wants to participate in her sorority’s social activities. gold[–]fuggahmo_mofuhgga 31 points32 points33 points 1 year ago (6 children)we will always be 5. it’s much more useful to take stock of a guy’s reputation (if you can) than to judge him based on his age, height, address, car, etc. they would probably introduce one another to family at this point, perhaps visit one another’s hometowns, etc. i’m currently in college, living with my parents and in my free time i go to football games and study (and watch got of course :)). there’s a lot of knowing smiles/laughter among men my age when they see a young woman with an old man., while women do appreciate increased masculinity during ovulation, most reject hypermasculine males at all times, including ovulation. i’d like to think that men eventually grow out of their desire to date the stupid bleached blonde with the fake boobs and high pitched giggle. some reason, that story, and the fact that you did not have any friends that were below a 6, reminded me of this:I learned the truth at seventeen.” a better term might be “going steady,” something that young people have been doing since the 1950s without thought of marriage.”one problem is when the women (or men) decide to do this after they get married and have children.”so there is market demand for restricted sororities and fraternities. not really, his married and a father, but he just seems so impossibly young.[grandgeneralization]my guess is that highly empathetic people do not do that well in the “dating” world. i could go younger than that, five years seems fine but ten seems like a stretch..Permalinkembedsaveparentgive gold[–]icantbelieveyoutho 55 points56 points57 points 1 year ago (3 children)sounds like roommate was a lazy shit, and the girl didn't wanna live in a fucking tent. some believe that men are most attracted to women who seem maximally reproductive – over a period of time, beginning in their teens. gold[–]ahm_an_ahlehphahnt 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (4 children)oh my god that's the worst part.@rollofirst, they are indeed outliers, which doesn’t contradict the idea that most women don’t want it. he stayed with me recently while visiting hebrew college here and he recounted this story. i was in therapy, i remembered a scene from my childhood. these guys never dated a woman their own age or older. she may turn out to be a wildcat once you clear her filters for comfort and intimacy”zac, i was just going to say something similar. gold[–]quilladdiction 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)he's only about 9 years older, actually, but we met at a mutual friend's baby shower of all places. i took him out of mod and i hope we can engage in productive discussion. she didnt stay rent free, she had a job and was saving money, he had nothing going on. i don’t drink, but i don’t tell drinkers that they’re immoral for drinking. i like to think of people as walking storybooks, and for one brief moment in time two stories intersect and the possibilities that could have arisen from that moment are infinite.@j“well, even the “devout” want a free fcuk sometimes if it comes from someone they can feel morally superior to. that seems to be the case with the restricted guys here. if your family is fairly protective, especially your dad, it can be a pretty nerve-racking conversation. i simply and strongly believe that the only place sex should be expressed is within the confines of a committed relationship of some sort. they’re also becoming increasingly immune to the sexual power of women due to women making it a habit of showing almost every part of their body, and with the widespread use of porn guys are going to look at women who had to go through the alpha/bad boy phase in order to grow up, and are going to look at the church women and they’re going to think that dating and sex and relationships aren’t worth it. these men are saying these things, my husband is a man, therefore he must feel the same way. it was a little odd when we met, but we met online. men don’t usually do things unless they see a compelling reason. tricky as it can be at times to maintain your sanity in a relationship with someone older, if you love the guy as a person then it’s worth it. i have often recommended that women date 5 years up, and consider 10. that’s the whole reason for pair bonding – women’s attraction triggers shifted to reward dads instead of cads.”when, in reality, if you asked them for tangible proof of accomplishment, there is nothing to show for it. he got the ring and a watch back (and promptly throught them off a bridge). was meeting lot of girls and sleeping with lots of girls, but found it hard to find someone relationship worthy. in hitting your peak, askmen describes men’s physical changes after 30: according to a recent survey of adult sexual behavior, men over the age of 40 were two to three times more likely to report a lack of sexual interest compared to men under the age of 30. i wouldn’t sleep with someone i didn’t really like, or have sparks with. young, single women under 35 who are looking for potential husbands to have babies with and build a life together normally do not target men in their 50s for good reason. 🙂people love to pull on celebrity/high profile examples in these discussions but don’t seem to understand that celebs don’t live in the real world. said much the same thing at dalrock’s–that players need to be shamed along with sluts–and the religious party came after me as if i were the anti-christ. and so the knight of la mancha tilting at windmills ”but yeah, the heritage thing is a nice touch. i don’t see that happening much in my college. as a result, my dad was nearly 40 when i was born, and guess who has a rare genetic condition, with a 50% chance of passing it on to each kid she has? i would want their lives, but i respect that both were able to “make lemonade” when life gave them lemons. 😉actually, killing the men and capturing the women was standard operating procedure in the ancient world–and not so uncommon today either. board game girls are awesome, if i do say so myself. truthfully, i think jesus christ may have been the biggest mistake “christianity” ever made. god, when i ask someone if it's weird that he called me a cunt for not buying him a newly released game, i received the answer of "well, sometimes couples do things for each other for no reason.. if you want to engage in some degrading “exotification” of my magnificent, circumcised, steely, vanilla cock, well, knock yourself out. i have mixed feelings there, but i must admit my catholic upbringing probably adds to that one. its an insecurity i have that i haven't played the field, i don't know what i really want, and i'm just not sure she's the one because she's the first seriously serious relationship i've had. i can't say that it has affected my life much if at all. big deal when wife goes home for a while and suddenly the other girl who was kino’ing to every 10 secs has no counterbalance. but it’s great to know the people that he considers his second family, to interact with friends that have witnessed him grow over the years, and to learn more about him through them. i guess that’s the norm these days, as dysfunctional as it sounds to us. i can already picture him becoming more and more frustrated with her over time. all right, so no one knows what they really want, but we've got a job, if not a career, and some money saved up, because we already did that thing where you spend all your money and then have no money.@mariefrom a girl’s pov: in my mind, older men do not “compete” with younger men. she told me she was 24 (and wanted to get rid of him). quite like involuntary romantic ocd *before* you even date the person (give me my mind back you stupid ocd! what is it about them that causes men to act this way? goldload more comments (160 replies)use of this site constitutes acceptance of our user agreement and privacy policy.” the typical response is “where are getting this craziness coming from? you’re probably one of the prettiest colored women i have ever met”. even marriage does not prevent some people from leaving when they meet someone they like better. realize this will be a very unpopular opinion, but i don’t understand why people will put off getting married because of a pregnancy. for me, one of the hardest aspects of male relationship management is learning how to manufacture the appropriate timing.@jrd“i always shake my head when i see or hear a woman identify herself as “independent”.”if the median male marriage age is 28, then by definition 50% of men have done exactly this. quality men are in no rush – they understand that their mmv is increasing. hear a lot of women say what they want or deserve (! was a few years ago and was the first time that i ever accomplished this feat. the closer you try to push them together, the stronger the poles need to push away. my n is very low, so i personally think of myself on more on the restricted side.@jpon the other hand, self hugging one’s values is common to all universally reinforcing stimuli. would be 15 or 20 seconds they would never forget, let me tell you.’m going to continue to agree to disagree – i don’t think you can prohibit that.'m so glad to hear that you two are finally together and that he doesn't have to be alone anymore. the breaking point was when he picked up a guitar at a party and performed a love ballad he had written for me. one point, he stood over me and placed his hand on the small part of my back while whispering in my ear. example: “no drama”– those people tend to be major drama queens. if i could, i’d just shut that part of my brain off for 85% of my waking hours. don’t comment on looks much, but most people do get that gold diggers aren’t into much older men’s looks. my fossil hunting, mountain climbing, motorcycling, writing, ballroom dancing, tornado chasing is not by accident.“you can bring [insert boyfriend’s name] if you want, but he might get bored.@cooperbut the same messege that tells a woman to look past 3. and i didn’t say that “all men age and look like perelman”.@passer-by:no, she knows that current cooper is being profoundly diminished by this post and thread. was pretty clear to me that he didn’t know the first thing about me. i managed a blacksmithing shop, he's a blacksmith so i met him through work. i mean a friend and i drove the length of the uk in a day… ”hey just1z ! fair number of the old timers are in the 60+ crowd, some more vigorous than others. fuck, seriously, being ugly doesn’t give you a legitimate reason to be pissed at others for not liking you.”it has been the heart of my poor results, with girls who obviously didn’t want anything serious, *yet.(btw, sunlight and animal-based vitamin d are not the same. one guy had remembered me from the voting line at the polling place three weeks ago; another guy supposedly had a convo with me in the summer about vacations (? i know it does happen from time to time, but if my college (a small christian private university) was any indication, back in the early 2000s it wasn’t really happening. someone who obeys the ten commandments is superior to one who knowingly does not? i’ve always been amazed that people do not realize how rare it is that i spend time with them, because most people will spend time with just about anyone. think for college educated males it’s somewhere between 30 and 32. yeah, it will definitely help intj if he does the “talk to a girl every day” strategy, at least imho. of your guy friends are probably being nice by not saying it, or are actually nice guys (tm) and don’t have the ability to get any sex toy women. space bar allows paragraph formation which makes it way easier to read. but i was too proud to admit i should probably talk to someone. is what women think of their aging, not so physically attractive husbands. 😉did meet this girl during astronomy study group but turned out she had a boyfriend. there is some apex treatment here, but the reality is that the vast majority of over 30 (unmarried) men have had to compete – and must continue to do so in order to keep up pace with the diminishing ways in which he *might* provide the often whimsical “something else”.) and decides to put the world to rights by becoming a knight errant. years later, men and women are still from different planets »searchsubscribe now! gold[–]retroactive_moose 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (1 child)after seeing atheist stuff on the cringe subreddits i can't help but think about it as something similar to that or a circlejerk.. include a 24 year old model and brilliant psychology grad student, and many mid-30’s women… i think i’ll hold off until i find “the one” since my smv is high and will peak with an upcoming income boost. thing is, she sends them my way as well, and for my part it truly warms my heart to know she is not only thinking about me during the day, but doing so makes her want to be with me in that moment. our reality is not their reality and visa versa, therefore its is completely foolish for normal people to assume what works for eva mendez and alec baldwin will also work for them. know who i think is the best looking male on the entire show, bar none? interesting thing is that when i saw the photo of her perfect guy, one more time i realised i have no idea what females consider “attractive” in males. and the reward is something that’s supposed to come when he’s thirty. i’m a firm believe in “anything goes within a committed relationship” and a woman that conservative about her sexuality would be very difficult to make comfortable enough to do some of the stuff i’m interested in these days. if i’m single at 30 (god forbid) i’d expand the age group. this is just how nyc rolls, ime: single women face a perilous tightrope walk between being too rapid with the sexual escalation and failing to establish sexual compatibility early enough in the relationship. if you happen to still be all those things with your husband despite him not exerting any level of dominance whatsoever, then great for you., sick, sick (whatever it is)haha, sounds like something a victorian hack would do right after treating a woman’s “hysteria” with a vibrator. if you encourage prudery you’re going to get asexual women, as sexual puritanism re-enforces the disgust response., the vast majority of my stalkers on okcupid as 29 are 20-24. “shopping around” in the mmp, when done properly, is better likened to window shopping than to actual consumption. perhaps in years long gone there were just as many unrestricted folks as there are now, but social pressure kept their behavior in check.@esco, susan“every time i see a cartoon by that person, whoever it is, i think “bitchy girl who deserves to be alone. seems to be a lot of talk about “making it work,” but as far as i can tell, she is not really all that exceptional, except to the extent that she doesn’t put out., i was always more of an old testament kinda guy. we simply enjoy each other's company, without needing to delve into anything profound, and sex is always on the table, and it's always good. can be tough when you and your older partner can’t share childhood commonalities (dude’s never read a goosebumps book! i think the oldest man i would possibly consider dating right now would be 37-39, and that’s pushing it.’s awful when people do it to men or women. obviously mister “i’ll let 40,000 soldiers and their horses fuck you to regain our dad’s kingdom” is as despicable as the characters get. if i’m actually looking to date someone (which i am), i’m very, very quick to pull the cord on a girl who’s not going to work out (often after 1 date, maybe 2). women who want marriage and family aren’t looking at 32 year old slackers, they’re looking at men who have a promising future. this suggests more of a switch in attraction triggers, not that that will make the guys that were overlooked feel any better with sloppy thirtieths. and the women have felt that these men appreciate their femininity. i don’t know if it will ever come to fruition, but i can’t help but be amused that at some point i came to the conclusion that this is hopeless, and i just want to bail. i think that men like to problem solve for other people; they think that they are most helpful when they are fixing things for others.”mutual forgiveness of imperfection, accepting that life isn’t full of shits, giggles and butterflies. and your dad having a stroke early too – that must have been so very difficult. however, she’s also quite sexually conservative, and not the best flirter (too timid, much more take than give, and i like an equal give and take of teasing and barbs). thing i’ve seen psychologists express concern about is that people don’t have a serious relationship at all until their late 20s, and then they marry that person. i guess he should be ready to put out for cigstache, but i assume he’s not saying that. i fully accept that for all my belief in myself and my opinions, i may be completely full of shit. she was talking about him being fat and ugly, specifically about how his $ balanced out his physical unattractiveness. gold[–]hawkens85 152 points153 points154 points 1 year ago (4 children)this is such an 80s story i wanna throw up in excitement. many of them, especially the ltr-oriented, are likely to interpret your initial interest as a positve sign for their own suit only to find you pull back later when you perceive them as getting “too serious. i hated dating, i had a lot of bad experiences, and i would be totally fine if i never had to go back into the nyc shark-infested waters., it is an important skill for a girl to have when she moves to the city that she desperately wants to live in. love to pull on celebrity/high profile examples in these discussions but don’t seem to understand that celebs don’t live in the real world. whether it is because she is “overly” vulnerable, protecting herself from past mistakes, or zach did not create enough comfort, or she is simply prudish, she is most likely protecting herself.: ea & mmugh, the whole thing is just dysfunction heaped on top of dysfunction. but i bet i could have managed a decade, perhaps even a little more. really hot 16 year olds aren’t throwing themselves at me anymore. he was always complaining that the women in west la were too heavy (as compared with the model thin women in manhattan, i guess). we have a shared goal to create something lasting with our business, which ends up just like a child to us. if deti’s point is that fat ugly old men deserve sex too, then i guess he should be ready to put out for cigstache, but i assume he’s not saying that. in my case, all i wanted was a miracle and i didn’t care how it happened. starts showing me constellations, then leans over and kisses me. and lots of times it only lifts the spirits of the one party. broke down crying in front of my ra a few times, pretty much told me to get lost.”if a woman can’t get the attention of men 3. chemistry is meeting someone you’re compatible with at the same emotional stage.., a parallel dating strategy when you consider multiple candidates at once, rather than one at a time.)the thing with prudish girls and asexual girls and girls who want nothing but to never see you again is that they’re all exactly the same. but i've been watching new girl and compiled a list of dos and don'ts from jess's experience dating the sophisticated dermot mulroney as fancypants, who's a whopping twelve years older. he’s also the one who broke into my apartment to leave a written apology while i was sleeping after we’d argued. a black man saying to me, you are a pretty white girl. study published in nature finds that the age at which a father sires children determines how many mutations those offspring inherit.: games: mmos provided me an outlet to develop those cutthroat alpha social skills that i would otherwise have had no access to growing up. there's already enough pressure when it comes to dating, why add more stress and think about the age thing if you really like this dude? he retired when i was 6, so he was around quite a bit and able to take me on vacations when i was younger. maybe just one shot of whiskey instead of seven of vodka. that was the last time i took wife *and baby* to a firm marketing event. i also say things like “can’t wait to have you all to myself this weekend” when we have a trip planned or something.@zach“also never really understood the female obsession with making out. which means guys who get back to you will be doing it for both good and sometimes bad reasons. gold[–]ahydell 28 points29 points30 points 1 year ago (3 children)i don't know, i come across as young sometimes, i'm quite youthful i think, or at least i was then, i've been through a lot in the last couple of years and i've aged quickly. i don’t blame women for their “sexual nature”, but i do hold them responsible for not taking care with it for themselves, as i do for men.“not unlike the subject of that article, james hooker, also 41, not famous, and hooked up (smart) with an 18 year old girl who was hot for him, obviously not a ‘gold digger’ and now loves him to death. it’s a part of my serious lack of social skills.: “it *should* be clear from my commentary that i want everyone to be more restricted, in behavior, attitude, and desire.” while women may enjoy or benefit from talk therapy more than men, much depression will not be alleviated by listening alone.’m really, really not trying to sound preachy, don’t get me wrong but in the context of relationships being fit is so incredibly important for both men and women, such that it’s worth sacrificing much for – if the primal urges are lacking, there’s nothing for it to stand on. we socialized with him a few times and my wife liked him but she said very early “if he’s unmarried at that age, there’s something wrong with him.. “pretty”, insofar that she seems feminine enough, and she’s cute, and probably the type that a lot of college guys today would love to find but can’t. other than that one time as a child, i never heard this rule of thumb ever communicated outside or hus/manosphere. i already said she sounds endearing to me, and the more we talk the more i find myself thinking that i would take all the time necessary to get into this woman’s world.“as for loved ones, i’m probably closer to him than any of his family. playing for god’s team at ucla didn’t magically transform him into a good three point shooter. aunt and her (late) ex had a gap of something like 9 years. he’s going to talk to all those other girls because guys think they have to play this game to get girls like you’s interest. i think many men like you have little interest in very young women. the end i mellowed out and started dating some nice girls who were both into me and pleasant to be around. i’m not saying men are entitled to hot women when they are classically physically unattractive.) you go nut-sowe are currently at peej-state-3if it is just a matter of meds (i do not mean this unkindly), why don’t you take them? is protecting herself emotionally, which is an important survival skill for a woman in nyc! goldload more comments (20 replies)[–]blondekay 40 points41 points42 points 1 year ago (14 children)my ex was 11 years older than me (me being 19, him being 30). certainly the 1/2+7 rule for me would mean women that my brain tells me are just too young and we would have close to nothing in common. just asking you to not tar all of us with the same brush.. stay in the gym (if you aren’t hitting it hard already).@susan:“obviously, you are the exact opposite of zach, as conversation and compatibility appears not to interest you. most of the girls are with guys who are much older than their male classmates.  they tend to wonder why such a “great catch” is still on the market.) yet is less fire-n-brimstone (and definitely much more erudite) than many –i’d say most– branches of christianity. i live in one of nyc’s most fun areas in an adorable apartment that i pay for myself (i fully support myself) and most of my friends are a few years older from work, etc. is fun to think about, but if i chalked up my entire relationship to fate, i’d have to devalue the challenge of two years of long distance, the semester abroad with limited contact, the family controversy from last year, and my manic episode/subsequent hospitalization and grad school dropout. a 37 year old bachelor, i have no trouble getting dates with younger women, and am becoming very choosy about who i date. need to always feel they have the young woman in their life. i told him that i was nearly 40 and it didn't make a difference, but he kept saying we were a generation apart and he couldn't deal. the main difference of course is that unlike a car or even a house, you’re only supposed to get one husband.  the downsides to dating an older guy there are some tradeoffs in dating a guy quite a bit older than yourself: i. husband (like hope’s) told me stop reading a certain manosphere blog because of the nasty and vile things said there. am i alone in that or did it sound that way to anyone else? he likes the acreage way more than living in town. the husband of whom we dream at twenty is not at all the type of man who attracts us at thirty. there is nothing inherently wrong about getting busy on the first date, imo. gold[–]minimus_ 36 points37 points38 points 1 year ago* (1 child)i love this sort of comment after the first comment in the thread. because society valued female virginity, it sought to punish those who would devalve women by taking their virginity outside of marriage and who would deprived honest men of virgin wives. we are going to our friends farm up north to help clear leaves and get the shed ready for winter. suspect that it is a pretty male specific outlook that is required to appreciate it.” the men i regard as alpha are much different than many of the definitions i’ve seen. and if that is the truth, why should i try so hard to please them? did sting for a day or two but i bucked up and congratulated myself for dodging a bullet. you’ll need to be extra vigilant to filter out cads who have no intentions of committing to anyone, but you’ll also find this to be a group of men who are more financially secure, socially adept, well-rounded intellectually and emotionally stable. i never see a smouldering girl my age with a 50 year old. all other things being equal, given equal time and effort training, yes, the younger guys would win, but the fact is, they don’t put in the effort to do so, so it’s kind of a moot point. now i look in the mirror and see something out of a lovecraft story staring back at me.: “it is nice to meet you, jrd”it’s nice to meet you. if after ten minutes or so, it hasn’t gone anywhere else, it’s just kind of a big tease. i think that is why i am sometimes initially attracted to the players, because they know how to make girls feel at-ease pretty quick, but i just don’t deal with their bullshit and harems of women (or “binders of women”) so it ends fast. and until we do –which i believe only comes after this life– the only superiority we can practice is a false one. it’s not actually anybody’s business, but i can tell you that i’ve never dated anyone because of money. today at a shawarma joint: four women in their early twenties talking about men. it possible that you account of what was typical for a girl in the late 70′s was not as common as you think it is/was? i remember with my first child that i couldn’t get much sleep for first two or three months. this alone is a reason why i refuse to go back into the dating pool with guys my own age. as long as it isn’t 100% intentional, i suppose we men are supposed to be ok with it… good lord i literally laughed out loud when i saw ”+1. (i tend to do that on my phone rather than setting a bookmark).@escoffierthe preferred age differences for men and women are consistent throughout the world, according to buss’ study of 37 countries. so, to be honest, i just don’t see much of this “i can’t get involved in college because i’ll be moving away in 4 years” stuff you deal with regularly. – add me to the guys on zach’s girl’s side.@ hope: nyc may have early sex as a common thing, but it doesn’t mean that in such a marketplace she can’t set herself apart with a different strategy. gold[–]hematospermia-man 229 points230 points231 points 1 year ago (58 children)i'm trying imagine how great it would feel to suddenly have someone(other than family) that loves me after being alone for so many(50ish? am the only one of my friends that are remotely interested in men over 35. plus i had about 25 rabbits in his barn before i moved in. it was quite strange to read all these avowedly devout people get angry at me for saying that the player lifestyle is immoral. yeah, we might also have emotional baggage, but the more time we've had to date around, the more we know what we like and (hopefully) how to avoid making the same mistakes we made previously. yet, even the women who join the carousel because they feel that is what they need to do–bring the sex up front–they are not happy at all., at least for the time being, the ‘sphere is going to continue to be marginalized and so, therefore, you are going to get a somewhat poor signal-to-noise ratio. what is it about them that causes men to act this way? my personal view of a ltr includes a much deeper level of personal commitment, than “until i feel like stopping for any reason”. manosphere is so toxic that my husband asked me specifically to stop reading it in the first year that we were togetherhope, do you know the scene in the godfather where kay and michael are leaving the movie theater and kay asks michael if he would like her better if she were a nun? it was made in 1995 and sandra bullock was a ticket collector engaged to an attorney. it’s rather like music: it’s not something you just go to school for four years and master. that’s what saved my husband, knowing his mother cared very much. because society valued female virginity, it sought to punish those who would devalve women by taking their virginity outside of marriage and who would deprived honest men of virgin wives.” “i don’t know, why don’t you ask lok-ious-the-magnificent.“difficulties in life make us stronger and wisers, pampered people that got it easy never achieve anything of worth. walking up the aisle with anything but “head over heels” radiating from every pore is madness. i’m not so sure that the world is on the edge of a collapse as cappy is, but no matter what we think of that, his advice about staqying positive and still doing for oneself were right on. is no way that the average 75 year old is more appealing than the average 15 year old. he just might come around and apologize for bailing due to his big power-point presentation to even busier businesspeople. even at 23, i’m already done with putting forth effort to pursue an girl that isn’t ready to, *or “have the time for,” “something serious. another post, i think it was ramble who noted how women’s tastes tend to change as they get older, so a type of man who might not have interested her at 20 looks pretty good at 30. lucky for my wife she caught me before i had any clue about my mmv. me, it seems like a fine line between being strung along by a unrestricted girl, and what could be par for course to a restricted one. i spent more time in the gym exercising and drinking (i was known for doing “work” and drinking wine at the same time, classy eh? many people disagree, but i actually do think that having a child bonds a couple together even more firmly.@intjmaybe i should be flattered that you mistook me for rollo. might have done it on accident, zested up the basics for fun. but that’s because the ‘burgh does indeed have a large number of really good schools.”i’m not sure that this parental pressure thing works. gold[–]ravel77 45 points46 points47 points 1 year ago (9 children)a weird kid in my class, had parents with a 20 year age gap. but hey, that might actually turn out to be a very interesting relationship. they have two, both very young, and my uncle probably won’t be around much longer. you’re a good guy for reaching out to him. the thing is, they tend to have something in common…namely, liking men and their unique personality attributes, being nurturing, etc. i don’t think women have any idea that many men in their 30s would like to settle down – as you say, all the media attention is on aging women not being able to find mates. i suppose this might be due to the weirdness of the east bay. i don’t blame you for being completely turned off, it sounds like she is not in touch with her own sexuality at all. i’m the kind of girl who looks up to independent women, and i tend to put my girlfriends before dating.“i’m wondering if she got “sloppy seconds” somehow mixed up with “second base””crap, i hadn’t thought of that.@ ted:i don’t have the time or patience to help someone crawl out of a very deep sexual repression of self. the 22 year old senior who sees himself as too cool for school gets a shock when he arrives in the big city.*it’s perelman’s narcissistic selfishness that makes him repugnant. we started exchanging emails, and almost eighteen years later, we've been married almost sixteen years. second of all, it is easy to meet people in nyc, but that’s doubly true for women. i started working full-time, in an actual interesting job, and was in a supervisory capacity on important projects…and once i had a decent real-life social network…my video gaming and online life dropped dramatically. i spent the better part of my late teens to early 20’s trying to figure out how to do it, and i finally concluded that it is just in my nature to be an arrogant asshole, and set out to do what i could to minimize the collateral damage. do you have any tips for dating someone older than you? never made out with a guy who didn’t already tell me he was falling for me, which is why my kiss n is single digit. i’m quite romantic but am also an introvert and shy in big groups., yeah, sex discrimination in the workplace means that it’s harder for women to be economically independent than men, which then leads to a status quo whereby men– as a group– earn significantly more than women. honestly, he may have liked the flirting, but wanted nothing more., i’d like to add, you may have thought is was all “just for fun”, but i’m willing to bet that for him, he was hoping for one of two things:2. you could start with google, wikipedia and the news media. but when it comes to jackies, like highlander, there can only be one!, j:she wasn’t talking about perelman being an asshole, or even about his being undesirable as a man because of an unattractive personality or distasteful behavior. you are not engaged, nor have you discussed becoming engaged. we met through a mutual friend who was playing for the other team and 30 years old. they’re just not on the same wavelength, and sometimes that happens. i’d much rather marry for love, to a good man that i am genuinely attracted to, and that is what i did. my second boyfriend was bright and hot but determined to have an acting career in la.“passerby, having still been at the bottom of the pile at 19 and 20, go easy on her. susan has personally made compliments to a lot of male commenters here. you may have to wait a couple of years for your smv to increase. i was just married when i started and he was (and remains) a bachelor. i wish all the ladies of hus could get together for tea or something and just recount stories to one another.. she rode the alpha cock carousel for 12 years and now that she’s about to become a crone she wants a guy with a good job to marry her because none of the guys she really wants will have her. but those women who do like the older guys with authority seem to really really like them. i’m shooting for a more restricted society across the board. my father would have loved if i had played football and gone after women. the average 50 year old just doesn’t have what it takes to keep that attraction, no matter how many times a week he lifts weights, lol.

I m dating a man 10 years older than me

it was quite strange to read all these avowedly devout people get angry at me for saying that the player lifestyle is immoral. it takes time to blossom, and for the people in the relationship to realize that they see this person becoming a part of their life and putting more effort into the relationship. they will notice, as long as it’s visible to them. to be fair though, their double standards are really just a reaction to feminist double standards. khal is the total alpha who isn’t used to being as cunning (as opposed to ruthless) and so once he stops being true to his alpha nature he fucks up way too much and dies because of it.) it gets far easier to ignore the unrestricted crowd when you don’t have to hear them every night.@bastiat bloggeri’m going to go against the grain here and recommend the carousel (moderate, carousel-lite version: n<3 rides per year/heavy emphasis on high-smv men/no more than 4 years of active operations) for charlotte.’t the whole point of dating/ltr/marriage whatever to find some kind of joy in another and feel excited at least some of the time? when i was 18 and a man in his 30s hit on me, i couldn’t understand why that old man thought i would be interested in him. would never want a man to marry me because we’d been in an ltr together. 😉i really don’t want to enumerate what’s wrong with the older holly, adding insult to already grievous injury, but since you brought up her becoming heavier with age. it makes sense, as many young people are in these programs just at the time when they’re thinking about marriage. i’d be delighted if women would throw away their checklists and view the whole mating process with a fresh look – one that takes in the realities of the smp. older the guys you are looking at, the more the chance than #1 will happen. i’ll take at face value what you all say that you are not at all attracted to men 15 to 20 years older (although part of me wonders if this is one of those cases where we should watch they do rather than listen to what they say). instead, i backed away gently put a stop to someting that could have damaged both our lives. – “an ltr is simply an agreement between two people that they are enjoying each other’s company so much that they want to take the relationship to the next level and see how things go when they’re more serious.” you know how it goes: the more manic you are, the more you don’t need to sleep, and the more manic you become. of you seem to think i will get guys to take me on dates for a free meal or two, and ditch then when they start liking me.’m going to sue you for intentional infliction of emotional distress. you had some cute, older football player pining for you when you were in junior high and you are saying that you did not get attention until college?, this is mostly with white men, but if hip hop videos are to be used as a metric, it would seem that black men are also quite open to the idea of asian women as being beautiful. we've adjusted to the age difference, but sometimes i have to remind him that we're equal, he's not in charge just because he's older. the recession did a number on the financial long-term thinking of our generation….>> ” my point was that after a longer time (a year or more), guys seem to feel more obligated to continue a relationship if they are no longer really into it. for the age thing, you said yourself he probably thought you were older and in your conversations, whether you did it with intent or not, you probably communicated certain things that may indicate restricted, ltr-orientation, etc. and no relationship is ever going to last if the woman does not have this experience. had just broken up with my so, and this group of 20-something guys acted like, well, high schoolers, when they saw me noticing this girl. i’m certainly not thinking in my head, “oh you are just boyfriend number one of x amount,” if i really do like them, of course i would fantasize a bit about our future. i don’t have the links now but this preference is reflected in the mean marital ages of both sexes. why as a prudish woman who actually wants a sexual relationship a woman must find ways to segregate herself from the other two categories without moving into the slut category. it's not like a guy who's five years older than you is going to be taking you out for the denny's early bird special ever day before promptly going to bed, but odds are those 5 a.”in hindsight, i think she was right, not that there is anything truly “wrong” with him but that he had certain traits that made him unattractive for marriage. yes, each culture and society is governed by its own morals, but across all cultures there are three main ethics underpinning these moral domains:1. charlotte, correct me if i’m wrong, but between the lines i hear you saying that you are totally open to something real with the right person, not looking to ensure that no guy falls for you. however, he will not magically appear on your 23rd b’day. so, it could she is projecting the term onto him, as she may know someone he’s been with, or perhap that she knows she’s dealing with a guy who’s slept with a few girls. 🙄also never really understood the female obsession with making out.), i would assume that you have a player vibe that makes her uncomfortable. it’s not as if we started working together, he immediately started crushing and then i spun a web of intrigue. he was well out of college and had a steady, professional job and since she was not going to college and did not have a “real” job (part time work), she basically ended up “playing housewife” (her words, not mine)…well, she loved it. i wasn’t when i met my husband, so i knew how to be sensual/sexy/seductive, but if a girl is not experienced — which some guys say they want — then how should she know?? smhconcerning the original topic… well, depending on the man i guess it wouldn’t hurt to try.@jp“i recall that he was distinctly displeased with the female selection on the east coast because he complained about it. but they clearly must exist in great numbers, otherwise the median would be way higher.”that was around the time he filmed himself having a threesome with a 16-year-old girl. when i found out it weirded me out a little. if the guy isn’t comfortably in saying he’d like to marry you *one day* then most than likely he’s just sleeping with you for sex.” one was engaged and cheated on her fiance, then begged him to take her back, trying to say that the cheating was a “growing experience. men are more likely to self-medicate with drugs and alcohol or to act out in socially unacceptable ways instead of seeking treatment.”in general, unlike dating, you forgive the person the sin of being human and having needs.“so, she’s helping future cooper so that the youthful women know that he’s a good catch.(raises hand) some of us do value this little thing called “western civilization”. you’re probably one of the prettiest colored women i have ever met”. he was extremely prone to jealousy – our whole relationship was high drama. no one comes out right of the gate and just effortlessly picks up a skill and becomes talented in a matter of weeks or months – and fwiw, even with my tested ~145 iq i wasn’t able to take many shortcuts. but i doubt i will find ‘the right person’ at this point in my life…but who knows. she sounds like someone who will want to have sex using a sheet with a hole in it (curb your enthusiasm). i don't know if we'll get back together, but i'm curious as to how you remind your so that he's not in charge. not going out one-on-one with a someone i barely know and making small talk!: beach people, i was one for a while, then i ran away from it, now i want to be one again. doesn’t matter how young you look shit still happens. you are over-reacting and possibly imputing the motives of other women in your life to susan. i swear more often than not it seems like i magically appear in the parking lot outside my office every morning, because i drive on autopilot and spend the drive listening to talk radio, or picking through the tangle of thoughts rolling around my noggin. – so it would be the: umamimp (pronounced you-ma’am-imp) not catchy but it could work.”i’m starting to become more convinced that i am a transsexual lesbian. going on a 4th date tomorrow night with a girl who works in equity research at a bulge bracket bank. my point is that if wishes were horses, beggars would ride. never got to the interesting job stage or actual real-life social network phase of life, so i spend much of my time stressed about a career in which i have no interest or generally being bored out of my skull. i mean, what character on shows do you think should get dumped for their weight?:but, after a month (and no sex), the two of you were not so emotionally attached such that your feelings would (or should) impact his decision whether or not to continue the relationship. the nationwide trauma that followed this incident and the media coverage it received (in contrast to the relative indifference shown to the other cases) led the federal government to take legal action, issuing the sati commission (prevention) act a year later. i didn’t feel very compatible with any of them, but i enjoyed myself. that no one would ever want me, and that i would never get married. something about suggesting that girls “date-up” in age that just comes off, to me, as just promoting hypergamy. gold[–]missladyface 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)i'm 24, he is 33. but susan, you of all people should know that i suck at delivery, and in this case it was far easier to find a woman that was comfortable with my inner sickly-sweet emo than to figure out how to change it. the women who want that edge of danger and risk are unlikely to be good matches for ltrs and the women who are good matches are unlikely to appreciate asshole game. “dorks” = just want to do her homework (would do her coding if they could) for her and carry her books to classyou know it’s true. to me it’s not a discussion of character, and i know that goes against some of what susan preaches but so be it. i’m not going to discount how important they are to men, and my husband is a man. so, when you ask why guys might be bothered by this “maturation”, ask the dumb beach bimbo with bigguns why she might resent being nothing but a cum dumpster. the more i read in the ‘sphere, the more i appreciate dh and my marriage. i remember with my first child that i couldn’t get much sleep for first two or three months. his reaction to that conversation was really alarming, considering we were discussing pedophilia. as women go out into the working world, they do find a more diverse set of approaches to meeting and dating men, with better odds:1.’m starting to think that “the fates” love playing cruel, dating related jokes on me. after he moved back from the peace corp, and before he could get a place of his own, he stayed with his parents for a few months.”it’s the manner of the presentation that seems immature/weird, not necessarily the restrictedness being conveyed. in the last barsetshire novel, a girl (forget her name) and her mother try to entrap johnny eames but just barely fail. i’d rather give myself a mental illness than to put so much effort into “living in harmony” with my emotions.’ve heard male commenters, particularly those seeking involvements with younger women, at roissy and elsewhere in the ‘sphere quote this maxim seriously. couple can decide that the relationship is going well and progressing in a way that makes them both feel ready to stop seeing other people and give everything they’ve got to what’s blossoming between them. as a very restricted person, i’m constantly shocked at how quickly some people feel comfortable getting naked with someone new. there is no way you can discern that without dating them first., my take on zach’s post was that she just wasn’t that into/attracted to him. so much of your conversation reads (to me) like how you evaluate them and what you’re getting out of the deal., worse, a supplicator who thinks writing trite anti-male cartoons in which the bitchy girl always humiliates the idiot male will get him laid. really really really hate superiority and arrogance and try to stamp out its roots in myself before it can try to bloom. can find elements of each of these ethics in various cultures across the world.@ramblethe latter, and i’m afraid many men indulge this fantasy. cooper, waiting should be the furthest thing from your mind. paternal great grandparents, however, got married when she was about 12 (not a typo) and he was about 26 or so. i automatically assume they’d think “of course she can’t get a date”. that is why i think i would do well with someone who is a bit more “cuddly” than me to balance it out.“gregory peck attended our church (he actually went to mass every day. once he started approaching 50 he had a huge mid life crisis and left her for a girl 13 years younger than him. maybe these women find him “ugly sexy” because of his outsized and dominant personality. recently to a woman describe relationship woes with a man ten years older than she is, i noticed her friends were quick to say, “that’s why he’s 32 and single.’m simply reminding you that women want to be the ones guys mature into liking.”i think that the bond, presuming that there *is* one, stabilizes the emotions somewhat, keeping things on a more even keel for both parties. among the 50 year olds are some attractive looking marreid milf types; yes, you can see they are older, but they keep themselves in shape. you can stop worrying about whether or not it looks weird because anyone who has lived in nyc long enough knows it’s almost necessary. people may be the same age and one gets run over by a bus, shot in a burglary or drop dead from an aneurism. wife is convinced that my next door neighbor when i was really young is gay (still married to his wife, however)..there is an alternative…” but it does make an argument for sticking around. and that young men are right to slum-it-up in their twenties playing video-games, then wreck havoc on the smp when they get their turn to. here, mark manson used deception to play erika awakening, which is totally not cool (though erika awakening does bear some responsibility for who she chose).:“just as it’s delusional to assume that all men age into clooney, it’s just as unfair to assume that all men age and look like perlman. now, i assure you that i am not “nature’s greatest miracle” like tom, and i was much better looking and in better shape in my twenties and thirties than i was in my forties after i had to stop playing basketball 2 or 3 times a week. she has also become a very touchy/feely person since we got together., well, i would say more about this, but i know that susan is tired of this particaulr hobby horse, so, i will leave it at that. she is 8 years my junior, so i think i did pretty good. ”it depends on what is meant by depression–feeling low emotionally or full blown bio-chemical clinincal depression. i am on the side of good character making a person become truly beautiful but it’s a minority view among both women and men! said that i know of men who tried with a shotgun and…failed(! i tell people “you will get mental health care” all the time, but then again they want to get disability benefits so they actually listen to me.. i like that we have movies that depict the horrors of drug use and criminal activity, but i do not want those things to actually happen in real life). in a smaller city or town, online dating makes so much sense, even at a younger age. that some scenarios are highly unlikely to progress past a certain point given the deal breaker (ie religion).: i think i just gained a massive amount of respect for you…. he starts out as a pussy but gradually gains some courage and self esteem. he was a crazed toddler and an extremely disorganized schoolboy., when you do this to somebody, you feel a lifetime of guilt. is a great example of a woman who is restricted/not promiscuous, and focused on studying rather than relationships in college. the woman who truly bonds to you is going to be a much better lover over the long-term. more comments (8 replies)[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 1 year ago (0 children)she's my ex girlfriend's aunt. when i was in my 30s……actually my mid-thirties were all over the map. the restricteds are trying to *stop* the unrestricted from doing things; things they believe are evil/wrong and must be punished/stopped. i mean, by definition, half of all girls, in any population, are going to be below average in the looks dept. you dating an older fellow or thinking about dipping your toes into that more mature water? to think of it, being the son of the superintendent was an asset to my dating experiences in high school.’m not wedded to a particular age – that’s up to women to decide. in other words, being the same fat, ugly, sweaty gross guy he was when he was married gives these women a good reason to reneg on an essential element of the marital compact.. if you’ll excuse the extremely unfortunate pun, weight is such a huge chunk of smv that it’s very difficult to overlook. he acts and looks more like he's 30 so it's not really too weird. – “i don’t find it useful to wring my hands, and i certainly don’t find it productive to complain about the nature of female sexuality. she’s throwing gasoline on that fire by breaking bad on a guy like ron perelman because he’s unattractive. about the only to consider would be the greater possibility of defects with the older dad. lipo, breast implants, even eye work before the age of 40.@ passer_by:“i have experienced this many times, in reverse. am not talking about a couple that feels like they need to lose weight after the holidays and decide to join a gym together, but where a man “demands” that she not gross him out. only reason he got me to go out on a date with him was because he is a very good portrait artist and i jokingly asked him to draw a selfie i took. the lazy person becomes the person who is able to calm others down and get them to rest. is not odd for someone to say it when you’ve been kept apart by circumstance longer than usual.'t complain about turning "halfway to 50" when he's "one year til 30". – “he was the most emo guy i’ve ever known, but to be honest, that was part of his appeal., because once you make a lifelong commitment, you exit the market and stop shopping. it is funny, some of our friends and relatives couldn’t tell that the service was any different from the traditional wedding service, and so they date our anniversary from the blessing ceremony, not the civil service. to find out why, i asked a straight twentysomething male friend, who pointed out that younger guys are simply intimidated..0k · 4906 comments [serious] doctors of reddit, what is your "how the hell are you alive right now? you don’t even allow the small talk with the woman at work. it may be unkind, even callous, but that is not the point. i have known quite a few immigrants who only had mild accents but still got the ordering wrong from time to time.@charlotte“isn’t the whole point of dating/ltr/marriage whatever to find some kind of joy in another and feel excited at least some of the time? used to the fact that he’s lived a whole life before you met.@escoffiermy point is that morality is not genetically determined, as we can see by its variation across cultures and time.”i did an experiment about a month ago just to see. however i had just gotten out of a nasty divorce and i wanted to have kids with my next partner. they got divorced after a while, and my dad married this young brazilian woman who was in her 20's. me, if it was a big church wedding, see if you can have closest friends and family only, maybe on a weekday if nothing else is available. in other words, the women like them better if they expect the women to be somewhat submissive. it is where i get to actually engage my emotions and feel ok about it.“and, surely, you must understand that it’s weird that she thinks he would brag to his friends (who she barely knows) about taking her top off. plus, you are changing the argument here a bit (and the other guys are falling for it). look everywhere, find a job, and go there with your mate. i didn’t feel like putting all that into words, but you did it marvelously! if i have to watch the world crumble around me, i want to do it with like minded people.,yeah, that is one side of the mansphere that seems a bit whacky to me(like those desktop pua’s that pick-up 9’s and10’s every night without leaving their chairs).: it is nice to meet you, jrd, and i hope you will stick around! thought you were getting hit on by men when you were babysitting and that you never hurt for attention and that not one girl in your sorority was below a 6. chances are, if you were a freshwoman dating a junior or senior, you are probably more into the ‘touch of grey’ than you think. many guys in their early 20s are not ready, but some clearly are – intj and cooper are two great examples. gold[–]wisewillow 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (2 children)why didn't you save us the time and say what it was? but, if i’m introducing someone to my family, i’m past the “lets see how this works” stage and already on the “i think we should be thinking longer term here” phase. about that skinny emo nathan hardin– his arms were like pencils?@ji hadn’t even read that james hooker story, but now that i have i’m surprised rollo held this up as an example of a good match with an age difference. if i end up über-crazy for kids/legacy i’m either adopting or donating eggs (don’t care about the money any more). such people generate their own validation internally rather than relying on external validation for their self-esteem. and i feel pretty confident that many of the other male regulars are coming from the same angle. hussars, from russian movie about evil poles oppressing noble russians (with march of cambreadth). one is the “don’t sleep with him until you’re dating”. zach hasn’t built up the requisite level of comfort with her, and he’s kind of putting her through the unrestricted paces, which she is reluctantly complying with. men go to where the women are (see the lines for any club), so if the women they want are online, they will go there. seem to have taken something you wrote to suggest that every person in a non-marital ltr is in constant “trade up at the first opportunity” mode. and i've added a couple of my own tips for good measure, since i am the younger woman and all.@susan:“our mother was mia, probably in bed with depression. a weird thing to say in pretty much any social interaction.“can you think of any reason you might end a ltr instead of marrying that person? i hate not being able to concentrate on something important because i’m limerant. i will tell you: the ltr-oriented guys would move on and the players would say “ooh, perfect!@susan“why am i having to explain the basic risks and benefits of dating?”dear, my only chance for getting into heaven at this point is if god has a great sense of humor. gold[–]thecoffeetoy 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (1 child)easily one of my favorites in the thread. i knew my current wife for over two months before we started “dating” (we never really dated but started becoming a couple sounds stupid…) and i still didn’t feel comfortable taking any clothes off with her for another month. there were 40 applicants in attendance, and the weekend began with everyone introducing themselves. truth be told, i rely on the fact that she often chats with my kids by text or phone to know how things are going with her. the age difference was never apparent, we were very comfortable and didn't seem to have such an age gap. maybe not of the “choke me” variety, but give her some time. don’t want to be in a situation where you have to compete with your spouse in terms of career/monetary success. best friend’s family was mostly in san marino – i love the nostalgic feel in pasadena and that area. even if you are not harming others or violating someone else’s rights, you should not degrade yourself, because it dishonors you, your creator, and the sacred order of the universe. the most desirable alphas have a bad case of oneitis.) the true self is more concerned with pursuing greatness for its own sake rather than pursuing images of greatness primarily to ensure others are inferior. there is that i’m looking for a woman interested in marriage…. he once told me that he worries that is so lame – winding up with your high school girlfriend. treat the relationship the same as you would with a guy your own age. at this point, she sounds about as fun as a wet mop. that’s just more disposable income, freetime and a zero percent chance of getting divorced. we hit it off immediately and we're absolutely best friends! a woman or man doesn’t want to gross out their spouse, they just have to maintain their health. the 25-29s went from 39% to 25% in those five years, so a bit under 1 in 3 previously unmarrieds got married. do think susan needs to realize that ltr/marriage are essentially the same. when women are doing the hunting, they can do the choosing – till then, it’s a man’s prerogative…of course, she doesn’t have to come back to my place – that is her choice, but mine is who i’ll put in the time and effort on… and as long as i’m getting enough response in that age bracket, why would i change?” it’s supposed to go back to the man if the engagement is broken.@t-paine“or perhaps its just that he has spent several years plowing through the “hotter, younger, tighter” women, so he won’t miss out on anything when he prioritizes the older women now. is it that younger women started to question your views? young, attractive women are always asking him out, paying for his dinner and for the other stuff he has. if he refuses to formally marry her, he still owes the bride price. otherwise, you’re living a lie and robbing me of a real opportunity to marry someone who loves me the way you now love the other woman.(which is why i found the blog name “rational male” to be quite interesting.: but not if a woman like that is hanging out with an alpha crowd of guys like zach and his pals!”best part about growing up around the great lakes,@ passer_byat this point, i guess the only thing i can say is i’m glad to have been of service. producer, 34nope, i think timelines and cut-off dates are mainly a female pathology driven by biology/society cocktail.@ susanhaha, imagine my confusion at that high school dry spell! luckily she's a flower child from the 50's so she just shrugs and laughs when we can't come to terms or understand each other at all. i meet most of my inner circle through friends, family, and on occasion work. if i’m your girlfriend, i want you to end it with me.”restrictedness in many areas is coupled with moral anger against unrestricted types.“i think it’s fair to say that any woman who marries you in future is a fool. is the total alpha who isn’t used to being as cunning (as opposed to ruthless) and so once he stops being true to his alpha nature he fucks up way too much and dies because of it. gold[–]vaginasinparis 17 points18 points19 points 1 year ago (11 children)dated someone 10 years older than me 14-17. was quite strange to read all these avowedly devout people get angry at me for saying that the player lifestyle is immoral. petraeus would look a lot more alpha if he didn’t have that “durr-hurr-hurrrr” goofy grin half the time. the gf of the brilliant mathematician galois made sure he got killed by having him fight a duel. it affects women readers as much as, if not more so than, men. that women’s preferences shift more towards dads than cads as they get older (and incidently less attractive)? i called her roommate asked if i could drop of flowers/note when i knew she wasn’t there.“you learn a great deal more about a person after you take the relationship to the next level. (except around his dad, unfortch 🙁 ) and the actor sounds like he has an awesome life, too.’m wondering if she got “sloppy seconds” somehow mixed up with “second base” because she was worried zach would be bragging that he got that far. i consider myself to be well-educated (my college degree is actually in finance), and i have many hobbies that have nothing at all to do with shopping or getting my nails done. think any woman who gets married to the first man she dates runs a very strong risk of a poor marriage. if she finds him gross, she’s saying fat ugly men shouldn’t ever get laid. after dan left, the 30 year old (chuck, let’s say) was still at the party and came to me to ask if my roommate was interested in him, and was telling me how he was going to set dan and i up. better to drop disneyesque/churchy ideals of how attraction works, and up your ssi so that it matches reality. my stomach is always in knots, and i feel like the world is spinning. a girl without any sex appeal, even though she’s attractive, might as well just be a friend to me. sure not getting attention from the people you like is a universal problem, not just first world. that was literally my high point in high school, lol. the fourth time, the point is this: there’s a lot of anger and bitterness and hostility in the manosphere.“it’s based on online dating, though – where the checklists are ultra-superficial. he liked you, but might not be as forward as you think, and didn’t seem to get a vibe that you were really interested, so he chickened out; or. if anything, she’s made it clear that she is doing well financially herself. it may have just been that their naturally broadening field of attraction had broadened enough to make their husband more attractive. he scoffs at both and is so solidly good and loving to me.@cooperyou make a good point – what is a terrible match for cooper might be a perfect match for you! of all the old timers, there is one that still seems to be interested in chasing women at 71 (he tried to pick me up some time ago, rather hilarious–the man’s children must be my age, a bit older or even a bit younger. he was expressive and really well groomed but still stereotypically masculine- no sappiness about him. i didn’t feel very compatible with any of them, but i enjoyed myself. it does help a great deal to have them close though, no denying that fact. it can get stressful at times, especially the couple times he's had to be hospitalized. raising sons to be productive members of society rather than pussy chasers. she took a huge risk falling for him before he actually left the other woman. i am not interested in hurting or attacking a demographic, sex or group. like a true daughter of the upper middle class… it reminds me a little of when my father couldn’t figure out why anyone thought calculus was hard.@kendra“this december i am turning 33 and i find it depressing as hell that according to this blog, i’ve reached my peak and basically have nothing to offer to a quality guy who is looking to settle down. do you have a sense of whether these women followed the usual path of ejecting a high powered career and settling in westchester or fairfield? he had a hot little 18 year old mormon girlfriend shacking up with him. keep in mind that most of these are iranian marriages, and some are very old fashioned ones, meaning a huge gap and some are actually closely related. is what i feel like when you post jeremiads about how slutty and awful and unrestricted the way things are today. i have not yet seen them portrayed in any movie correctly. a 36-year-old will pass on twice as many mutations to his child as a man of 20, and a 70-year-old eight times as many, stefánsson’s team estimates.” i have to say, though, it really made me chuckle when you said to hope,“your solipsism is showing. one guy had remembered me from the voting line at the polling place three weeks ago; another guy supposedly had a convo with me in the summer about vacations (? i don’t think women have any idea that many men in their 30s would like to settle down… i think it’s a direct result of the culture that says all men want is sex. i have a friend in costa rica now, and my uncle did it in lesotho (that tiny country inside south africa) back in the ’80s. i took a few comedy classes to hone some of my writing skills/get another outlet to perform, and i found a veritable mecca of men with great senses of humor. but i do think he is quite depressed and is (or at least was) basically asking for help when he made those statements.”infidelity, turning into a complete bitch, gaining excessive amounts of weight, incompatible views on religion/politics/potential married life. tom selleck, liam neeson, a few others, but not many. once our youngest turns 18, my “duty” to society is complete, and i’m doing whatever i freaking feel like. at some point, ask her if she thinks you’re a player, and if so why? he just might come around and apologize for bailing due to his big power-point presentation to even busier businesspeople. i don’t have the time or patience to help someone crawl out of a very deep sexual repression of self. our group planned a trip to legoland for new years and everyone bailed but us two, and it turned into a date. laws of the true self (or enlightened superiority) are as follows (it too has grown from the original list}:1) the true self is more concerned with doing its best than simply appearing superior., would you say, then, that men can express disgust at fat and ugly women, but women cannot ever do so about men?@escoffierevery time i see a cartoon by that person, whoever it is, i think “bitchy girl who deserves to be alone. all in all, i need to stop reading this blog because it’s depressing for someone my age who, according to you, seems to have missed the happily ever after boat; you offer no hope for my situation. but the real point is, i’m 42 and my wife is 8 years younger. like the guy i mentioned yesterday, who told me about the constellations and then kissed me. in ltrs people do not suddenly end them because they meet someone better. now, by then i had long since become a partner, so i had some perceived authority (though no actual authority over these women as they were not even in my department)., i am such a femme fatale that he never had a chance! once in 2008 and i saw him last year as well. i have a habit of daydreaming, which is fine when one is walking, but kinda worrisome when driving. had to stop reading them because i was allowing it to affect how i viewed my husband. in america, prior to about 1950, it was possible to sue and/or jail a man for “breech of promise” in the circumstances described in the article you linked. i lost 150 pounds and then had to go on a drug that made me gain weight and i've gone back up 60 and i'm older looking now, my body is tired of the psych med rollercoaster and the up and down weight.@esco“in many ways, la has more in common with phoenix that it does with san francisco.’s writing is succinct: i serial dated only in order to find the right match, not to revolve through conquests (as i successfully did that up into my mid-thirties). when he asked how old she was and i said “23” he said it wasn’t a dealbreaker, that she was a great girl and he’d love to get to know her better, but that he wanted to make sure he wasn’t in the friend zone with her. during one scene, nick (who else has a major crush on him? when in that state i can’t sleep, can’t think straight, and can’t concentrate on anything to save my life. when amped up, she becomes 2-3 “points” (as much as i hate to be numeric) hotter. the time i got home i had little energy to go workout. the latest batch of newbies were named by the vet techs– all got characters! however, the woman’s “bride price” goes down if she’s not a virgin when she does marry. men are becoming increasingly resentful of this kind of scrutiny that questions their character simply because they are unmarried in their 30s. i was not in a state to extricate myself on my own and really needed to not be in that relationship. luckily i have a keen eye and zeroed in on the mention of my name before i read anything else….@susan“it may be unkind, even callous, but that is not the point. those balls are loaded with hot women, most of whom are well-educated. gold[–]stoney-stacheman 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (0 children)my girlfriend/fiance is 30 years older than me and it is great. do not think my past is average, and i didn’t say so. i was in the eighth grade and he was a freshman at the high school. i don’t think the same has been true of the men regarding her appearance! my point is, that system served her very poorly as it is serving quite a lot of young men and women very poorly..jackie nails it when she says of you:“yet, so many of your posts are crabbing about how bad things are. i don’t doubt that unrestricted folks can form real connections, but my advice is relative to zach. jealousy is a huge issue for me (which is why n gets under my skin so damn much).(look, some girls really do have beautiful eyes and smiles, and we get transfixed)lol…this makes me think of a little secret i have, but i’ll share…sometimes i browse craigslist m4w missed connections and click on the links that have the trains i ride, the areas i’m occasionally in, the wistfully-titled, or anything that is otherwise not obviously pervy. she also doesn’t know what is vitally important to her in a relationship until she has one (or more). there comes a point where she tears it off, lol. you want to know what my first impression of him was? so at 40, he is most likely to get interest from women 30 and older. well, i was (and still am) friends with a select crew of musicians and creatives in los angeles, and my boyfriend happened to be a part of that scene. what’s the difference between what you’ve been reading and the beta provider bait and switch gambit? i don’t know if i want to be a member of any organization that would accept me as a member.@ susan walshperhaps he is not racist at all, but whoever taught him to speak is. i’ve gone to several charity balls (filled with arrogant men), volunteered all over and continue to do so (met some lovely gay guys who have become good friends), and i haven’t joined one of those intramural sports teams, but my coworkers that have had no luck meeting anyone. there’s one whole blog in which the total slant is a sort of christian submissiveness that attracts as it’s only female commenters women from other christian blogs who argue amongst themselves as to who is the best at being submissive. as a young woman in her 20s and early 30s she was sexy as hell. we didn't even know how old the other was until a few months into the friendship, and by that time it just didn't seem to bother us.”for a bit there, it reminded me of the hawk guy in the 80’s “flash gordon” movie… 🙂. but women often scare men off if at 21 or 22, they are saying “you are the one i want to marry”. he's done tae kwon do for the past 27 years and his body just kinda stopped aging (he does it daily as a profession now).@mulei just wanted to tell you to go die in a hole. met because she was a fan of the tv show "the x-files," and had recently discovered fanfic. not only that, it’s not as if anyone asked him to play. a guy like ron perelman, whom i would regard as average looking for his age, will always have options that a less wealthy man will not. and this is coming from someone who did not like him at all at first. i realize it is arrogant of me, but that really is the truth.“cooper’s difficulties have been a direct result of flying loose and free with intimacy, trying to make a girl his gf after one night of hooking up. am picky, and by having fun, i don’t mean sleeping with the guys that aren’t really committed. in both scenario, either i or another person, couldn’t come up with anything more than ‘keep your chin up’ or things that sounds awfully close to “man up” when on the receiving end. i mean, they didn’t know i was 21 (i often am mistaken for 24-26) but i’m sure because i said my roommate was 23 that i was around that age as well. almost wonder… so much has come so easy for you. he doesn’t fly loose and free with his intimacy, and he takes ltr seriously, which seems to be a long dead trend. as he said, women and sex are easy and he doesn’t want to work at it with any woman; he sees no need to, and in nyc, no woman is special enough to make it worthwhile–there is always another one to give him exactly what he wants/needs. the only way to avoid it is to not risk intimacy at all. we would in no way be compatible as a couple.” “i don’t know, why don’t you ask lok-ious-the-magnificent. (although i bet someone like jaclyn friedman gives someone like gloria allred a pain in the ass that no amount of advil can dull. goldload more comments (1 reply)[–]rein_of_liberty 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)my girlfriend is 10 years and 4 months younger than i am. might well be amazing in other ways, but you’ll probably never find out if you follow the three date rule or otherwise indicate that sex is your primary goal. the problem was that, while he loved his wife and had never been unfaithful to her, she didn’t provide him with the admiration and sense of sharing goals i did. ltrs are not legal contracts, they are trial periods which may or may not lead to marriage., this is what a relationship-oriented man could think about her — even in the face of a really smooth and good looking guy who has bedded lots of hot women, she doesn’t give up her requirement for emotional connection before being able to have sex. if she doesn’t, then it proves that women are gold diggers and all that matters is the wallet. agree with the strong interest in mid 30s men wanting a relationship. and so the knight of la mancha tilting at windmills with his portly squire astride a donkey is one of the most enduring images in the popular imagination but the simple comedy of the affair belies the fantastically complex, beguiling and sophisticated story on which it is based. goldload more comments (2 replies)[–]mox_au 14 points15 points16 points 1 year ago (0 children)naw he trying to hit dat. 😳ramble, i read it right before going to the gym to hit the treadmill., the research seems to provide evidence to support baumeister’s erotic plasticity hypothesis by demonstrating that modulation of disgust response is possible. she said she has absolutely no idea i had romantic intensions. was only after this fiasco ended that i realized how horrible it was to do to someone. just as you do not owe any woman a relationship based on having had a few dates with her.@jp, intj“can’t he just set the portfolio on “auto-trade” using some quant-provided mathematical algorithm and just let it run? but it makes sense that a younger woman may have a more flexible and expansive set of “something else” needs/desires than those of a woman of equal age and so many men target accordingly. perhaps that’s why so much of this went right over my head, i wasn’t just “tricked” by the romance myth, i think i’m wired to actually like most of it as well…i always thought i was the romantic type! i’ve told male friends to their face i thought they were sleazy whores, and they laugh, agree, and we go out for a beer. one thing i’ve seen psychologists express concern about is that people don’t have a serious relationship at all until their late 20s, and then that marry that person.@coopercharolette says she isn’t looking for anything serious, but at the same time says “that is not to say that if i met the right person tomorrow, i wouldn’t get into a serious relationship. there really is something very sexy about a bit of gray in the sideburns. it hasn't been 100% rainbows and unicorns, but the lyrics to michael franti's "life is better with you" pretty much covers it. and if she’s waay behind on pace, she’s going to continue to find every small advance as one way out of line. to mention the fact that his compliment is backhanded and patronizing. she has a great sense of humor – you click from day one and thoroughly enjoy working together.’m into relationships for the part jp seems to hate: the routine. in the amount of traffic /r/askreddit receives daily/monthly?: game of thrones and older womenmy boyfriend thinks that cersei lannister is the hottest got female.”i was just completely confused and thoroughly embarrassed by the entire incident.! ):Permalinkembedsaveparentgive goldload more comments (2 replies)load more comments (1 reply)load more comments (10 replies)[–]thisisphantomhive 49 points50 points51 points 1 year ago (2 children)i think reading this gave me cavities.@ramblebrohamlet, how much theater did you do in hs and college? man should be aware, though, that if he does use his economic leverage to get a wife, that she is secretly lusting after the gardener, or her gym instructor, not him. you’re just starting to date, you have every right to check out the merchandise and shop around. that could be talk therapy, drugs or some combination of the two. think the biggest mistake we make, sometimes, is attaching a moral code to the restricted/unrestricted paradigm. your thoughts/responses to the question can go in the comments section.@pvwthis ties in with some of what i felt when i was that age, and it reminds me of something we spoke of earlier, of being teenagers and having grown men hit on us. the point is, though, that you did not have sex with multiple candidates at once.[4][5]the incidence of completed suicide is vastly higher among males than females among all age groups in most of the world. i think there are far, far too few people like me, and far, far too many that are opposite. subconsciously, most men know they’re not attractive, but they do their damndest to work with what they’ve got.

this means ages 25 to 55 is best for women to date. this woman is also really bitchy, so pardon if i seem biased against her, it’s because i am. just think it’s funny how if you change the phraseology by less than 1% it’s totally cutting edge hip pc even though to untrained ears it sounds almost exactly the same. there is of course other maintenance but it's not every day. gold[–]thomasbombadilius 20 points21 points22 points 1 year ago (1 child)the ever present increase in a person's timeline on this planet is a point of much existential crisis in many people in modern civilisation. now obviously those are only sometimes true, but it’s a brush many guys paint with. suddenly the body they’ve enjoyed and “owned” is the primary source of nourishment for someone else. of course, it’s a matter of preference – i have no objection to a man’s wanting to select a woman with a longer timeframe of fertility., i think you should go to a speed dating event and tell every guy that you want to married within the next year and don’t want to waste time if that’s not going to happen, so that’s why you are interviewing a lot of guys. 🙂 it’s interesting: someone told me, recently, that my soul had specifically chosen this path to learn how to heal myself and others. i don’t assign less importance to the girl’s well-being because she’s some random person. add a significant age gap into the mix—we’re talking a decade or more—and you’ve probably experienced the highest of highs and the lowest of lows. i couldn’t explain it at the time, and i still don’t really understand why it did. man should be aware, though, that if he does use his economic leverage to get a wife, that she is secretly lusting after the gardener, or her gym instructor, not him.@ted dyeah, the truth is, my “margin for error” on this issue is very, very, very slim. goldload more comments (7 replies)load more comments (4 replies)[–]sausagemcmuffdiver 267 points268 points269 points 1 year ago (26 children)i went on a blind date with a 38 year old woman when i was 28. the story was there long before the cartoon, and it’s really about the transformative power of love. think the biggest mistake we make, sometimes, is attaching a moral code to the restricted/unrestricted paradigm. when i say the wife and i are making plans for the “empty nest”, i don’t necessarily mean vacations in mexico. – “i’d like to think that men eventually grow out of their desire to date the stupid bleached blonde with the fake boobs and high pitched giggle. the median male marriage age is 28, then by definition 50% of men have done exactly this. it takes time to blossom, and for the people in the relationship to realize that they see this person becoming a part of their life and putting more effort into the relationship. what that tells me is that you are dead serious–more serious than most–about not wanting anything serious right now> which further tells me that i don’t think you should be on the market. any case, my husband observed my unrestricted moments before we got together, and he had some of his own. heard her boys, make sure to develop a strategy of least interestpli is a strategy to get hand when you really like someone. while it is true that i tend to address my posts to women in college and just after, i actually have a lot of female readers in the 25-35 bracket., it was a genuine question that i asked her and her thoughts and experiences perfectly match what i already thought. i have been reading about how female attraction triggers change as women mature, and they become less impulsive. hate sounding like my grandfather, but man i could really rip shit up if i could go back to my 18yo body with my 42yo knowledge. you’re starting with a woman that is already 25, by the time they’re ready to have that kid they’re already cutting it awfully close to the fertility decline. but if a man expresses that same sentiment in public and in writing about unattractive and overweight women, he’s a sexist pig jerk. it can be more challenging to meet older guys, who are unlikely to hang out in the same venues frequented by the post-college crowd. but companionship and sex have always meant more to me than money and status. also, the looking in his eyes during sex helped, so yes, that is intimacy. i truly believe he's my soul mate or whatever you'd like to believe.@jpi think this is one of the problems in life; you are generally going to find someone you like better because you are going to continue to be exposed to new people as you move forward in life. i don't know how he survived 27 years with no human touch except for hugs from his mum on his yearly trips home. townes-brocks syndrome has a 50% chance of being passed on (esrd and mental retardation are just two of the more severe/rare components) so the odds aren’t too good, but there is ivf/pgd (where they test the embryos before choosing one to implant as part of in vitro). it’s an accusation of immature behavior against zach, when you think about it. board game girls are awesome, if i do say so myself. meanwhile, i just kind of would “happen upon” books that seemed very helpful to my situation. current;y have 234 emails which i’m really not interested in reading., now that i recall, johnny almost got trapped twice, first by the barmaid in small house and then by madalina demolines in last chronicle. i think sometimes we assume people have a ton of options when the truth is they have one really good option.?”haha, that would be hilarious, but i daresay you would be labeled someone who is not respectful of our lgbt friends, and your application to be a spiritual leader would be rejected. it’s just my neurotic hangup about being told anything over 100lbs is “fat” but i don’t see anyone non-skinny even existing on tv or in hollywood, except as a punchline or jokey character., i think you are on to something re: “bringing out that side. since my college pals are still in that “senior yeaaaaar man” stage., on the blogs were the adage gets a lot of credence, there are older guys who think that they can continue to be attractive to very young women into their 60s as long as they work out. do agree though that a woman who wants to marry shouldn’t spend a lot of time with men who don’t. from the beginning of the night, the 30 year old guy was telling me that the 27 year old (let’s call him dan) was very interested in me and that i was “totally dan’s type”. thing is, i’m not interested in having sexual relationships with other men, so their sexuality isn’t as primary in my mind.”well, i’ve interestinged and unusualed myself out of re-invitations to a certain local household for parties, that’s for sure, as my wife constantly reminds me. this december i am turning 33 and i find it depressing as hell that according to this blog, i’ve reached my peak and basically have nothing to offer to a quality guy who is looking to settle down. like the “hussar” neologism creted by jackie 🙂ted d, the polish winged hussar btw, st. age/maturity does not guaranty that a man will bring those things that a woman isn’t already providing for on her own – even if she is a few years younger. the breaking point was when he picked up a guitar at a party and performed a love ballad he had written for me. because i am trying to live this, and see myself falling short all the time. in my weak moments it was hard to tune the haters out but he's the best thing i've ever encountered in life and i've been waiting for him! you have claimed to be a restricted woman, but you have had your share of short term flings, alpha boyfriends, and at least one flyby from an air force pilot, right? we dated a bit and had a great time for about six weeks before she gave me a brief apology and returned to the other coast. susan is going to report a bug:I guess that the ‘comment number to go to’ to ‘page number’ mapping is calculated on that comment’s position in the visible list, when it should be on its position in the overall list (vis + invis comments counted). gold[–]chevymonza 30 points31 points32 points 1 year ago (0 children)ah so you didn't go steady until then? there is no particular act too sleazy for me to wrap my head around (not that i would personally do everything) and “no holds barred” in the bedroom between a couple. i just don’t think a lot of women know how to ooze sensuality. as a very restricted person, i’m constantly shocked at how quickly some people feel comfortable getting naked with someone new.″ and i’m still in the short camp far more often than in the “average” camp.. she rode the alpha cock carousel for 12 years and now that she’s about to become a crone she wants a guy with a good job to marry her because none of the guys she really wants will have her. his biggest problem is he's stuffy, british and very shy. he’s also the one who broke into my apartment to leave a written apology while i was sleeping after we’d argued. am not arguing that it wasn’t, i am genuinely curious. i’m personally not sure if i could date a girl before sleeping with her. and yes, i’m cheering for him to fatly and deliciously fuck her and be fucked by her even though it would be adultery (adultery that trumps incest can’t be that wrong, can it! this is why it’s so infuriating for men when they are told they “will get the last laugh” and that it’s a complement to be the marriage material. for the sake of argument, can you explain to me what the difference here would be?, wadr, i do not think you have a good sense of smp dynamics for young women. luck would have it, he wound up jobless and after a couple months not paying rent i told him to pack up and move out. but you have never felt this degree of longing before, for any woman. no reason to take advantage of a mentally unstable woman.:”my own pattern went 1) meet guy in class or atparty 2) hope guy asks me to have coffee in student union/elsewhere 3) hope for date 4) date a few times 5) rinse and repeat. of you seem to think i will get guys to take me on dates for a free meal or two, and ditch then when they start liking me. my brother, who is 53, is seriously considering going to rabbinical school. it isn’t any more a feature of this smp than any previous one., i’m wanting to continue, but instead i’m going for my lunch walk…. unfortunately, i’ve seen many parents take great pride in having a ladykiller son. but men absolutely feel a sense of shame or anxiety when their peers are all booed up and they’re not. just seems that a large number of woman have behaved “unrestricted” at some point in their lives regardless of their actual nature, yet i know plenty of men that have never acted “unrestricted” either by choice or circumstances. when women are doing the hunting, they can do the choosing – till then, it’s a man’s prerogative…men display and women select, so your results must determine your strategy. within two weeks of living with his parents his father moved out. you can even hear it when people compliment toddlers, “oh boy, he’s going to break a lot of hearts! i don’t think unrestricted folks are incapable of forming real connections, it just tends to happen in a different order relative to sexual contact. i am just so busy with my own life right now, that i have to be a little selfish. goldload more comments (1 reply)[–]kdgteacher77 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)wife is ten years older. then, here is my question for you americans: isn’t just befriending someone from the opposite sex (that is, making a friend band which goes together to social events, everyone pays for each other, no romance implied) considered weird in usa nowadays?’d figure bringing out that side of her is something most restricted guys would want, but who knows maybe i’m wrong.: (on hotornot), of photo i showed you, just me +2 others. goldload more comments (3 replies)load more comments (2 replies)[–]jaymez82 19 points20 points21 points 1 year ago (0 children)wife is 14 years older. that women’s preferences shift more towards dads than cads as they get older (and incidently less attractive)? so i’m in no rush to marry before a certain age, as my options will still be pretty damn good for a long, long time to come. he acts like he's five so it doesn't really matter how old he is. as long as she doesn’t aim so much higher than her own short term smv that she acquires expensive tastes. both are good, but animal based vitamin d is a very important nutrient. story for which napier is often noted involved hindu priests complaining to him about the prohibition of sati by british authorities., the gyst of what you were saying at dalrock’s was that they should be shamed for wronging and damaging these women who they go through, as if the women have no independent agency or responsiblity for themselves. missing me while he is supposed to be managing a portfolio sounds like bad news for investors. i almost didn’t want to start hooking up with her last night because there was no sexual chemistry and no chance it would go anywhere further. to susan’s point, i should be able to have coffee or even a dinner with a guy a couple times before he is planning our future. other words, reggie miller had a natural knack for shooting threes./understatement“well, i’ve interestinged and unusualed myself out of re-invitations to a certain local household for parties, that’s for sure, as my wife constantly reminds me., who cares if she breaks some poor schmoe’s heart? more comments (1 reply)[–]marysthrow 16 points17 points18 points 1 year ago (5 children)9. i’m just pointing out the math, and undoubtedly beating a dead horse again.”well, in my case, i just wanted to be in a relationship because it was more emotionally satisfying than being not in a relationship. it wasn’t very religious, but it certainly wasn’t up to date with any kind of modern cultural values. gold[–]chevymonza 40 points41 points42 points 1 year ago (6 children)wait, you were 14 when you started dating a 24 year old? before our first date i had met him at one of the group potlucks at the end of january, and he always made it a point to seek me out at every event until our first date at the end of march.@jpactually, with morality being a human social concept that is quite fluid across cultures and societies, and tribal affiliation being a genetically-driven (your tribe usually shares more genes than theirs), biologically common (all sorts of other animals display it) trait, i’d say it works the other way around. since people choose mates who resemble their opposite-sex parents, the daughter might be more likely to fall for a guy who acts like her pua father.@passer_bydude, how would you feel about your wife drunk-blogging and making graphic comments to young men?) after a day, or so of that, you start ramping up the number of comments (see above for proof). sense is that this girl is uncomfortable and is feeling pressured. it may not work but it can lead you to something else that will. an education where anything less than perfection leads to mcdonald’s tends to create a stressful experience.“on that note, i am not a fan of the term “hooking up”. my wife deserves my loyalty she has paid for it in time and passion.) i actually disagree with susan about your age and being too young to worry about marriage. i got engaged and married; i used to call her once in a while, because she was someone i cared about and was concerned about. goldload more comments (6 replies)[–]pyrokineticplatypus 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children)when i was born, my mom was 31 and my dad was 50. should be a link to manage your subscriptions – go there and uncheck. that vein my husband’s best friend wife tries to go for the “longest road” i’m more development cards/bigger army. there are exceptions of course, but it’s not realistic for most men to think they can pull much younger women for ltrs., my completely uninformed theory is that he was an immigrant without much of an accent.@susan” i hear a lot of women say what they want or deserve (! goldload more comments (2 replies)load more comments (6 replies)[–]calijor 45 points46 points47 points 1 year ago (1 child)i'm late but my mom and stepdad are like 18 years apart and met through runescape. sound of the wind whistling through those feathers as he charged into battle upon his war horse terrified the enemy. the only thing that frustrates either of us about it is when he gets nostalgic and tries to relate over something i was too young to remember, or when i, for example, have to try to explain the appeal of youtubers or something millennial like that. weight lifting increases your t, but precisely how much is sort of an x factor. goldload more comments (1 reply)load more comments (1 reply)[–]ahydell 438 points439 points440 points 1 year ago (27 children)my last boyfriend was 16 years older than i am (i love older guys) and he had a lot of issues with it, he always thought i was too young (i was 39 at the time and he was 55) and brought it up a lot, and always tried to trick me with trivia from the 60s and 70s trying to trip me up, it sucked.’a toxic bachelor is when it’s no longer cute to be single, and seems sad and desperate instead.) not that that is something to wish for, but there is clearly a sex difference there. of the time, there’s no oral argument, which means that some clerk just reads the filing, writes a decision, and then the judge signs it.“if you want i can do it, i bet it would be just as long and rant-like as the stuff i post about women.@esco, sassyi am trying to imagine a situation where a racial qualifier in a compliment is somehow acceptable and am coming up goose egg. i’m happiest with someone when my experiences with them are predictable and with minimal excitement (meaning ups or downs).@j:“you guys are always on about how women need to value their sexuality. i’m curious to know if the standards for beauty are really higher there, or if everyone is just neurotic. otherwise, you’re living a lie and robbing me of a real opportunity to marry someone who loves me the way you now love the other woman. the labels on the y axis and the circles make it look like the chart is based off real data, but it’s just based on his hunch.? if we are sleeping apart on the bed, she often slides her foot over until she touches me just to feel me there. as your friend’s buddy, your job is to help him get laid (or get the girl, whichever). i would say that in general, most of them did have dates, though fewer options. he didn’t promise a life on easy street with tons of chicks and things going your way. we all go through this process after a relationship breaks up of picking up the pieces of our emotional lives. there is no way you can discern that without dating them first.” 20-something year old going for a 30 year old is one thing. you don’t want to end up with someone who doesn’t make you feel warm and snuggly.“as for you, i find it hard to believe that you were at the bottom of the pile with those luscious big brown south asian boobies and delectable chocolate nipples. in fact, i’d say i treated him a good deal of dignity which he seemed to appreciate.. he met someone later that night or the next day who gave him a better vibe and he’s been fucking her like a raging bull ever sense; or.”susan, you want to know why men are bitter and angry? i am 33, and would like to marry a woman about 20 years younger than me.@ted dwell, reading about you being perceived as emotionless in most settings but being quite romantic at heart hits home to me. that’s a recipe for bad news, and basically sums up my high school relationship in a nutshell. they assume that he is being used and hope that the sex is worth it. up to the sweetest, most resilient and independent young man you’ve ever seen. would liken window shopping in today’s envirnment to a few dates–3 should do it but let’s say no more than 6–before you really know if you see a potential in that person. you don’t rationalize that or try to bend it into numbers, stats, or whatever else. day i had to go in front of the mirror, while she would call me names until i cried. it would seem that both could be true: the less impulsive and more prepared would employ the former and the more impulsive would employ the latter. as a girl, if you’re at all attractive, simply stand there and bat your eyes and you’ll meet a couple guys every night. if i was secular, i would hope we could quietly go to the courthouse and have a small celebration with only closest friends and family afterwards.[–]manypuppies 76 points77 points78 points 1 year ago* (15 children)he had 4 cats when i moved in. this means he will leave her a widow for 30+ years, during a time when she has near zero dating value”. susan is tacitly supporting it, and i’m simply pointing it out. took my baby daughter to a law firm function once and had her splurt on one of the partner’s shoes. can you think of any reason you might end a ltr instead of marrying that person? i don’t like thinking back to the campus days if i don’t have to.“but the judgment goes both ways here, and you can see that in iggles’ comment (sorry to put you on the spot iggles! is it that the fraternity guys they socialize with are primarily unrestricted and so the restricted guys are on the outside? your roommate falls on hard times and you kick him out, but let his girlfriend stay rent free? but more often than not, it appears that women take much longer than high school to mature, especially since today’s young women no longer have the guidance of their parents. own (awful) grandmother used to say she was “independent” all the time. i’d write a program to automatically send messages to my so telling her i miss her, i love her, etc. but ser jorah is more cautious and has a badass side as well, just not around daenarys. sure, it would be for the women, but it’s insulting to the men.”welcome to how most 19 and 20 year old guys felt when you were that age and on top of the world., several times when i have asked you what actions you will take as a result of convos here, you have never replied, as far as i can see. i did asked him if he feels neglected and he says not at all, we had our co-sleeper between us and he did told me he missed cuddling i told him me too and now the co-sleeper is in one side i think we are both in the same level of interest for the baby and for each other. each of my children has a 5% chance of being born with a mental handicap, and a 5% chance of being born with end-stage renal disease (low, but still higher than average and enough to scare me).. like with all other movements, the more radical and pure members would not get invitations to the expensive parties where they raise the money, but they would continue to be a source of new or novel ideas. that is not to say that if i met the right person tomorrow, i wouldn’t get into a serious relationship. let’s say that you also knew that they were planning on being engaged for something like 12-18 months before the actual wedding. was just providing the link to my story about a nuclear shit test when i was 14.’ve had my buddy say i’m gonna fuck her, turned around and said he was looking for a girlfriend.”they were also pretty happy at being offered sex by hot women in their 20’s. i do say i miss you when she’s actually gone for a while. zach is pushing for the physical and in his own words, managed to get her to take her top off, but she is clearly uncomfortable because he is not emotionally invested in her.’m also pointing out that a sizable number of the men in the 80%, the betas, deltas and gammas, and the betas susan says she wants women to meet, date and marry, are going to resemble perelman physically (short, fat and physically unattractivewhat is the basis for this claim?.Well, that explains where i got the idea that “sex equals auto-marriage” from. is no question that that sororites make looks a criteria for entry though none would ever say so aloud. to me, that kind of strength and resilience is beyond impressive; seeing as denigrating into sociopathy is pretty much the lannister default. if that isn’t incentive to get married before you turn 40, we don’t know what is. it's almost as if our age difference creates a barrier that might otherwise take a lifetime to construct. and there isn’t a damn thing she can do about it.) iow, partnered women are not at risk for adultery during ovulation.@tedd:also, don’t worry, i’ve now accepted the fact that i’m really a transsexual lesbian, so don’t take my perspective as though it came from a man. i’m also pointing out that a sizable number of the men in the 80%, the betas, deltas and gammas, and the betas susan says she wants women to meet, date and marry, are going to resemble perelman physically (short, fat and physically unattractive) even if they don’t resemble his personality. i looked back and still can’t figure out how my name got involved here, but i would like to point out that my opinion of myself couldn’t be further from “holy” unless i raped, pillaged, and murdered.@lokland:“i’ve seen college kids who are in relationships shut down another person who was offering (flirting/sex/relationship) when that person was obviously higher in value than their current mate. 3: spend all weekend with girlfriendin hindsight, it’s kind of clear why college was a completely meaningless experience for me.”i’ve seen college kids who are in relationships shut down another person who was offering (flirting/sex/relationship) when that person was obviously higher in value than their current mate. if an ltr can be ended for any reason so can a marriage. · 4983 comments they say girls are "basic" if they wear yoga pants, uggs, and drink starbucks, but what is "basic" for guys? i just wish more women wanted kids but i keep running into a lot who don’t.@jackie“imagine a black man saying to me, you are a pretty white girl.. i’ve read that for every inch of height below a certain threshold, males need to have a certain increased annual salary to compensate. my boyfriend was getting worse and worse and finally just chased my kids and i out of my own home. i literally folded in defeat at the sigh tof his comforting the kid and said “as pissed as i am at you right now, you’re still jaysson’s father. rob married his wife when the were both about 30 and hot. when i married her, she was 44, and people regularly guessed 29 or 30, and she was carded all the time.@loklandi said dtf – the woman who is down to f*ck now. or should you end your relationship and explore a relationship with the woman at work? my kids are 9 and 13 and they love him so much.”not being a smart ass, but why do you believe this to be true?), family-oriented and ready to be with a man who knows how to lead. :) i remember seeing pictures of her mother when her mother was in her 60s and thinking, "damn! most people don’t get that lucky, and they wind up dating a few people, which is also ok. however, staying single for those most interested in getting into monogamous relationships, no fun whatsoever. may not necessarily be uncomfortable with escalation, but the pace. it’s easy to amuse oneself after a few glasses of wine. we met, got to know each other and decided to date after about six months of friendship. if susan and other women don’t like old, bald, fat men, then they don’t like old, bald, fat men. i’m just encouraging women to broaden the net and not be suspicious of men a bit older, who have some advantages. like you quoted from david buss about 3 to 4 years older. comments like hers implicitly tell the manosphere “yes, you’re right. but i have sensed from people around me that they’re starting to think that of me. like being delivered from the gates of hell itself to the garden of eden. my issue with charlotte was that she seemed to want the ltr without any effort toward (or real exposure to) the pair bond on her part. do enjoy nice things, but i save for them myself. re: “i miss you,”i think the differences reflected in this conversation are really just personality/preference differences. keep repeating this and punctuate the five year period with two girlfriends, meaning that instead of this, you get (periodically):weekend 1: spend all weekend with girlfriend. i remember one week that i had dates with 3 separate men. it was quite strange to read all these avowedly devout people get angry at me for saying that the player lifestyle is immoral. my point was that after a longer time (a year or more), guys seem to feel more obligated to continue a relationship if they are no longer really into it. i opened the door and this woman had the president of pike’s head pressed firmly into her cleavage. most of my friends lose their heads for her at the moment they saw her. each time he would go away, his friend (30) would say to me, “so what do you think of him? he was hot in a time that few actors were. provide physical health care that is top notch, psychological care should come next. light you can shed on this situation would be tremendously helpful. goldload more comments (1 reply)load more comments (1 reply)[–]manypuppies 584 points585 points586 points 1 year ago (78 children)he's 21 years older than me. she didn’t wind up with him, but before long she had a bf who was not at all bad looking. i had previously said i had met 2 women who loved this game, and have to amend that to 3 (forgot one stem woman i know who is a big gamer)….@susan:“i do not believe that most males would welcome this approach.@susani agree that she definitely used some mad seduction girl game (i. need to go fetch that tempurpedic pillow for my desk again, as i have already started banging my head against it.’ve gone for months without talking to a single member of my extended family and thought nothing of it at all.@ted d“you see, i and many men i know never went through that “bleach blonde” phase, so although i understand the stereotype you were shooting for, it is only because i’ve seen it in popular culture.” and, surely, you must understand that it’s weird that she thinks he would brag to his friends (who she barely knows) about taking her top off. you’re getting a lot of input from men in their 40s here.'m not sure what future issues you are exactly worried about, but i hope this helps a bit at least. caused you to lose attraction, you are free to end the relationship rather than carry on even though you don’t find her attractive any more. i’m 22 and it does occasionally happen that i meet a man in his 40s i find attractive.” it hits all the right stereotypical and sexually fetishistic notes simultaneously. recall when my daughter was 18, a 24 year old took an interest in her at their summer job. ”sweetheart (and i mean that in the best way possible, no condescension here) it is far too late to ‘save’ me from myself on this.@rollowe seem to be on the same page wrt the mature man. i suppose for us it just didn't come up because we weren't intending to get together right out of the gate. we are taking the kids to england in august to meet his family (i met them last april). my guess is that the father, who would tell his daughter that she needs implants if he thought she was lacking, wouldn’t care all that much about whether or not she gets “played”. (because by then, that’s what their view of all the guys with the options have been doing)my thoughts exactly. i started to beat myself up for past mistakes, i would say (out loud), i forgive myself for judging myself.@susan:“i have known three divorces to occur because the husbands came out of the closet – i really don’t get it. be clear, my boyfriend isn’t rich, but he’s picked up one important habit over the years: investing. in retrospect, i do feel that i was targeted for my naiviete. vulaume – “well, i guess i understand how you mean it, from a “healthy point of view”… but wait a minute here, hold on. with so much communication available nowadays via online/chatting/texting/phone, there’s no reason why the relationship has to happen before the discovery. usually good, on occasion bad, but as someone who tries not to feel much at all, i find it very liberating to just allow it to happen when i’m with her. perhaps it was because he said it almost every time that he saw me., i had in the back of my mind that she was in her late ’20s. i’m sure i could’ve been married to several hundred. he chats with him on his ipod (i monitor the conversations. don quixote tells the story of an unlikely hero – an impoverished country gentleman who goes mad from reading too much and decides to put the world to rights by becoming a knight errant. j plays the "when i was your age" card quite a bit and i'd get annoyed if he wasn't right and offering me such good advice. 🙂i wonder if, on some level, she senses that you have made a lot of conquests, for lack of a better term. the older the man is, the less the maxim holds imo.“another male blogger recently wrote that he wanted to take a scalpel to the faces of women who complain about sexual dry spells. my brother thought this was wonderful, and he could not understand my total disgust with this pc nonsense.@susan“slow aging body” is kind of a silly way of putting it, but weight lifting /does/ increase testosterone which prevents age from showing. that’s pretty much what j said:dealing with depression requires supportive listening as opposed to advice giving or cheering people on. only i had not wasted my youth on games…i wish i could get those ten years of my life back (14-24). you see if you like each other over a few weeks, months, whatever. did i get into moderation or it’s fault of my ie session expiring? i’m still glad i got to see the concert and can pick out orion in a snap. that’s a recipe for bad news, and basically sums up my high school relationship in a nutshell. i’m curious to know if the standards for beauty are really higher there, or if everyone is just neurotic. i think 15 years might be as far as i could manage, but only because at that point, we probably wouldn’t share any kind of common history at all. to be fair though, their double standards are really just a reaction to feminist double standards. i’m a firm believe in “anything goes within a committed relationship” and a woman that conservative about her sexuality would be very difficult to make comfortable enough to do some of the stuff i’m interested in these days. there is also 10 years between my parents, but i'm not sure how they met.[–]manypuppies 20 points21 points22 points 1 year ago (3 children)lol people ask how many animals i have and if i don't want to give the real answer i say 'oh a couple few'. the difference is, while you seem to concentrate on the “little things” that can be changed quickly to push things in the right direction, i’m more likely to say the whole thing is broke, should be scrapped, and started overi would love to see you formulate a strategy for that! in fact, i’d say sex should come after the ltr decision is made, and based on the “mini-marriage” description, i can see that as a happy medium to no sex before marriage. do i send the bill for my professional diagnosis as to why your ‘recent comments’ links don’t work? if the ‘sphere went mainstream, the crazier voices would be silenced to some degree.’m not invested in the debate politically, particularly, but fat ugly men get a much bigger pass in society than fat ugly women.@susanquick update on the more conservative girl i’m dating.)and look, once we got to see how talented ld was with her work on girls, i don’t think a single woman has made an unkind remark about her (ld) looks. alone is indeed a prospect that should concern a woman who marries a man 10+ years older than herself.@szopeni didn’t delete the comment on ukranian feminists, i have no idea what happened there. i know you don’t believe me, but i would be willing to put down money on it happening within the year. problem is that this results in somebody’s heart being smashed. gold[–]hematospermia-man 34 points35 points36 points 1 year ago (19 children)that's so fucking cute! that my mom and dad lived till 87 and 92 respectively and my in-laws died young, i sort of expect to be a widow. me in a mood where i should be settling with a guy who may not be ‘the one’ just because he is older & my market value is fast declining. a good example of this is semester abroad romances, which are very common and can be very intense.@ted di just can’t understand how anyone can take months to even decide if it’s possible at all with their current so, and then possibly years to get there., i am curious, if you did find out that the best place to meet men were places like:– white plains and other ny burbswould you start making an effort to have more of your life exist in these places (i. in a more abstract sense, there are two issues here. experience with following the ‘recent comments’ links is that they stop working after a couple of pages (they go to the wrong page and stay at the top of page)…as a techy i would guess that this is a bug triggered when the number of deleted (spam corralled) comments gets too large.” at this point, she sounds about as fun as a wet mop.”i think that there’s some neuroscience/psychology about this floating around. night, jeff is picking me up for the sig pi party. i don’t know if those guys feel sheepish, like “toxic bachelors” or if they have no interest in young women, as zach described. that is, what are you offering that a man would want, not the romcom version of it.“if you can get him, that means you can get someone even better!” while women may enjoy or benefit from talk therapy more than men, much depression will not be alleviated by listening alone. both were women of color and both were used in ads for cleaning products. they can pick up the fight from there, and i’m going to find someplace nice to settle down and ride out whatever is coming, good or bad. he got his master’s at 27, and didn’t start his first well-paying job until then. immediately after the performance my tendency is to find a way to disappear back into the shadows again as quickly as possible. at one point my boss pulled me into her office and pleaded with me, "please do not have sex at work. but now, over a year later, he is starting to become a real catch, but too late! heh poor eater this one ain’t, not sure about the rest hubby is really organized so maybe that will help. i was literally smirking at the thought, and only realized it when i saw myself in the review mirror while scanning behind me, as is my routine. gold[–]strangermouse 49 points50 points51 points 1 year ago (16 children)ohio to oregon. my boyfriend had been steadily working in his field for years, so it was hard to get him to understand things i felt i had to do in order to find success in my field. the expression on peoples face when i tell them my dad was born in 1929 is priceless. gold[–]r1prev123 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)not me but my parents: my mum and her parents were in the middle east and so was my dad (before parents met).@susan“i said dtf – the woman who is down to f*ck now.”the baby and the person who carried it for 9 months and gave birth to it are the ones who need “special care and attention”. if two people are really in love and want to be together, they’ll make it work. but for the life of me i don’t understand why on earth manboobzians would get all sensitive and sentimental about patriarchal religions.)i would love to hear more about rabbinical school, though. you two are sweet and height may not matter to much to you (the beloved 1%),can i be sweet too? she was positively smokin’ hot in the big easy and sea of love.“but a guy in his 40′s shooting for a 22yo woman is a pervert, and let’s not even talk about those 50+ guys! would you like to play yourself in the hus movie?”*reads: i’m not open to something serious*like, isn’t “i expect to date at least two or three… before i get married” and ” i am just so busy with my own life right now, that i have to be a little selfish” things a cad would say after a p&d? seems to me most women prefer you to be this way as a man anyway (and that’s not chest puffing, just an observation). his daughter ends up being played by a cad who used the lessons directly from her dad’s blog. first year was much the same as yours, used and abused by pretty much every woman. i know i’m not “one of the good people” and i’m ok with it. now, that does not mean that i could not go workout, but it would have been one more thing that i did not need to do that i was adding to my list of “chores”. if the relationship ends for other reasons, then that happens, not merely because you want to upgrade to the better model. would any woman want to cover up great looking breasts? my bff met her husband in medical school – and she is 7 years older than he is., re: girls’ preferences on online dating, i know a lot of guys when they see a girl who’s 23 looking for 27+ year old guys, it’s a biiiig gold digger red flag., the more you see yourself as a loving parent would: with infinite patience and unquenchable love and acceptance. things can get a little tense here, but of all the places i virtually “hang out” online, this one is by far one of the most civil. would be the socially awkwardness of the exchange that would thoroughly confuse me, therefore causing anxiety. but if susan and sassy could see the facebook messages we sent each other in the beginning, they’d probably puke lol. pompey fights back in 3 misconceptions about men who date a lot of women. my now stepmom and my dad have an 18 year gap between them. and then they complain about the unrealistic images they get “bombarded with. i kind of feed off of the energy, and i focus on swaying my hips and gliding effortlessly (almost slithering snakelike). “my bf and i are definitely of the clingy variety, and we sort of cancel each other out, meaning both of us knows the other is clingy, so we’re not constantly seeking validation/assurance via clingy-ness. but i’m not meeting the guys i want to meet., i have mentioned this before, which means that you may have already answered it, but, i can only remember hearing that 1/2 * man’s age + 7 rule once when i was a child, and i remember it was from someone who was laughing about it (oh, isn’t that awful…that kind of thing). the tone is one of “if you actually wanted to have a real emotional connection (coughforonce)…” see how that becomes a judgment on zach’s character? because christianity has one standard and it has been this way for hundreds and hundreds of years! i meant that as a friend i don’t know what to do to help a guy, whereas with a woman, i know what i can do: listen. it sounds so trivial, but i would be embarassed if someone i knew saw me there. and i think that’s what a lot of people do, to their own detriment. you’d have to revoke suffrage, uninvent birth control, and criminalize abortion. if you don’t do it, i’m going to snipe it for my love, actually style hus screenplay. those guys will not have the provider/income progression nor the social skills progression (charm and confidence) that you are gaining now. i tend to view my family the way i view everyone else.-paine, using someone else’s bad behavior to justify your own is not okay. thing i’m incredibly grateful for is not having to deal with jealousy in my current relationship.@lokland:“also, how do i unsubscribe myself to this thread? i went there because some of the absolute hottest women i know are, as you say, sick of the bar scene and almost exclusively meet guys online. but, did you continue to date him even though you knew it woudln’t work?” with aging maturity, wealth, dominance, ect, you-name-it, there will always, always be better. certain californian has taken this single dad off the market…:) here’s hoping it keeps that way. if you want i can do it, i bet it would be just as long and rant-like as the stuff i post about women. don't know exact ages but i think they were something like 20 and 36 or something. as in, a mutually beneficial exchange of conversation, good humor and an interesting experience? that, any time i see christians yelling about how hard they’re being persecuted: that is what jesus said was going to happen! move together based on whoever finds their job first, or has the best likelihood for success.” she may have taken off her top, but she hid her breasts. you troll here, at rollo’s and and at manboobz? though, any suggestions on where to meet guys specifically in new york? i bet his wives won’t put out for him. but i think most people would be terrified to be in my position.” acquiring a bride through intercourse wasn’t the most socially acceptable way to do so, but no man got away with triffling with the womenfolk. i would say that’s a str, short term relationship, not a ltr. to put it another way, they call it “game” for a reason. used to work for this guy who lives down my street. tbh, i wouldn’t care if my entire college burned down and everyone died, but i would have moved heaven and earth to save the galaxy from the reapers. i know you are used to pushing back on woman haters and their ilk, but *i* am not one of them, and i don’t think most of the guys here are either. the likelihood of this happening has little to do with the mindset. with a nine hour work day and an hour commute each way (absolute worst case scenario) that leaves ample time. i was only really happy if i was playing games or on the net. the man went out to two marriages and a couple of kids out of wedlock. why would cooper or intj want to invest their time and emotions in you?

– “i’ve always been the type to find emotional communication kind of exhausting and awkward, so i’ve never assumed anyone else likes it either. c’mon, vd, jon snow is where it’s at. lol (being somewhat facetious but there’s some truth to it too.”i don’t think a person is obligated to make that decision early, but to someone who says to be looking for a ltr, i’d say look early. i don’t see that working out around here where plenty of single woman have access to those services for little to no money. 🙁 i would be willing to bet there’s some major trauma or mental illness behind all this. they need (and will be getting soon) is more bodies with better training. assumes that all women or most women give their sexuality to bums, and i’ve just spent six months driving the final nail into that coffin. he understands me better than any human can, and i fully believe that because he understands me, he will accept me as well. it’s an accusation of immature behavior against zach, when you think about it. i did asked him if he feels neglected and he says not at all, we had our co-sleeper between us and he did told me he missed cuddling i told him me too and now the co-sleeper is in one side i think we are both in the same level of interest for the baby and for each other. sometime in the near future her aunt will most probably be a grieving widow too. also, way way way way more open to debate and intepretation! a general rule, uni, for a smart and not pretty guy, living in a dorm is torturous hell. irl (in real life) she was more dependent than a parasite, i am sorry to say, but announced her independence at every opportunity! we met through mutual friends at a local bar/music scene. but at least a few other people chimed in and agreed, so for once i don’t feel like the oddball. do you need help setting up automatic bill pay or your 401(k)? susan, if someone doesn’t hold up an ideal, what is there to measure actual progress against? you took her innocuous comment out of context and used it as fodder for a personal rant against women. she was polite to them, but feeling no spark, she continued to date. it could have simply been a nervous slip of the tongue…”let’s all agree that we can project all we want to on this particular incident, but we are never going to figure out what actually happened, or what it meant because we weren’t inside this girl’s mind at the time she said what she said. you won’t motivate adult players not to get ‘tang.@ cooperyeah that’s pretty much i’ve been defaulting to. around this time last year, i was pulling 60-80 hour workweeks, but i still managed to carved out time for dates. first step imo is a trip to a primary physician.’s a sweetie pie, he would comment at hus if he lived now. i don’t doubt that you are right about what a modern ltr means in practice. is a book i remember looking at to give me an understanding of what my undergraduates were dealing with in some of the sororities: pledged: the secret life of sororities, by alexandra robbins. the flame is gone, girls will break up with guys without much concern over their feelings., i haven’t heard a woman say “second base” since 1970. i wouldn’t either if i didn’t talk to young women as much as i do. i would like to lick nipples of tom cruise no homo. but america does not have such a surplus of hot women with not enough men to go around. he was a crazed toddler and an extremely disorganized schoolboy. we went out with some other co-workers and they left earlier than we did and we realized we have incredible chemistry and stayed for a couple hours after they left talking and went on our first real date less than a week later. that actually piqued his interest instead of turning him off, as he prefers a more restricted nature. he had a son when he was 19 and the son just turned 19 about a week ago, making him 10 years younger than me and i'm 10 years younger than my boyfriend. she finds it funny when i wax on about some cool 80’s song, and i shake my head at her when she hears a 90’s song on the radio and talks about hs, because by then i was well into my 20’s. like somehow we men just missed the note that it is simply a matter of maturity. one of the other blacksmiths came in while he was there one day and told me if i batted my eyelashes at him he'd fall over. so for my part, i am not concentrating on only the sluts with the majority of my comments. but i’m very introverted, whereas you, susan, zach and several others here who say dating is fun are obviously extroverts! you agree that the chances he will succeed with them are slim, because, well, this does not matter what he thinks he is and indeed it does not matter whether he indeed is more valuable when he was 28, because he won’t get much chances to show that to girls in the range he desires? you stay with your girlfriend, and marry her, hoping such a thing never happens again? in her case, it meant that we were to drive her everywhere (never had a drivers license), cook for her (she was far too busy for that) and cater to her every whim. and, to be clear, “dating” doesn’t necessarily mean sex. one of those things that isn’t fun but can be managed. she may have taken off her top, but she hid her breasts. i’m 22 and it does occasionally happen that i meet a man in his 40s i find attractive. asks me out to dinner, but i’m not interested in him, so i thank him and decline. i would have had more fun in silicon valley, who knows.“i did have the power to re-arrange my curriculum at will and go on field trips with impunity, which was a perk.“at a certain point (pre-marrriage) loyalty is owed to the person your with. the issue of marriage doesn't come up- she's much more well off than i, and we've discussed not having children already, so there's no problems there. this burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile.“for others it’s a viable way to meet different people. you have to try different people on until you find one that is a great match. he said that there had always been some attraction that he had been able to push aside, but that it just fell on him like a ton of bricks one day.@susan:“i would never want a man to marry me because we’d been in an ltr together. we had shared both failures and triumps at work together and sort of bonded over that. hypergamy is hypergamy, i know, but its “g factor” cannot be quite so possibly attuned as to draw so many women to such a tiny subset of men. i know that as that type of girl, a guy like zach would not be someone i’d think about marrying. then she said all she could think about was the eighth grade term “sloppy seconds” and if i was going to tell my friends we went to second base. i swear more often than not it seems like i magically appear in the parking lot outside my office every morning, because i drive on autopilot and spend the drive listening to talk radio, or picking through the tangle of thoughts rolling around my noggin. one of the 23 year old women i know dating a guy ten years older thought he was 26 or so when they met. also, as you may have already noticed, a lot of guys don’t really consider fashion (or pr, the other great nyc female employer) a real “career” per se. perhaps he is not racist at all, but whoever taught him to speak is. goldload more comments (1 reply)load more comments (2 replies)load more comments (5 replies)[–]dramboxf 90 points91 points92 points 1 year ago (10 children)my wife is 10 years older than i am, and turns 60 this year. gold[–]manypuppies 22 points23 points24 points 1 year ago (5 children)he straight up told me if i left any pets behind he would slit their throats., to reiterate, i am not suggesting that women stop dating guys their own age. i dance to free bird and stairway to heaven with tommy b. i have several good guy friends from school but “out of touch, out of mind” as they continue to party while i am already settled into my job. she reported that whenever she went out, cocktail waitresses delivered drinks to her, courtesy of men in the 40-50 range. regarding my age, sure, i don’t talk to a lot of 21 y/o chicks but so what. there is a point to be made that deti is sort of touching on. your wife was not your first gf – did you “consume” your first gf and take advantage of her, lowering her value because you were with her during college? she was a freshman and got played by a cad, she was devastated., my point is that if i met someone great, i would give up the selfishness.@olive:“the other dumped her bf of 2 1/2 years when she went abroad because she wanted to hook up with foreign guys, and was extremely pissed to find out he had a new gf when she came back (as she’d expected him to wait around). instance, i am genuinely sympathetic to hope and almost any person that would have hurtful things said to them. – “well, other than the part about moving solely based on job location (i think you must give real thought to family location etc. do they want to stay in the city forever, or get a house in the burbs at some point? years younger maximized men’s lifetime reproductive success—in other words, the number of offspring surviving to age 18. because he just got a sweet offer from ubs and you got one from procter & gamble. if you really want my take on faith and heaven, it is far more complicated. is kind’ve why people who do it when they don’t have to are probably better bets for times when they should. (and it is one of the reasons i abandoned the church, though not nearly the main one…) and criminalize abortion? 😉i heard “inner attorney” and what comes to mind is “sharpen your knives!?are you being completely serious, or are you being a little silly?’m sorry deti, but i really think you’ve gone off the rails here. it wasn’t until their first date that they found out each was off by a few years. he’s more like a badass vox beta who becomes a complete beta orbiter to her. yes, he is physically repulsive, but it’s so much more than that! (or are supremely annoyed by anything that is not concrete and tethered to earth). ltr is simply an agreement between two people that they are enjoying each other’s company so much that they want to take the relationship to the next level and see how things go when they’re more serious. my first wife and i got divorced i spent a number of hours in a local health spy. the median age at marriage for a college educated woman is 30. likewise with marrying women they aren’t sexually attracted to. believe the term of art in this situation is “negress.) yet is less fire-n-brimstone (and definitely much more erudite) than many –i’d say most– branches of christianity. you can laugh now, but it was scary at the time! 😉 haha do you want me to send you a full-size picture? a large cohort of women don’t have anything to do with the carousel. we definitely still have that spark, which people say is supposed to disappear after a few years, especially after you have a baby. it will always be easier for him to find a wife next year than this year, so why rush?)i know a lot of people in general who have requested counselling to do with stress for a multitude of reasons and the departments are simply way understaffed. you had some cute, older football player pining for you when you were in junior high and you are saying that you did not get attention until college? srsly, i never give a compliment i don’t mean.”the point is that you can decided to break up with your wife (who had your children) for gaining 10 lbs. we met in college; i was there for dual enrollment my senior year of high school and he was just back from 7 years in the military. i was born into a wealthy family (my parents are anti high consumption though)., i did ask you a question a few threads back that you never answered, so, i will ask it again:oh man, ramble, if you are going to talk about how much you long for women to get dumped if they gain 5 lbs…whoa. i know our culture has tons of sex, but think both men and women long for a bit of romance, from time to time. she has even managed to do a moderate amount of good. 😎ps: this was my dress:@j“i believe the term of art in this situation is “negress. stop paying your mortgage, amass as much money as you can, and leave. i’m almost 26, and i have little interest in dating a 22 yo girl 6 months out of college. i was, at the time, sort of a big deal in that weird little world of usenet fanfic groups. she had two grown children when we met (16 & 20) and i'm now the proud grandfather of 3 granddaughters. are you really saying zero men and women followed a purely serial strategy? it’s soo out of my nature because i’m not a touchy-feely type of person with people i don’t know well. it’s because my daughter has a party tomorrow i got confused. would you like to play yourself in the hus movie? and i have lots of friends who envy the fact that my time is all my own—but that’s because they have kids. most of the older guys are either players or looking for a wife, whereas a younger guy is probably more likely to share her timeline. need to add the other two women i forgot about, the reason being:lesbianism (with cheating – don’t worry, he remarried)/lesbianism (without cheating – don’t worry, it was so, so obvious).. i would hardly say i wove a trap for him, and i’m pretty offended you think so. they want women who are pleasant, loyal and who want to fuck them silly on a regular basis. the demand curve does drop off sharply, from the perspective of the woman in her early to mid 20s. men have a chance to develop these kinds of skills . goldload more comments (1 reply)load more comments (8 replies)[+][deleted] 1 year ago (18 children)[deleted]. will always be easier for him to find a wife next year than this year, so why rush?“just asking you to not tar all of us with the same brush. she deserved my loyalty long before we were married and long before we were engaged. i was extremely uncomfortable, even as my friends were squeezing my hands and blinking back tears. just hooked up with a guy:He fucked me at the frat house after beer pong. but a good family background is an attraction cue to me the same way lustrous hair or a good hip/waist ratio is to a man. an ltr should span at least a few years, and i consider them the ramp up to marriagecrap. don’t see the reason to wait for a guy to become a better catch if he is generally a good guy, has graduated college and is willing to have a relationship now. the age of the man isn’t necessarily mutually exclusive with the child being provided for, whether it’s through energy (younger dad) or resources (older dad). being said, lets say i give him my number, he texts (men really don’t seem to call these days) and we set up a meeting, maybe drinks at first., here’s the question: you just found out that she is pregnant with his baby and she is due about 9 months after he proposed…basically, they started fucking like bunnies, without protection, right after he proposed. he wanted the wafer thin model types he was used to from manhattan.. i might get flamed for this, but i’ll say it anyway. either they become obsessed with materialism and moolah, or else they become profoundly generous. even people with worst diseases manage to work around them.: “the son of a bitch cheated on and then later dumped laura ingalls. because i was so busy interning and getting my career together in college, the whole college scene wasn’t so much my thing and i didn’t see many of the guys i went to school in a romantic light.@ ted di’ve always been amazed that people do not realize how rare it is that i spend time with them, because most people will spend time with just about anyone. it’s the fact that women interested in marriage already practice the post’s advice., were they getting the social life that you described as typical and common or were they getting something fairly different? in most cases this would drive away women that had initially shown interest but in some cases it made them fall hard and then enter excessive pickiness. all of the men in her past were not the clingy type, and in fact most were rather the opposite. gold[–]adventuresofthemurr 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (9 children)we're almost in the same boat! in the words of leonardo da vinci:“i have been impressed with the urgency of doing. as zach said, three dates has become the functional norm by which sexual chemistry needs to be validated, hence this woman’s risk of being summarily dismissed by a young man with many other options available to him. would any woman want to cover up great looking breasts? and the “something else to the table” has never been more difficult for a man to establish and maintain., jackie, to be clear, i am not looking or hoping to see girls be mistreated or hurt in pop culture or in real life. guess if i don’t really like them from the get go, i shouldn’t even give them a shot? i’m 39 and i’m dating another 39 year old and a 42 year old and i find them both attractive and sexy. tyrion has retained empathy in the face of horrific abuse and a kind of integrity.) the true self doesn’t mind having others know about and acknowledge its accomplishments, but is perfectly fine if such acknowledgment is never received. i called her roommate asked if i could drop of flowers/note when i knew she wasn’t there. i can still remember the days when i’d utter those words and essentially have an anxiety attack every time my phone buzzed and it was a guy my own age i’d been casually seeing. she’s throwing gasoline on that fire by breaking bad on a guy like ron perelman because he’s unattractive. the 52 year old who wants a woman in her 20s should get out there and see what he’s got., i definitely feel for you and the mean things that were said to you. we just went away for a weekend and got a pet sitter for the animals. she obviously does, and it’s seen as a mark of immaturity. bf and i own the game now, but we don’t get to play much, since you need three people and all. though i have to admire the both of you for really giving it a chance. a smoking hot 29 year old single mom has been trying to lock me down for the better part of a year. i didn’t realize that i had a vitamin d deficiency, caused by too many months of no sunlight.., explaining what inexplicably popped into her head about the junior high), i’m feeling a bit sheepish. of throneswe just finished a “black friday” event at the humane society, where we are trying to adopt out as many animals as we can. you see, on many ways we are working towards the same goal. had a massive crush on me but he thought he was playing it cool. i have never, never “dated for fun” in my entire life. i kind of feed off of the energy, and i focus on swaying my hips and gliding effortlessly (almost slithering snakelike). she enjoyed living in her “big city/sophisticated” environment, and liked the excitement of all the men she was dating. my morning commute is 15 minutes (20 if i hit the lights wrong) and mostly all back roads. now he’s dating once more with an eye toward finding a gf. i am down with this, and i’m down with susan’s goal. it's also a little different when you end up with someone who has a kid, but i've always believed that if you love someone, you need to love everything that they are, including their kids. and then if all of a sudden it’s mutual love, where do you go from that? there are men who say all sorts of things about asian features. was polite to him after that, but i definitely tried to extricate myself out of the situation., this morning as he left the house he said, “can’t wait to spend the weekend together! he moved back in with his mom and continues to have no job.@ susanthe good news is that most women are not looking at older guys – as i said in the op i have witnessed real resistance to this. naked women aren’t so bad to look at, especially the ones on got. gold[–]damn_dog_inappropes 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)my husband is 11 years older than me. we got engaged a year ago and everything is amazing. you see if you like each other over a few weeks, months, whatever. i’m wondering if the reason many of you seem to think that “getting to know someone” takes months is because you all just like too damn many people.. i am not running anyone except ron perelman down, whom i consider to be a bad man. every divorced man out there has an ex wife who has said things like this about him. celeb examples can help to bolster one’s point but its meaningless in the face of opposing statistical and scientific evidence. 25 year old inexperienced virgin dude and a 35 year old mother with an 11 year old daughter. gold[–]to_the_pillow_zone 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)you are the first person whose feelings echo my own so closely. don’t see too many tropes of marrying the middle-class guy and living “frugally ever after” ha ha! that is not to say that if i met the right person tomorrow, i wouldn’t get into a serious relationship. again, i only actually am caring about this because he was a higher caliber than the majority of guys i meet. ok cupid is a young demographic, so the chart primarily shows who is attractive to young people. while i recognize his pain, i also recognize that similar comments irl will get you committed. has, or had, one of the most diverse economies in the nation with one of the strongest small business bases. he’s far from ugly, to the point where i ascribe anyone calling him such to a negative halo effect from the scandal, or maybe it’s just the okcupid effect in play (80% of all men are below average, right)holly was never a beauty queen but she at least looked acceptable in her youth.@intjlet me know what you think as you watch it. you learn a great deal more about a person after you take the relationship to the next level. are older guys who think that they can continue to be attractive to very young women into their 60s as long as they work out. to be frank, it never even occurred to me that it was unfair to use someone else as my emotional control valve. i keep a long and polite distance from all males. the median doesn’t tell us much about trending male attitudes though – we’re most interested in what young men do. might sound silly, but i really never put much thought into individual people throughout my life, and it’s taken me far longer than most to understand that although we are all human, we have as many or more differences between us than things we share in common, especially when it comes to personality and character. i think you are where i was about a year ago (i graduated young too, i’m 23 now). basically, she stopped going to school for a semester, i think that leaving home and going to a far away campus fucked her up (this happened to a few girls i knew, one became so focused on health and exercise that she lost so much bodyfat and stopped getting her period…her parents pulled her out of school [she, literally, had a 4. she may be viewing him through the prudish lens, but guys here have certainly criticized women for being slutty and viewed women via a prudish lens. i didn’t feel chemistry with my boyfriend on our first few dates, and neither did he, but we gave each other a chance and a year later, here we are.@susan“of course, but i’m afraid you’re shooting the messenger. that guy didn’t even let me come up for air.”a young guy, in fact no man, can ever win against “better. my experience is that the guy will stay in the bad ltr, but only until he finds his next jumpoff girl, so as to not interrupt the steady sex supply. granted, my profession involves a lot of technical problem solving so that also adds to the (mental) exhaustion. you can feel it– the love shines out from them like a diamond. men don’t usually do things unless they see a compelling reason. if we don’t meet anyone appropriate in that period, cynicism sets in. the best way to do this, in addition to online dating, is through work, social circles and activities. the same is true for me with his friends—i get bored sometimes hanging out with his friends’ girlfriends and wives. if even restricted woman “dip their toes” into the unrestricted pool on occasion, then the terms are practically useless other than to predict someone’s general disposition. – “when, through pc, society stops expressing judgement, that’s when everything heads round the u-bend. thing id like to add, which i call the “rob lowe” syndrome. i was more than comfortable enough to be with her, but nowhere near ready to expose myself that way with her.@just1zthe aunt spent 14 years working for och-ziff and had just taken a temporary “retirement” to do more traveling. i had a horrible experience with sex in the past so i’m a bit conservative on that front.’s like susan using the word ‘rigid’ to describe me, yesterday. or should you end your relationship and explore a relationship with the woman at work? he has purchased various wives but money can’t buy love (or tingle). like these are also a big part of why there is anger and hostility in the ‘sphere; and why many men don’t see susan and this blog as allies. was a poor eater, a poor sleeper, hyper alert, clingy, and extremely anxious when separated from me. could probably insert some bullshit about how my mother never hugged me here and that caused this over sensitivity but who knows. as i hit 28+, women my age became invisible to me. these were working class women who would all be crowding 90 if they were still around, and they knew of breech of promise as a legal option, not a literary trope. the only thing that can be weird is that i sometimes get carded when we are out (28 but apparently look young). i’m an introvert who’s still trying to get used to getting attention from men. when i was 18, i did not feel mature enough to be dating a man in his upper 20s or 30s.’s situation makes me think of something: i wonder if, much like girls who road the carousel have issues when they try to lock it down with a restricted guy, guys who played the unrestricted game struggle when it comes to getting with a restricted girl., the woman’s “bride price” goes down if she’s not a virgin when she does marry., the manosphere is so toxic that my husband asked me specifically to stop reading it in the first year that we were together. they may mature from liking bad boys in high school to selecting for character in college. cappy cap doesn’t rely on optimism, more ‘why not try something else, what’s the worst that could happen?”+1i’m not gonna call it abnormal as i know some people like that. sexual conservatism was not lauded; on the contrary, it was generally considered an indicator of either past (probably medicated) trauma, flakiness, or, god forbid, a provincial/rustic upbringing. male maturitypower and money is perceptually alpha for women gold-diggers and whores.’t forget the guy you canned for being dumb enough to fail your shit test and stay up all night doing whatever it was (or maybe that was junior high).“i would never want a man to marry me because we’d been in an ltr together. or is it the dtf, sex-kitten, she is going to explode all over my cock the second we meet even though she was a blushing virgin her entire life up to that point that is the fairy tale? than that, i love my dad so much, have a great relationship with him (there were some rocky times in my late childhood/early teen years, that's a combo of me going through puberty and my dad being.“but guys here have certainly criticized women for being slutty and viewed women via a prudish lens”well, that doesn’t include me. want fun and that butterfly feeling, and you can get it, but to do so you are either going to break some poor guy’s heart or else fall for a player or players.’s clear from your commentary that you want women to be very restricted, in behavior, attitude and desire. as a very restricted person, i’m constantly shocked at how quickly some people feel comfortable getting naked with someone new”you must not consume large quantities of alcohol…. rollo says women are natural plate-spinners and that doesn’t mean they’re fucking all in parallel. and that’s an important point – the attraction to dad traits is real, not some form of giving up and settling for meh in a husband.” the new rule seems to be “as long as i’m not sure he’s definitely not the one, i might as well stay with him” no matter what his thinking might be. when she finally had the appointment, the psychologist asked about her problems and then said that the hookup scene was the number one reason kids gave for feeling depressed at school. most societies have strict rules or norms around age differences, and also when a woman is fair game for seduction. women who were more willing to “put some skin in the game” or “cowgirl up” were considered true nyc badass women. this sounds like some terrible virtual reality robot who has been programmed to speak by people who have never bothered to learn english! if i’m your girlfriend, i want you to end it with me. we tell each other “i miss you” when we’re at work a lot, too, even though we see each other every day. in both of these cases, the guys were really great, and totally in love with my friends. despite their age, though, they have little experience communicating and negotiating relationships!“for every year older a man is past a certain age (his physical peak of 28? then our palpable chemistry evolved into some kind of commitment, which we each acknowledged might screw up a good thing. young women know they have sexual power over unavailable middle-aged men, and they relish it. mostly because i’m not sure that really works that well. it is about comfort, not excitement for me at least. we ended up with 35 extra dogs here for the night (mostly puppies). she may be viewing him through the prudish lens, but guys here have certainly criticized women for being slutty and viewed women via a prudish lens.@lokland:“as for meeting someone better = end relationship, face palm. real motivation for cutting things off is that these men don’t want to waste time with the wrong person before it evolves into something more serious. (whom she hs known since childhood) and even though she is not a virgin, she still covers her breasts after taking off her shirt. the history is fascinating, but it has for 70 years been about making films. we have been together for three and a half years this month and i proposed to her a few days after this last christmas."don't make your man feel older than he actually is (or date yourself). when you get older, you realize that men who insist on dating younger women, often do so b/c they're less likely to notice the bullshit. i’m certainly not thinking in my head, “oh you are just boyfriend number one of x amount,” if i really do like them, of course i would fantasize a bit about our future.!By butterflies, i didn’t mean the excitement of omg they texted.: the “dating scene” strikes me as a bit… i dunno. xdmoving east was the best thing that ever happened to me – i didn’t have to compete with california girls anymore. he taught and tutored my aunt when she was in college.’m also an activist for not being an easily offended lil prig who can’t be told their wrong/disliked/mocked. for a 10+ year age gap, it is a big deal to a female in her late teens to mid-twenties…not so big a problem from that point on. he also spent a lot of time lifting weights in his garage a la chris cooper in american beauty. i just found “acceptable” to be an understatement when talking about someone that “a lot of college guys today would love to find but can’t”. the only thing missing is yelling “get off mah lawn!”how can we appropriately argue with charlotte over semantics if we can’t project things onto her that she never actually said and didn’t actually mean?” everyone in the group was expected to memorize these pronouns and use them throughout the three day program. also offered a lot of socialization from other people, especially those were marginalized by society. i'm a 25year old male, my girlfriend is 14 years older than me. and a woman deserves to have a husband who sees her as a hot, younger chick, and not someone who he may want to “trade in”.@susanare you really missing the point on why guys go on dates? i assure you that i can put many evangelical preachers to shame when it comes to fiery speeches about sin, evil, and eternal damnation, and i’m not all that invested in the religious aspects at all. in the 3 years we’ve been together, he got an apartment, graduated, got a good job, signed for the mortgage on the house, and became a father. i will admit that it does seem a little pathetic to be 40 in a dance club full of 20s somethings sweating a 22 yo for her number, im just saying. there’s the whole possibility that i might never have existed if my parents had thought the same thing (though i was born in the ’80s, probably before this stuff was available… mwahaha you can’t get rid of me) but i’ve always sort of had the thought that just because a particular sperm/egg combo never becomes a full grown baby doesn’t mean that soul won’t be born as another sperm/egg combo. even the high-level courses bored the crap out of me and i couldn’t help feeling contempt for my fellow students that fumbled even the simplest concepts. we had a relationship that went from good work friends, to real-life friends, to flirting, to "holy shit we're attracted to each other.’m looking at this more from a single/partnered with no kids kinda scenario, so i wasn’t really considering how much of an advantage having family nearby is with kids, despite the fact that i’ve enjoyed those advantages all of my married life.” ie-realize the environment has changed and adapt to it mentally and physically (becuase you have no other choice). marriage is a public proclamation of the commitment *already* in my heart, not a straight-jacket to force her or the other into compliance. just thought i'd throw this out there, even though this really doesn't contribute very much to the question. in hs there are plenty of 9 and 10 grade women with bf’s or suitors from the 11/12 grades. ”well, your and my version of overweight probably differed from his.“and speaking as someone who fell hard for a guy, only to discover later that he lied about me giving him a blowjob at a party, no, i don’t think it’s fucking immature to wonder how a guy might act once you’re out of sight. he's far more outgoing and active than me which is nice and he fits right in with my friends and family. i had she-cousin which was 30 at the time i saw her first time and frankly, if i wouldn’t be married, i would go straight for her. so, to most of the world i’m a cold and emotionless robot. committing before a trial period, aka dating, is likely to lead to divorce. the point is that women should expand their options, and dating men your own age or even younger is smart, provided they are looking for the same things you are. changing your environment will at least get you out of the environment where you thought it was hopeless.: “the manosphere is so toxic that my husband asked me specifically to stop reading it”i had to stop reading them because i was allowing it to affect how i viewed my husband. apparently gave some epic shit test to some guy when you were 14. the man knows who he is and what he wants. that being said, my time with her has been so educational, i find myself able to blend in and act appropriately in a way far beyond my years. imagine the opposite sex scenario, with “hey pretty boy” replaced by “hey good-looking.”i think everyone with half a brain cell is able to comprehend dating.@intjobviously charles manson is an extreme example, but it’s absolutely true. haven’t spoken to a single young man in the last four years who wants to marry before his late 20s at the earliest. starts showing me constellations, then leans over and kisses me. most people i know plan on living in a city (not necessarily nyc) for work for at least a few years after college, and then moving back out there when they settle down a bit more. gold[–]ahm_an_ahlehphahnt 15 points16 points17 points 1 year ago (6 children)holy crap that's absolutely horrid behaviour. ha, i got friends smugglers, drug-dealers, thiefs, future lawyers, future doctors, and everything in between :). olive talks about her uncle and aunt’s 25-30 age gap, saying that they are very happy, it always makes me very sad. whether it is because she is “overly” vulnerable, protecting herself from past mistakes, or zach did not create enough comfort, or she is simply prudish, she is most likely protecting herself. but i don’t sit around with a huge sign that says repent while there’s still time!’m not picking on your here susan, but you have been pretty honest about your past, and imo it serves as a great example of my confusion: you claim to be restricted, yet you still have some “unrestricted” behavior in your past. my husband puts emotions before sex, too, and we fit very well together because of that.’s a shame, because i believe you have a lot of knowledge and wisdom to contribute, especially as an older person (i miss munson so much 🙁 ). have to say that i find this aspect of american culture to be the most backward and twisted. you are a weirdo like me, you can make it a game and give yourself points. guys are always on about how women need to value their sexuality. i’m having a hard time seeing why you’d accuse me of trapping this man. it is wrong for the woman to not pursue marriage with an older man merely for age differences. okay, now going to trash talk khaleesi, she let the witch turn him into a vegetable and kill their baby. i’m talking about any woman that has behaved in a slutty manner at all, regardless of their actual inclinations.@susan:“again, to reiterate, i am not suggesting that women stop dating guys their own age. as you may have guessed, i am always interested in how the other half lives. perhaps its just that he has spent several years plowing through the “hotter, younger, tighter” women, so he won’t miss out on anything when he prioritizes the older women now.@passer byand the reward is something that’s supposed to come when he’s thirty.@j:“in america, prior to about 1950, it was possible to sue and/or jail a man for “breech of promise” in the circumstances described in the article you linked. women need to filter on the right things, not arbitrary concerns. she was positively smokin’ hot in the big easy and sea of love. i know one woman in her mid 20’s who shackled up with her first serious boyfriend, first guy she had sex with, and she made it clear she’d only sleep with the guy if he moved in with her and played his role as a co-habitation couple. what is seen here more often than not is how i feel about the female side of the equation, but rest assured i have plenty to say about the male side as well. my reply is, okay, so what tangible results do you have to show for your efforts? i was always under the impression that university is the place where smart people are and thus the social hierarchy is much better for smart and studious guys. would have had a civil marriage, then have a church service for the blessing of a civil marriage according to the book of common prayer (episcopal church). because, without context it just seems like you found out upfront. only that real spark is going to see you through 25+ years. realize that this post marginalizes the coopers and the kendras. my carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. most of my coworkers are ~40 so i get shit sometimes about how me so isn't old enough to go to the bar yet. are two possible situations here, one in which the girl was nervous and restricted, one in which she was being juvenile, neither of which we can tell because this is like a law school exam where they give you facts that can be interpreted in different ways and then you spend your time listing all the ways they go together given different assumptions not in evidence in the fact pattern. hus from the time we got together – i knew i wanted to have his babies – but if he had had doubts, i would have refused marriage. i still say she might really come alive with the right guy, but i don’t think she and zach are a match.@ jimmy hendricksbut for a girl with serious gf/wife potential? i’m not quite there, but so far it seems as though things are just as interesting and unpredictable as they were in previous decades. most guys i know think that way as well, but plenty of girls i know have said they could make out for hours with nothing else. all men in their 50`s have lost strength or stamina. she was seen more an aging carousel rider who was willing to put out; a temporary girlfriend (if at all) for a pump and dump.: ” this ties in with some of what i felt when i was that age, and it reminds me of something we spoke of earlier, of being teenagers and having grown men hit on us. apparently in those days friend-zoning or dumping wasn’t enough punishment for nice guys. younger, more attractive women will refuse to reward men that take the high road and invest in themselves, then that behavior will simply be bred out of men.. my initial thought was “what the hell is a girl like that doing living in nyc and hanging out with guys like zach? he responds, and from there, the energy is just more comfortable., last question on the subject, i promise…so, you remember seeing some unattractive couples, but, did you see the girls from the left side of the bell curve out on friday and saturday nights, at the phi sigma parties, dating different guys, or were they finding a similar smv mate and attaching themselves?[–]imanauthority 39 points40 points41 points 1 year ago (0 children)that kid's gonna be the size of a zeppelin before he walks at grad. (otoh, plenty of people can think themselves “middle”, but have an n multiple times the median.”actually, we’re explaining the reasons behind her emotional “stunted-ness”. as a result, women lose the opportunity of choosing more attractive mates. instead of trying to force things, i think that he should find a woman that feels comfortable moving at his speed. goldload more comments (1 reply)[–]stonetape 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago* (0 children)my boyfriend is 16 years older than me, we met as coworkers several years ago but only recently started dating. i asked him to stay awake until he heard freda payne’s band of gold on the radio. i hope he has what it takes to get the type of woman he wants.”it isn’t bad enough i get constantly tl;dr’ed here, but now you gonna go and delete hus emails without reading them too? the nighttime scene there was very different than what she was used to. she knows she does not want a ltr right now, then she absolutely should not be accepting lots of dinners and other nights out with men picking up the check–unless she wants to reciprocate with sex, which is sort of sleazy but fair in its way. been in a top end wow guild for awhile (as in, top 50 in the us for progression) the amount of social maneuvering involved for the best loot and raid spots puts most corporations to shame. i was in my teens and twenties, i would date women around my age. i would wager that the average length of an ltr from age 18-28 is well under a year. the people making the most money in this tech industry are the steve jobs types that started working with computers before they reached puberty. in fact, i’d say i treated him a good deal of dignity which he seemed to appreciate. i took david buss’s class and he even said women look for ambition and income potential in men and invest in him. thought you were getting hit on by men when you were babysitting and that you never hurt for attention and that not one girl in your sorority was below a 6. to mention the fact that his compliment is backhanded and patronizing. i was about your age when i first got married and the births of my sons bracketed my 40th birthday. once the baby arrived, i would have wanted the service for the blessing of a family upon the birth of a child (also in the prayer book), and then done the baptism at a later date…. and the reward is something that’s supposed to come when he’s thirty. fewer options for him may mean some flexibility if the right girl comes along.”neither, you stay with her and try to work it out, because temptation is always going to come along like that, married or not.”i think that you’ve promised them that you are going to rip out their heart at some point. sexual desire increases, and a woman who is not attracted to her partner will fantasize about extra-pair sex. i guess evolutionarily, getting people to like sex and “tricking” them into having kids was more effective than them proactively wanting to have kids and going about it.

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  • @susanlive nearby for the moment and my roots are from this area. as in, i would feel absolutely terrible if they were sure i was the person for them and i was more interested in succeeding in my career at the moment. i’ve seen nothing in the general philosophy of this blog that suggests to me that susan supports “looks-ism.,Yeah i’ve heard mixed reviews about the peace corps. no longer was able to choose from the california girls. agree that there is also the question of what you talk about when you’re a generation apart, but i get the sense that most couples with that big an age difference have different incentives driving them. i was extremely uncomfortable, even as my friends were squeezing my hands and blinking back tears. i’ve dated a few girls that over time by accepting her as she was and getting her to tell me her fantasies she gradually opened up and got to be more flirty and naughtily flirty but at first were more closed off and demure.@jp“come to think of it, being the son of the superintendent was an asset to my dating experiences in high school.@susan:“even marriage does not prevent some people from leaving when they meet someone they like better. if i didn’t have kids, i’d have left years ago. dos and don'ts of dating an older manby melissa melmsmarch 29, 2012 5:30 amare you dating an older fellow or thinking about dipping your toes into that more mature water? you’ve said it yourself, sex without any emotional connection isn’t satisfying, so why are you concerned that you haven’t poked her yet? it was too gooey/mushy for my taste, and i told him so repeatedly before he slowly stopped doing it. haha do you want me to send you a full-size picture? 🙂sensuality in my opinion should be as unique as your own personality. i guess i wasn’t clear in how i stated myself. i guess that’s the norm these days, as dysfunctional as it sounds to us. morality means i always weigh the benefits of my friend getting laid with the downsides of the girl getting hurt.”idealistically, i can never offer more than a future cooper. better for a moment, we need not judge who is “better. gregory peck attended our church (he actually went to mass every day. nothing is set in stone (as in, i don’t even know if i’m having kids yet), but it’d be nice to offer my hypothetical children a similar experience. think it’s fair to say that women are always one step ahead of us when it comes to what we really want (males and females). his fiancee (now wife) was in stage iii cancer the last time i heard. if after ten minutes or so, it hasn’t gone anywhere else, it’s just kind of a big tease. and i said before, when i was 21 my grandfather told me that he was relieved i didn’t turn out gay, because my mother and grandmother coddled me too much. it was because he said it almost every time that he saw me., it seems to me that, usually, the pro/con ratio of asian women and the features is usually pretty positive, sometimes to the point of fetishization. and despite the fact that i do not personally see my family often, i do appriciate that my kids get to spend a good bit of time with my mother and extended family. i know what i am attracted to, and the types of people i like, but through more dating you find things out about yourself and more preferences to lead you to the person you really should be with, who is most compatible. but i can also see that there is some kernals of truth in the “wife cheats the most during ovulation” just based on observations of my own wife..weeping for my childhood self was the most cathartic experience i have ever had. the more i focused on “i can do this” the more i saw other stuff i could do. · 1409 comments [serious]what do you consider a huge waste of time? and women leave college at 22-23, so that means the man will be 28 before he’s become truly proficient in a non-trivial skill learned there – not just competent, proficient. my roommate (who is one of my good friends) also works in fashion (i promise we are not idiotic ditzes) so there is no connection to straight men there.”*raises eyebrow*i’m an active activist (double positives work in english right? i think she's just using you for free rent man! the only thing missing is yelling “get off mah lawn! is it that younger women started to question your views? i remember reading in an interview that his wife runs everything in his life, and he is more than ok with that. most people i know plan on living in a city (not necessarily nyc) for work for at least a few years after college, and then moving back out there when they settle down a bit more. and she though my first “performance” issues were due to having to use condoms. howard marshall (born 1905), rupert murdoch (born 1931) and wendy deng (born 1968). accusations that we keep focusing on the worst females possible is untrue. so it is not tied into attractiveness, but rather the desire to find a long-term relationship. no one thought it was odd then but such a movie couldn’t be made today because the premise would be so absurd. was always complaining that the women in west la were too heavy (as compared with the model thin women in manhattan, i guess). woulda thunk the manbooz commentariat are a bunch of abrahamic religious zealots? i’m super busy with work right now so i wouldn’t even have time for something serious. she let me in and i put them on her pillow. an ltr should span at least a few years, and i consider them the ramp up to marriage. hours a day may be excessive but even just one hour/day is supposedly far, far above the average, yet i have no problem fitting that in with a full time career. russell confesses he hasn't dated since 1989 and jess replies, "that was the year i learned to use the toaster by myself., some days i think i might have sold myself short. a failed drug overdose sounds like a better method, if you are going to fail and change your mind. why i put myself through that shit, i don't think i will ever understand. but keep in mind: barkin is a respected stage and screen actress, married to one of the wealthiest men in the country. have you ever tried out some of my suggestions with men? gold[–]ziacom 12 points13 points14 points 1 year ago (1 child)a very expensive garden, eden is. i find it ironic, if this incident is true, that mark manson likes to talk about “authenticity” a lot.,i really dont want to be the first to chime in. there was this enormous 24-lb cat that was khal drogo and a dainty butterscotch named khaleesi; there was a cersei (who was, sorry to say, a huge witch) and a jaimie from the same litter (put in cages far away from each other! regardless of your stance on this matter the last line is wisdom that’s pretty hard to ignore. i think at this point we would start hanging out a bit more, and potentially becoming a couple. can’t tell you how many people referred to me as “gringa” in a complimentary way when i studied in mexico. but some of the points others have made are important. so that’s not a reason men would be more or less likely than women to do online dating.@ susanit is not true that to treat female depression “you just have to be a good listener. all the discussion that goes here about how most men are just looking for a girl to settle down with, even back in my dating years, looking overly anxious to marry scared men off. had that happen to one of my daughter’s friend’s families. primary reason that women tend to date older, i feel, is that for a man to achieve mastery in a given skill or profession it takes 10,000 hours/5 years, as it has been said. this is true for men – it is essential to filter out poor prospects.’ll go get the divorce papers then…or better,*ring, ring, ring‘hey mom. and i was only in it for the super long term, so…. 🙁 it’s fairly common among introverted, intuitive and intelligent types. people who believe themselves to be devout are generally merely sanctimonious. boys in this scenario was heavily skewed in one direction, from my large experience with board gaming of all sorts. i recall racing over to rancho park because they were filming my favorite show, the mod squad! they wound up feeling off limits to restricted guys and useless to unrestricted guys. this is difficult when doing the hard work to prepare yourself for that is quite often a huge negative for guys in terms of short term smv and social standing, and telling them they will be rewarded 15 years later with sloppy thirtieths is cold comfort. gold[–]colsonirl 65 points66 points67 points 1 year ago* (4 children)i'm 19 with a 74-year-old father, and i honestly can't relate. most still-single gals i’ve known spent those years either celibate or in ltrs, some of which they *didn’t* end themselves. a girl wants butterflies, with little seriousness, she’ll have to choose a guy who is looking for the same. i definitely need to find the balance between sensuality, femininity, and my introverted personality. they’re likely to be highly motivated to settle down compared to their bro competitors. not only that, it’s not as if anyone asked him to play. reserve the right to remove content or restrict users' posting privileges as necessary if it is deemed detrimental to the subreddit or to the experience of others., they were the “little sisters,” and i realized just how much they were expected to serve (and perhaps service? it was only weird briefly, to be honest, since i only found out several days after the first date how much older he was than me. don’t know if bringing up briffault’s law is verboten here or not, but in both cases, the woman is benefitting, just in different ways. you say it’s fine for a lot of young girls because they’re “sick of the bar scene”, and then accuse the men on it of “not being able to meet anyone” even though it’s easy to meet new people in nyc. put another way, if i’m talking to you for more than two or three “polite” conversation minutes, you’ve already passed my first blanket filter. assortative mating arises even though there are no complementarities between the skills of the two members of the couple, due to the public good aspect of children’s human capital, which generates increasing returns to skills in the household. to be frank, it never even occurred to me that it was unfair to use someone else as my emotional control valve. we were in a lego robotics class and ended up in the same group.@j:“we had shared both failures and triumps at work together and sort of bonded over that. now if i know the girl very well as well, i probably will just keep my mouth shut and not lie. if i let myself truly go unchecked, i’d be so emo i’d make myself want to throw up.:i think there may be a point underlying what you are saying, but you are making it poorly, imo. well, maybe tom, if i get a good clean shot at him. the weirdest thing is he introduced me to his ex wife and daughter (whose only 9 months younger than me). 🙂 reading here has helped me realize that most aren’t out doing casual and that has influenced my behavior to seek casual less.@ madisonkci have to second for sassy to keep giving sensuality tips!, can you not see that the disgust for rp is borne out of his awful treatment of others?@feelistyour gramps, god love him, is an outlier, but, what the hell, good for him!, it may be “typical and normal” but just because it worked out for you doesn’t mean it worked out for society or for most of the people in it. the more reason to stop shaming men in their 30s who are single.’m sure it was surprising and i agree, it is totally out of date, i just think it’s funny how if you change the phraseology by less than 1% it’s totally cutting edge hip pc even though to untrained ears it sounds almost exactly the same. a “malificent” thought from norma d would come to mind, i’d say (outloud) stop. the problem was not that she wanted to date a little first to get to know him and decide if an ltr was right, the problem is that she wanted him to be up for a pseudo ltr (after the first few dates), which was sort of on her schedule and at her option as to how long it goes (she needs to be “selfish” right now). the history is fascinating, but it has for 70 years been about making films. she referred to — and recoiled from — perelman’s physical attributes, not his character defects. no reason to suspect a woman who is a virgin at x point is an ice queen (30 maybe). own pattern went 1) meet guy in class or atparty 2) hope guy asks me to have coffee in student union/elsewhere 3) hope for date 4) date a few times 5) rinse and repeat. again, to me it is nothing more than an excuse. and later, when my wife got back to work and we decided that i will stay with baby three days a week (i got a work with no fixed hours, so i could do it) at one moment i seriously considered wearing pampers diapers 🙂@intj. namalt of course, but i’ve seen this situation play out quite a few times. if you have something you really love, i suggest you do a whole lot of it. it is not quintessential athat a guy make tons of money, but he needs to be passionate about what he does (to understand my passion for work) and ambitious. want women who are pleasant, loyal and who want to fuck them silly on a regular basis. doubt most people outside the east bay would get that reference. would not break up with my wife for gaining 10 pounds. i remember being quite amazed that my first bf liked me – i felt like i should turn around and see if he was actually talking to someone else. perhaps both groups serve (via self-interest, of course) as mechanisms for efficient price discovery…? alas, the tingles are destined for the dustbin at that time of day…women love men with mastery, and given that you were a partner, a high status position in society, my guess is that female fantasies about pinning you to the wall and exhausting you were occurring with rapid fire frequency. if she wasn’t grossed out by him at 25, why should she be grossed out by him now? she might be of high enough smv to pique their interest, but if she is seen as prudish because she is unwilling to put out by date 3 or 4, it will be the kiss of death. if someone is not skinny, they are basically being token-ized, and used as a “very special lesson” character. probably sounds like something i tell myself to make myself feel better, but hey, who’s to say it’s not at least possible?” weeping for my childhood self was the most cathartic experience i have ever had. now he’s dating once more with an eye toward finding a gf. again, this goes back to my point about women putting more priority on marriage and family before they start a career.@game of thrones fansi love fat, cowardly but good-hearted sam! it's never really been weird though there are moments when we want to do different things and we realise that one of us is either to old or to young to appreciate. firstly, it seems to demonstrate a default disgust-mediated inhibitory mechanism to female sexuality. she doesn’t have to have sex right away with him, but she could definitely learn how to seductively engage him in flirtation and “kino” to engage his senses without sex. i always found him incredibly handsome and sexy, even as atticus finch!@passer-by:” once the flame is gone, girls will break up with guys without much concern over their feelings. when you can get more girls interested from jump, you can get a girlfriend. i am sensetive on this point because i broke at least one heart in a similar way, even though i ended it reasonably close to the point i realized marriage was not going to happen. is why it’s so infuriating for men when they are told they “will get the last laugh” and that it’s a complement to be the marriage material. who’s been in a serious long-term relationship knows the journey isn’t without certain challenges., it is not lies that i am concerned with, but the prevailing narrative. i’m saying is, i bet you make a really great impression. she said one of the cool and surprising things about being with me is: she has learned more about who she really is in 3 years with me than she learned most of her life. i’d much rather be single than with an “eh” girl. 😛 i do, of course, try to keep up my looks. this is not a modern notion – it has been true ever since people began marrying for love. am interested in what is the modern narrative and what is acceptable (for instance, my interest in what advice might be “beyond the pale”) to say relative to that narrative. the unrestricted just want the restricted to leave them alone so they can be happily unrestricted. btw, 27 reads like the number 30 to me which is the kiss of death. completely understand that you did not like getting hit on by these fathers, but i am still trying to understand something. like escoffier, i don’t quite buy the argument that a man can have unmarried sex, but not women. a couple in an ltr might visit the other during a semester abroad. again, i could be completely missing the mark, but that is how it reads to me. either she isn’t confident in her body, or her body was naturally reacting in a frightened/reserved manner in front of zach. to how most 19 and 20 year old guys felt when you were that age and on top of the world.”yes, but then the fun ends a few years and the woman/man falls out of love and wanders off. the idea of committing to an ltr being the equivalent of marriage just makes no sense to me. things you should know before dating a girl in a wheelchair., i would have been quit willing to “trade up” to someone i was more interested in. i have always pictured myself being successful based on my hard work, not my marriage. he pulls out a knife and told me to get out.” the men i regard as alpha are much different than many of the definitions i’ve seen. in attempting to make yourself look highly intelligent, you’ve demonstrated that you can’t read as well as the common howler monkey”well, i think i read pretty well, but your prior post was poorly written (perish the thought). i’ve read that for every inch of height below a certain threshold, males need to have a certain increased annual salary to compensate. people will only give a crap about if you if you make *their* lives miserable – if you’re the quiet, withdrawn kind of depressive, you’ll just off yourself and nobody will even blink. people could make snarky anonymous comments on-line, but the feminine imperitive in our country would never allow it to be publicly stated, while susan’s reaction to perelman is completely accepted in the mainstream. he eventually found some girl to go home with; picking up women in clubs can be a numbers game. i have your blessing – thanks mate…i’ll let you know how i get on. to me, that isn’t such a bad deal, but i’m sure the “unrestricted” would disagree.)i am also trying to get the pseudo-christian pharisee blogger in there as a supporting character. it felt wierd and scary, as though a man who was so much older was deliberately targeting me because he might have felt i was young and naive (vulnerable, but not in a good way) and not mature enough to negotiate a relationship with a man so much older and experienced. my grandfather was very much the old school stoic “manly” man type. guess the thing is, ramble, i don’t expect either party to take anything from the encounter other than the giddiness of the moment. but a guy in his 40’s shooting for a 22yo woman is a pervert, and let’s not even talk about those 50+ guys!”ah, maybe that is because i tend to not over-exaggerate the effects of something, the way certain folks in the manosphere shriek every time a woman says something remotely “bad” about any man. at least in my perception, there’s a lot more tolernce for fringe opinion in the’sphere than there is in the democratic party..re charts from match, unfortunately they don’t have the same kind of nifty blog that okcupid does, so i don’t have access to that. sure, a 33 y/o woman can rail at the harsh tone and overall injustice of how over 30 women are on the receiving end of a blanket discount. ‘we’, the casual punters, only get to see the comments that susan lets through, so don’t know the full extent of what goes on. do not believe that most males would welcome this approach. my family lived in westwood, and i don’t think i ever saw an overweight person!.this has got to be one of the weirdest comments ever left here! well, even if she doesn’t, she is not normal, she is “thick”. tons of people (including my own parents) marry in their 30s and have amazing relationships. of raising them to be better people that the vast majority, there isn’t much i can do legally to fix any of this but bitch and complain. around this time last year, i was pulling 60-80 hour workweeks, but i still managed to carved out time for dates. she read one of my novels, ("els"), wrote me a fan email, which i answered. i guess you could go so far as to say that her outburst was a shit-test to find out what exactly zach is thinking about her, and what are his ultimate intentions.”i was in a production of godspell in hs, but for my voice, not my acting skills. always make me chuckle when guys on hus take these type of comments at face value. and i got to lead groups of hundreds of people on raids, which was far more interesting than anything i learned in college. i had a part time job and savings from my high school job (i worked at the local library my last year of high school) to pay for incidentals, food, clothes, utilities. now if i know the girl very well as well, i probably will just keep my mouth shut and not lie. he was meeting lot of girls and sleeping with lots of girls, but found it hard to find someone relationship worthy. people are children of god and should behave as such; the body is a temple. is more risk for the older woman beyond 30 to show any waffling. is not odd for someone to say it when you’ve been kept apart by circumstance longer than usual. charlotte may have lived just 2/3 of her unmarried life so far. it felt wierd and scary, as though a man who was so much older was deliberately targeting me because he might have felt i was young and naive (vulnerable, but not in a good way) and not mature enough to negotiate a relationship with a man so much older and experienced. had a brilliant takedown of players as being in complete opposition to christ’s teachings, and they didn’t like him either. i went and asked my prof before the exam if my answer was right and he looked at me like i was nuts…. think zach should focus his efforts on someone who is on the same sexual wavelength as he is. add to that the presumption that they spent their 20s aimlessly dating and/or sleeping around. when i first started dating my boyfriend, it threw me off when he didn’t text me, but—wait for it—called me instead. but i haven’t had a hard time dating and finding someone who is interested. not sure where san diego fits in there though – i’ve actually never been there – but i’d guess it can be lumped in with la.” most of these things will not be revealed in dates 3-6. didn’t that everyone out on the fringe is full of good ideas, but that the core of the mainstream is rarely where the good and interesting ideas come from. first of all, are men not allowed to be sick of the bar scene? the age difference compliments both of us, there's not really a negative aspect to it.. i’m also wondering why dan didn’t take my number himself. male adultery involves sex with someone else’s wife or betroved. i can recall numerous situations—work issues, arguments with people—that my boyfriend was able to help me with based on his own mistakes and victories. through nostalgic means or acting as if they are of an earlier age, many adults cling to a lifestyle that helps them emulate a time when they were younger.@intj, tedin susan’s defense, usually the claim in the manosphere is that the carouselers “settle” for the beta to whom they aren’t attracted, since they can’t snag the more wild types for commitment, but are always secretly hoping to trade up from him.“men display and women select, so your results must determine your strategy. it’s creepy for a 30-something year old guy to be with a 19yo, but we are still talking about a 11-12 year difference, and like i said, i don’t think me with a 29yo would be outrageous or “icky”. although the number of women who have committed sati since that date likely does not exceed forty (with thirty in rajasthan alone), an infinitesimal percentage of the female population, the reactivation of the practice has had considerable social and political impact, especially in the case of the “deorala affair”—the burning of a young rajput widow named rup kanwar in rajasthan in september 1987. my experiences ranged from one girl who was repulsed by my desire to make her my gf after a night of hooking up. can’t expect him to drop his life to chase your dreams. if they aren’t in front of me, they’ll tend to simply fall off my radar. i meant that as a friend i don’t know what to do to help a guy, whereas with a woman, i know what i can do: listen. and for the dumb, hot young woman who is, i suggest that she take her below average iq and work for a living.. making serveral “i’ll be right back” walks around the party, although i understand “the game” aspect, reeks of checking of what else is available. in general, there’s a stigma that a younger woman dates an older man because he’s more powerful and can essentially take care of her. you are absolutely correct, and the need to date and marry older is one of the logical consequences of the current smp. i’m always crawling all over my husband when we sleep. i welcome rollo to the debate, i believe he is genuinely interested in sharing ideas. the comic book writer, 35i definitely do worry about that. i’ve visited one or two of the most popular man-blogs and i quickly left after seeing a bunch of guys who claimed to be in their 80’s brag about moving to the phillipines, mexico, and the rural areas of china for ”real women.@j:“that may be pretty descriptive of the greek scene, but outside that scene i don’t think most girls date two guys and have have some romantic contact with two others in three weeks. it was quite strange to read all these avowedly devout people get angry at me for saying that the player lifestyle is immoral.“i’m wondering if the reason many of you seem to think that “getting to know someone” takes months is because you all just like too damn many people. going topless by date three is a long way from sex, and could easily fit into a restricted person’s comfort zone. remember, this was all arising out of that passage quoted above from the book about what she wanted to fuck when she was 20 and what she wanted to have come home to her when she 30. sometimes a parent will love the difficult child the very most of all. do i go after each of them with a pitchfork?@ charlotte, if you’re hesitant/reluctant to do online dating you can make an account and just browse profiles. probably was the most intelligent person in the (relatively small) class (and, given my stellar social skills, i expressed this concept), which didn’t help anything at all.”…fathers passed on nearly four times as many new mutations as mothers: on average, 55 versus 14. he was a poor eater, a poor sleeper, hyper alert, clingy, and extremely anxious when separated from me.] believe this stems from the fact that males are more likely to end their lives through effective violent means (guns, knives, hanging, etc.……………………………………………………i went to my favorite bar over the weekend, and this guy started chatting me up. i’m not just trying to get attention and have men want me. ”and i would never want to be in an ltr where the woman was not already in if not well on her way to in love with me.” the only guy who liked me was the drug addict who thought i was wholesome enough to save him. what we do not want is to wake up and find out our lock has been jimmied!@madisonkc“i don’t understand the whole waiting until a man is financially stable before entering relationships. and there isn’t a damn thing she can do about it. that means she is a very low risk for “oops it just happened” infidelity, and would not be easily tempted away by some guy like zach with high smv and tight game., there are reverse examples in society, such as naked parades, but that tends to be the exception, at least in american culture. one guy had remembered me from the voting line at the polling place three weeks ago; another guy supposedly had a convo with me in the summer about vacations (?. i wish more people saw it the way you do. privately, one-on-one, with the man i love, i’m a huge flirt. i am looking for a relationship but not something where i am their absolute everything. this would have saved me a ton of emotional turmoil. gold[–]thegoodsauce 21 points22 points23 points 1 year ago (0 children)classic schmosby. if someone is patting themselves on the back for their 1 year ‘ltr’. i was spunky, feisty, full of spirit, a perfect “mascot. a year is like a sneeze over the course of a lifetime. it pisses me off when anyone is all about oppressing one group of people for bad behavior but allowing another groups bad behavior to go unchecked. you haven’t yet had the pleasure…why we shit testwhy was that comment directed at me. gold[–]brandybuhhh 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (0 children)damn man, i hit feels reading that. id much rather date a guy 24-28 (upper limit 30) who is working on getting himself established than find and old(er) man that is already there.” however, there are plenty of sensitive guys out there that will be head over heels for a girl soon after meeting her (look, some girls really do have beautiful eyes and smiles, and we get transfixed) and they should know that it might be really important that mask their real feelings and pretend to be less interested than they really are.@jpi don’t know any lesbian themed divorces first hand, but am aware of several via friends. (don't be concerned that my parents aren't together, because no one has ever had a relationship as weird and on/off as theirs, and you sound way too genuine to be as narcissistic as my mom can be. she had her first kid at about 13 or 14, after 1 miscarriage earlier on. most people are marrying with a 3 year age gap give or take a few months..@ detiron perelaman is gross and there’s nothing wrong about stating that. that is, if i can go for months without talking to my best friend in the world, i can go for months without talking to or seeing my extended family. is the scene:monica: but you broke up with jennifer when she got fat. today at a shawarma joint: four women in their early twenties talking about men. i know that more men commit suicide than women, but i have absolutely no understanding of the particulars. the shit test post:“this led commenter dream puppy to share an example from her own married life, one where she lobbed a massive shit test at her husband””it would have been nice if i actually learned about this shit test thing when i was younger. i’d say there’s definitely a face lift there, maybe eye work as well. it was a lot of fun, i learned a lot about life and myself. i like whispering in a man’s ear, gently placing my hand on his thigh, tracing a man’s palm with my fingertips, speaking in a smoky seductive tone, and many other things.: “…i found the blog name “rational male” to be quite interesting. seriously, you could make a whole blog out of that. i’ve never seen suicide stats by personality type, but i bet there’s a difference in attempt rates and ‘success’.”no, i’m referring to *my* basic problem of outward directed perfectionism and how it has distinctly not helped me in the past. may be an outlier, but i don’t understand it either! the three of us shared that cream cheese and it tasted so good! i dont blame them for trying, they have a right to pursue what they want and i have a right to reject them. date was fine, but again the “sexy” problem reared its head. – “well, reading about you being perceived as emotionless in most settings but being quite romantic at heart hits home to me. if you’re a ‘1’ on 1-5 ss scale (as i was in high school), then a person who is a perfectly normal self-admitted 3 *seems* like they’re very promiscuous. 🙂susan has a lot of good stuff in the archives– look for the stuff under girl game and there are tons of helpful articles. either she knows someone he fucked, or, she knows she’s one in a long line. but women often scare men off if at 21 or 22, they are saying “you are the one i want to marry”yup. the reason i left the church is primarily because what they taught me is: i’m evil. gold[–]the_thylacine 61 points62 points63 points 1 year ago (0 children)i feel like i'm having a strange dream. am trying to imagine a situation where a racial qualifier in a compliment is somehow acceptable and am coming up goose egg. on the other hand, i have a great uncle, also with type i diabetes and he’s now 80 years old!”which means if things don’t get serious, then they aren’t the right person.” i think men also feel an anxiety when their friends are partnering off and having children. definitely still have that spark, which people say is supposed to disappear after a few years, especially after you have a baby. susan doesn’t want me around, she can ban me. as far as the average guy in his 40s and 50s getting gorgeous 22 year olds, thats pretty much a pipe dream. the men who prioritize “hotter, younger, tighter” to the exclusion of those things will be more likely to go as low as possible. you’re right that they do need to be qualified, perhaps moreso than younger guys. but i thought it was very odd i didn’t hear from them since they both seemed so interest and did all of the pursuing. – “ted, i’m going to keep being mean and picking on you!, i look at my neices in various stages of college. either get a girlfriend, or you just have fun – and by the latter i do not mean conversating and watching movies together. the “math” going forward for women could be: take the # of proms you attended (or were invited to) from hs yrs 9-12 and multiply by 5.“jp – yeah but you are literally sticking it to the “man” when you sue the fed.@ jackiei am surprised that sw’s bf or sassy’s suitors did not call you out for a duel!, the truth is, my “margin for error” on this issue is very, very, very slim. most of these things will not be revealed in dates 3-6. on top of that, given your interests, you need to go above and beyond your normal venues in order to meet a guy, much less guys you’re compatible with! in her mind, i was just hopeless and clueless–modest and restricted, from a very conservative family background. i actively think about my husband and look at his pictures/read our old conversations while he’s away. – “like the new avatar, but can’t help feeling that a funnier (slightly self-deprecating) version was available; don quixote (tilting at windmills? if after ten minutes or so, it hasn’t gone anywhere else, it’s just kind of a big tease. also conservative, doesn’t sleep with pretty much anyone until a couple months of dating. sometimes girls say they are open to a ltr, or even a permanent relationship, with a guy that “inspires” those feelings in them. as your friend’s buddy, your job is to help him get laid (or get the girl, whichever). think this girl’s mistake was to get herself into situations like that in the first place, which have a high probability of making her uncomfortable. what the manospherians here would say about a woman who did that! i get the feeling that he’s gone soft with age, but he looks better than most 60 year olds.” (deuteronomy 6:4-5) it reminded me so much of talmudic scholarship, and i loved learning that! or, as the ‘sphere likes to say: ignore what a woman says and watch what she does. maybe these women find him “ugly sexy” because of his outsized and dominant personality. are all missing the point that i have made five times already. every time there is an “end of men” article written by either a male or female they refer to guys gaming in the basement and refusing to grow up. i am confident that i know why girls shit test.”indeed, it goes both ways: a man must bring more to the table as he ages, just as a woman needs to., do you not get the sense she might be feeling that there’s sufficient chemistry, and escalation pace? while the extroverts have to spend tons of time figuring a person out, i spend a minimum amount of time filtering most people out from the gate, and then work on the few that make it through. we havent had a fight in the 10 years we've been together, small disagreements but nothing major.)anyway, to your point… i don’t believe she ever had any intention of being a “kept woman”. i hate just the idea of dating and plate spinning, and going out with different guys in one week. imo, three year gap in hs seemed kind of gross, while a 5, even up to 10 year gap between 25 and 35, not so much. or should you end your relationship and explore a relationship with the woman at work?’m an atheist that sees a lot of good things in the morality of religion, but not so much in how it seems to be practiced in the real world. i grew up in the same town as my grandparents and really appreciate that i was given the opportunity to know them so well." i was seriously thinking i was crazy because people were talking like i should feel lucky for having him and then come to find out, everyone thought he was a fucking psycho. now i certainly don’t mean to say that your chances at marriage are over if you don’t find someone before your 22nd birthday (far from that! inside i tend to look down my nose at most of western society, i just hide it rather well. spend most of my waking moments repressing and controlling my emotions.“i do not believe that most males would welcome this approach. jesus says in the bible, prostitutes and tax collectors — those on whom we look down our noses — are entering the kingdom of god before you and me. i’m familiar with the post and the concepts it espouses, and agree with them fully. me when i say that i have heard much worse things than that. she seemed out of control, on the verge of hitting a major wall..that may be pretty descriptive of the greek scene, but outside that scene i don’t think most girls date two guys and have have some romantic contact with two others in three weeks., i think they were able to run “carousel game”, or whatever it is called, and yet the attractive ones still eventually found *relatively* good-catch men (i. it’s damn near ideal imo, so yeah, great for me. looking for a ltr, but not really thinking about marriage)despite what the men were saying in the other thread, most early-20s guys are not in a rush to get married., for a ltr-individual, there’s no reason to remain in the “shopping” state. they had planned on getting married about 18 months after the engagement and that would still be 9 months after the baby was born. it felt wierd and scary, as though a man who was so much older was deliberately targeting me because he might have felt i was young and naive (vulnerable, but not in a good way) and not mature enough to negotiate a relationship with a man so much older and experiencedi had the same association – when the male writer suggested that we need rules and norms so that fathers don’t hit on their daughters’ friends. he’s also the one who broke into my apartment to leave a written apology while i was sleeping after we’d argued.@tasminsure an older man *may* have the ability to attract younger women, but this is because he has elevated himself above the majority of other men, younger and older – largely in spite of his age not merely because of it, and he must continue to work at it. today at a shawarma joint: four women in their early twenties talking about men. i love my job, as i said, but it’d be great to be excited to see someone on the weekends! question the applicability on a large scale, that doesn’t mean i don’t think it is superior. the thing is, my desire to be “fair” keeps my ego in check most of the time. goldload more comments (4 replies)load more comments (1 reply)[–]r0v 22 points23 points24 points 1 year ago (0 children)just put it in the washer and dryer for a few cycles and it will shrink right back down. locking him down at his physical peak is the optimal female strategy, as this takes him off the market before his full mmv has been realized, and also while he is closest to the female ideal of 3. you ever read the novel _memoir of a geisha_ or the memoir of mineko iwasaki?@sw“weird, for some reason i thought you were in your late 30s…”funny story, i’ve been getting that since i was 15. it makes sense – the whole idea of pair-bonding is coparenting, and an older dad just can’t offer the same level of energy. but the trends are alarming for those believing that marriage is good for society. i remember one week that i had dates with 3 separate men. i simply observed that ltrs do not necessarily imply any intention to marry, and they never did. the more protective the more violent the exorcism must be. i sometimes wonder, were i to be widowed, if i would find a new relationship. the second was awesome but decided to move to africa and gradually it died out on her side of things. if a guy is way older (say 40) he has to be well off financially or have some other game-changer for me to even consider him, if at all. as much as i dislike our government, indeed you are correct the “we the people” ultimately get screwed when the fed loses to jp. was not divorcing his mother, just keeping away from his son.@susanone quick point about dating older men is that the older men may not always want to date a younger woman. 😉 it was only when he was in my way at the door that i could tell that social interaction was not the most natural thing for him. she would thoughtfully steer me away from the known blueballs-artist girls who could not or would not put out. a certain point (pre-marrriage) loyalty is owed to the person your with. very small minority of men have a shot with gorgeous 25 year olds when they’re almost 50true.”oh i’m well aware of that, which is why at this point i think the only thing that will “save” us is a total collapse, but my fear is that in most cases the regime that replaces what was lost is rarely any better, and often much worse.“dude, how would you feel about your wife drunk-blogging and making graphic comments to young men?, the vast majority of my stalkers on okcupid as 29 are 20-24. is my theory:i have heard/read a lot about “killing one’s inner beta” (or “ugly girl”). last time we shared crazy stories desiderius lost his mind and has not been since since. the men who prioritize “hotter, younger, tighter” to the exclusion of those things will be more likely to go as low as possible. guess is that there are unrestricted men who have not had the opportunity to indulge their true sexual preferences – they look restricted but they are not. there’s a lot of benefits to gaming, especially the more social games such as wow and its predecessors. i had sex with them, but would consider a relationship with none of them.” it’s more like listening, asking questions, not judging, not invalidating feelings, and not advising.“in a comment, she clarifies that she’s against all birth control, not just condoms:“to several of you, the pull-out method does not fit with what i’m talking about … i’m talking about going back to au natural and trusting that whatever’s meant to happen pregnancy-wise will happen. bible also assumes that a man acquires a wife through intercourse. we can make out and i will probably start touching her. many days did you get up to before you had the hallucinations? can say that being aware of the “ovulation effect” for awhile now, i can see some subtle changes in her behavior though. women who want marriage and family aren’t looking at 32 year old slackersjust throwing it out there: gamers come in all shapes and sizes. you remember nothing else from these comments, please try and remember that., the engaged couple were very intelligent and they did 2 tours and spent a total of 5 years in west africa and came home really disappointed and disabused of the whole notion. (if there isn’t, well then, she’s probably fantasizing about sex with other men all month long.. was sort of it’s own geographic area, but then again, the farthest west i’ve ever been is colorado, so all my impressions of the west coast are taken from media images lol. 🙁 i just want to say if people are ever going through this, i hope they will post here to get support and a compassionate ear. i had sex with them, but would consider a relationship with none of them. (i kept rabbits in his barn and i'd visit when i went over to care for them ).